Your right, VGA sends analog signals, less this cable is some sort of specific item :\Zimmer wrote:
Exactly what I thought.r'Eeee wrote:
You sure VGA carries a digital signal? Last time, I checked. Both component and VGA are analog. HDMI and DVI are digital.topal63 wrote:
The signal transferred on the VGA-cable is a true digital signal.
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Yea, apparently I should have got the reciver with a 100000 + 1 connections..lol. I don't see VGA listed at onkyo.topal63 wrote:
Thats not VGA... thats a RS232 comm-port.Jenspm wrote:
Top-left?topal63 wrote:
I don't see a VGA port anywhere in pic. A bunch of HDMI's - but no VGA connector.
I'll live with HDMI. I'm keeping one cable going to my TV. I've got the whole one button sets up every activity I want to do going on. I can't be disturbed to rearrange everything .As you mention, the console can output 1080p resolution video over both VGA and HDMI. There may be very, very subtle differences depending on a consumer’s display, but we wouldn’t expect many people to notice.
An HD VGA cable is not the same as VGA.You sure VGA carries a digital signal? Last time, I checked. Both component and VGA are analog. HDMI and DVI are digital.
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Or have your receiver fix it.topal63 wrote:
The only to get HDMI out an Xbox-360 is to own an Xbox-360 elite.
Yeah, but if the source is not VGA or HDMI the image quality will be drastically lower. Garbage in garbage out.Kmarion wrote:
Or have your receiver fix it.topal63 wrote:
The only to get HDMI out an Xbox-360 is to own an Xbox-360 elite.
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wow, that remote is sweet.Kmarion wrote:
But if MS saysI'll live with HDMI. I'm keeping one cable going to my TV. I've got the whole one button sets up every activity I want to do going on. I can't be disturbed to rearrange everything .As you mention, the console can output 1080p resolution video over both VGA and HDMI. There may be very, very subtle differences depending on a consumer’s display, but we wouldn’t expect many people to notice.
Not true....Kmarion wrote:
The TV resolution wont lie. Currently I can 720p. There may be some loss in audio ( I can't tell), but 720p is 720p.
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Kerry (if I can call u that? lol) how pleased are you with that amplifer?Kmarion wrote:
The TV resolution wont lie. Currently I can 720p. There may be some loss in audio ( I can't tell), but 720p is 720p.
It's very easy to setup and work. Just plug it into your computer and tell it what you have. It can even be an Xbox controller..lol. It dims my lights, turns on my TV, changes my reciver to Blu-ray, and selects my preferred listening mode all in one touch.Jenspm wrote:
wow, that remote is sweet.Kmarion wrote:
But if MS saysI'll live with HDMI. I'm keeping one cable going to my TV. I've got the whole one button sets up every activity I want to do going on. I can't be disturbed to rearrange everything .As you mention, the console can output 1080p resolution video over both VGA and HDMI. There may be very, very subtle differences depending on a consumer’s display, but we wouldn’t expect many people to notice.
Is it hard to get it to work? Will it work as a remote for sound, DVD and TV channels as well?
because atm I use 4 Remotes on 1 TV:
- Actual TV
- DVD
- Sound System
- TV Channels
Putting them together into 1 would be sweet.
I love it, Ultra 2 certified . It runs hot and it is pretty heavy (65 lbs?), but it is pure awesomeness. I am fixing the heat by building my own cooling behind it. I am also running the other zones outside and in my other rooms. Weekend projects are fun.Bell wrote:
Kerry (if I can call u that? lol) how pleased are you with that amplifer?Kmarion wrote:
The TV resolution wont lie. Currently I can 720p. There may be some loss in audio ( I can't tell), but 720p is 720p.
Martyn
720p is a measurement.. that's like saying a mile isn't a mile. Not everyone has a receiver to upscale, that's why they make it.topal63 wrote:
Not true....Kmarion wrote:
The TV resolution wont lie. Currently I can 720p. There may be some loss in audio ( I can't tell), but 720p is 720p.
720p - 3-component signal... is not near the quality of:
720p - via HDMI.
or
720p - via VGA.
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Why do you think they make a special VGA cable for the Xbox-360? Just for the hell of it? It is because the image quality is that much better. I have both cables... and would never use the Xbox 3-component to output 720p (it sucks in compassion to the quality I get from the VGA cable).
