S3v3N
lolwut?
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Why contribute when you can just post random thoughts that have nothing to do with the topic?
Pure Genius
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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S3v3N wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Why contribute when you can just post random thoughts that have nothing to do with the topic?
Pure Genius
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suomalainen_äijä
Member
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big but so what
S3v3N
lolwut?
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For some really screwed up reason.. I kinda miss the Sandbox..
David.P
Banned
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m3thod wrote:

Right: Left.

Wrong: Right.

Betcha didn't see that one comming.
So what your saying is that nothing in DST is right? If Wrong = Right and Right = Left when simplified Wrong = Left.
Am i right?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7068|949

David.P wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Right: Left.

Wrong: Right.

Betcha didn't see that one comming.
So what your saying is that nothing in DST is right? If Wrong = Right and Right = Left when simplified Wrong = Left.
Am i right?
Actually I think the use of a semicolon means it is a ratio.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7107|UK

David.P wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Right: Left.

Wrong: Right.

Betcha didn't see that one comming.
So what your saying is that nothing in DST is right? If Wrong = Right and Right = Left when simplified Wrong = Left.
Am i right?
I was being a smartass by using the word 'right' in its moral, directional and political context.

And your attempt at simplicfication blows.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7126|Tampa Bay Florida

m3thod wrote:

David.P wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Right: Left.

Wrong: Right.

Betcha didn't see that one comming.
So what your saying is that nothing in DST is right? If Wrong = Right and Right = Left when simplified Wrong = Left.
Am i right?
I was being a smartass by using the word 'right' in its moral, directional and political context.

And your attempt at simplicfication blows.
^ This is the kind of shit I'm talking about (not just methods post, but davids as well)

Basically, when you can't win an argument, give the person you're debating some bait to start a fight with and make it look like they started it.  Works everytime.
usmarine
Banned
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Win?  There is never a win.  Hence teh debate.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7126|Tampa Bay Florida

usmarine2005 wrote:

Win?  There is never a win.  Hence teh debate.
You know what I meant.. when you run out of things to say, whatever. 

I guess you can never win a debate.  I could dispute the fact that the Earth is round and it'd be a debate.
CameronPoe
Member
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Spearhead wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Win?  There is never a win.  Hence teh debate.
You know what I meant.. when you run out of things to say, whatever. 

I guess you can never win a debate.  I could dispute the fact that the Earth is round and it'd be a debate.
You can only win a debate over something factual rather than opinion-based.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7126|Tampa Bay Florida

CameronPoe wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Win?  There is never a win.  Hence teh debate.
You know what I meant.. when you run out of things to say, whatever. 

I guess you can never win a debate.  I could dispute the fact that the Earth is round and it'd be a debate.
You can only win a debate over something factual rather than opinion-based.
But people describe their opinion as factual all the time... thats why we see more debate about facts, rather than real debate, on these forums.  If you cant support you argument with your own facts, just dispute the facts presented to you by the other side.

Last edited by Spearhead (2008-01-03 14:17:27)

usmarine
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But a lot of "facts" can be disputed also.
CameronPoe
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

But a lot of "facts" can be disputed also.
Well if it's a fact, by the very definition of the word fact, it cannot be disputed.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-01-03 15:25:51)

David.P
Banned
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m3thod wrote:

David.P wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Right: Left.

Wrong: Right.

Betcha didn't see that one comming.
So what your saying is that nothing in DST is right? If Wrong = Right and Right = Left when simplified Wrong = Left.
Am i right?
I was being a smartass by using the word 'right' in its moral, directional and political context.

And your attempt at simplicfication blows.
So your trolling?

Just trying to make it easier to read for some of your not so smart companions.
FatherTed
xD
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David.P wrote:

m3thod wrote:

David.P wrote:


So what your saying is that nothing in DST is right? If Wrong = Right and Right = Left when simplified Wrong = Left.
Am i right?
I was being a smartass by using the word 'right' in its moral, directional and political context.

And your attempt at simplicfication blows.
So your trolling?