Which model is it? Got a Yamaha RX-V3800 myself and it's given up the ghost after 6 months :\Kmarion wrote:
I love it, Ultra 2 certified . It runs hot and it is pretty heavy (65 lbs?), but it is pure awesomeness. I am fixing the heat by building my own cooling behind it. I am also running the other zones outside and in my other rooms. Weekend projects are fun.Bell wrote:
Kerry (if I can call u that? lol) how pleased are you with that amplifer?Kmarion wrote:
The TV resolution wont lie. Currently I can 720p. There may be some loss in audio ( I can't tell), but 720p is 720p.
Martyn
It's all here.Bell wrote:
Which model is it? Got a Yamaha RX-V3800 myself and it's given up the ghost after 6 months :\Kmarion wrote:
I love it, Ultra 2 certified . It runs hot and it is pretty heavy (65 lbs?), but it is pure awesomeness. I am fixing the heat by building my own cooling behind it. I am also running the other zones outside and in my other rooms. Weekend projects are fun.Bell wrote:
Kerry (if I can call u that? lol) how pleased are you with that amplifer?
Martyn
Martyn
The point is moot anyways... I am getting a 1080p HDTV. And connecting via the HDMI.XBOX-360 (original)
VGA:
* HD DVD - 1080p resolution and all others
* DVD - Upscaled as high as 1080p resolution and all others
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games in the future
Component:
* HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
* DVD - Upscaled to 480p maximum, limited by CSS
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games in the future
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An E-opinion, I found...Composite sucks (non hd)
S-Video (same as composite, but sharper - makes a pretty noticable difference - non HD)
Component (way better, and allows HD -- doesn't do DVD upscaling)
VGA (Sharper then component, but duller colors -- allows DVD scaling)
HDMI (the best aspects of VGA and Component, in one. Also allows the TV to detect on/off)
If found this part to be same as my general experience (with the VGA cable on the original Xbox-360):Kmarion wrote:
I'll try it anyways. I have a 32 inch Bravia as well. I hooked my laptop up to it using my laptops HDMI. I never used the PC in. I'll try my 360 on it.
I set the Xbox-360 (in-settings); to expanded; then turned the color-up a bit on the HDTV.... VGA (Sharper then component, but duller colors -- allows DVD scaling) ...
... from what i have read and my personal experience - VGA on most cases looks better on LCD's and Monitors. It all depends on the TV. For Plasmas - component looked better in my experience. HDMI looks better than all. Best advise is to try it out for yourself. different people will give you different opinions.
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I have a 8800gts 640MB version and I run almost everything at 1920X1200 the native resolution of my 24" lcd (dell 2407fpw) so to run stuff on an lcd tv that only has a resolution of 1920X1080 should be a piece of cake..... unless you mean crysis... which is a whole different discussion.ghettoperson wrote:
Yes, if you're playing games that are 3 years old.elbekko wrote:
An 8800GT should easily pump out 1920x1800.
That Crysis bitch is definitely... on the discussion table.dalmar72 wrote:
I have a 8800gts 640MB version and I run almost everything at 1920X1200 the native resolution of my 24" lcd (dell 2407fpw) so to run stuff on an lcd tv that only has a resolution of 1920X1080 should be a piece of cake..... unless you mean crysis... which is a whole different discussion.ghettoperson wrote:
Yes, if you're playing games that are 3 years old.elbekko wrote:
An 8800GT should easily pump out 1920x1800.
no no no no no NO NO NO NO NO!Zimmer wrote:
Also, Topal, 120Hz is not noticeable by the naked eye. Max difference you will see is about 75Hz. Anything above that is a minimal change. The claims that sony make don't make the TV better, it just allows them to put a larger price tag on it.
Well, see, that kind of reply.... Instead of shouting out pointless "no"s at me. You could care to explain.Lucien wrote:
no no no no no NO NO NO NO NO!Zimmer wrote:
Also, Topal, 120Hz is not noticeable by the naked eye. Max difference you will see is about 75Hz. Anything above that is a minimal change. The claims that sony make don't make the TV better, it just allows them to put a larger price tag on it.
not even the mods can get this right?
Or you could be wright. I just don't know? The newer Samsung and Sony Bravia XBR LCD 1080p HDTVs have a lot of image processing capability... the image tweaking with the settings (& cinemotion, motionflow, autmotion, etc) could result in either:elbekko wrote:
I have a feeling the 120Hz is because of the frame interpolation. 60Hz each.
But I might be very wrong on that.
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