Just trying to make it easier to read for some of your not so smart companions.
Still don't understand it.
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Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
usmarine
Banned
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

But a lot of "facts" can be disputed also.
Well if it's not a fact, by the very definition of the word fact, it cannot be disputed.
Name some.  Not physical stuff like the earth is round and that you have red hair.
CameronPoe
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

But a lot of "facts" can be disputed also.
Well if it's not a fact, by the very definition of the word fact, it cannot be disputed.
Name some.  Not physical stuff like the earth is round and that you have red hair.
You mean you want me to present a 'fact' that is based on my opinion? That sir would not be a fact, that would be an opinion, as stated previously.

FACT: No scientific evidence exists to suggest the existence of a higher being.
Commie Killer
Member
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Well if it's not a fact, by the very definition of the word fact, it cannot be disputed.
Name some.  Not physical stuff like the earth is round and that you have red hair.
You mean you want me to present a 'fact' that is based on my opinion? That sir would not be a fact, that would be an opinion, as stated previously.

FACT: No scientific evidence exists to suggest the existence of a higher being.
No scientific evidence exists to disprove the theory that there is a higher being.

I am not religious.


A example of a so called "fact" would be the "facts" used in global warming, or to say that the Bush Admin was part of the WTC attack. Those things are only a fact in some minds. Hmm, this could be rather confusing.
CameronPoe
Member
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Commie Killer wrote:

No scientific evidence exists to disprove the theory that there is a higher being.

I am not religious.


A example of a so called "fact" would be the "facts" used in global warming, or to say that the Bush Admin was part of the WTC attack. Those things are only a fact in some minds. Hmm, this could be rather confusing.
No Commie Killer - they would not be facts. They would be unproven theories. You do know what a fact is don't you?

1 Knowledge or information based on real occurrences
2 Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-01-03 15:04:18)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion. Napoleon said history was a myth that everyone decided to believe.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
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I think we've got something good going here.
Commie Killer
Member
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CameronPoe wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:

No scientific evidence exists to disprove the theory that there is a higher being.

I am not religious.


A example of a so called "fact" would be the "facts" used in global warming, or to say that the Bush Admin was part of the WTC attack. Those things are only a fact in some minds. Hmm, this could be rather confusing.
No Commie Killer - they would not be facts. They would be unproven theories. You do know what a fact is don't you?

1 Knowledge or information based on real occurrences
2 Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed
Do you believe that the CIA blew up the WTC? Because some people claim to have the facts that say that the CIA did do it. Point is, people can make up facts too, often to support their opinions. If you wanna get philosophical, since people can debate facts, then in truth, everything would be a theory. Doesnt really work that way, because those people just come off as crack heads, but you get the general idea right?

Did you ever see the "Say something and Ill prove it wrong thread"? Title went something along those lines, guy who created the thread actually did damn good at disproving facts. He had a few hundred posts in there.  Many facts contradict each other unless you are exact on your statement.


I think we should leave this alone, taking it off topic, maybe Ill make a thread.
CameronPoe
Member
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Commie Killer wrote:

Do you believe that the CIA blew up the WTC? Because some people claim to have the facts that say that the CIA did do it. Point is, people can make up facts too, often to support their opinions. If you wanna get philosophical, since people can debate facts, then in truth, everything would be a theory. Doesnt really work that way, because those people just come off as crack heads, but you get the general idea right?
Well show me the facts then. I haven't seen any to suggest the CIA did it. It would be highly highly highly improbable given the risk of discovery for one. You still haven't got the difference between fact and theory.

Commie Killer wrote:

Did you ever see the "Say something and Ill prove it wrong thread"? Title went something along those lines, guy who created the thread actually did damn good at disproving facts. He had a few hundred posts in there.  Many facts contradict each other unless you are exact on your statement.

I think we should leave this alone, taking it off topic, maybe Ill make a thread.
I doubt what were posted were actual facts if they were able to be disproved.

It goes like this: someone posts an opinion and it gets refuted by a fact. Is there are no facts to refute the opinion then it just becomes an opinion/theory based tit-for-tat.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-01-03 15:36:54)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7126|Tampa Bay Florida

Commie Killer wrote:

It goes like this: someone posts an opinion and it gets refuted by a fact. Is there are no facts to refute the opinion then it just becomes an opinion/theory based tit-for-tat.
I think this stuff is actually relevant to the thread... I think its a huge problem we've got on DST.  EVERYONE does it at one time or another.

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