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2008-01-10 02:48:13
Mr.Dooomed
Find your center.
+752|6763

I noticed this the other day and it got me intrigued; I find it amazing how our hearing has an effect so greatly on how we speak. If you aren't familiar with what I'm talking about take deaf people as an example. Ever notice how they can talk, but their speech is a little well, off? Its not articulated as much and its kinda numb sounding in a way.

It's just interesting how our own hearing gives us a better ability to speak. I guess words are all in how they are pronounced, and not being able to hear how a word is pronounced makes it just almost impossible to say correctly aloud don't you think?

As an experiment:

Put in ear plugs, and then put ON ear muffs and record yourself reading an unfamiliar text out load then play it back to yourself when your done! Seems like an interesting thing to do, but as I type this its 4 a.m and I can't sleep so I'm in no mood to test this out myself!
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2008-01-10 02:51:07
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6815|MN
I doubt it would have too much effect.  You have learned to speak with the variations missing in deaf people over time.  You may talk louder, but the inflections in your speach should still be there I think. 

I would try it, but I am at work!
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2008-01-10 02:59:21
PureFodder
Member
+225|6720
There's a fun experiment I've seen where you put some great big headphones on someone then get them to count into a microphone. A computer then takes the signal, delays it by about 0.3 seconds then plays it back to the person through the headphones. They hear themselves saying a different number to the one that they are trying to say and their brain then tries to say the next number after the one they heared themself say. The results go something like 0ne, two , three, three, wtf!.

Your auditory feedback system is a very powerful force over your speach acts.
2008-01-10 03:03:57
Fredrik
i hate you all
+201|7084|Norway

PureFodder wrote:

There's a fun experiment I've seen where you put some great big headphones on someone then get them to count into a microphone. A computer then takes the signal, delays it by about 0.3 seconds then plays it back to the person through the headphones. They hear themselves saying a different number to the one that they are trying to say and their brain then tries to say the next number after the one they heared themself say. The results go something like 0ne, two , three, three, wtf!.

Your auditory feedback system is a very powerful force over your speach acts.
Friend of mine has some sort of sound card bug: Whenever he presses the "talk" button on VT or TS, i hear myself with about 0.5s delay. Totally disturbing, i cant even complete a sentence without freaking out.
2008-01-10 03:25:14
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6565|North Tonawanda, NY

Im_Dooomed wrote:

As an experiment:

Put in ear plugs, and then put ON ear muffs and record yourself reading an unfamiliar text out load then play it back to yourself when your done! Seems like an interesting thing to do, but as I type this its 4 a.m and I can't sleep so I'm in no mood to test this out myself!
You will still hear yourself because of internal sound wave propagation, so that might not work.  Besides, you already know how to form the requisite sounds.

But as for the topic at hand, I live in Rochester, NY which has one of the largest deaf populations in the country.  It can really throw you off when the cashier is deaf and you don't know, but its alright in general.  The only thing that gets me is how deaf people sign to their passengers while driving...that can't be a good idea.  Anyway, yes, deaf people sound weird when they talk.  But they don't have a whole lifetime of hearing/learning how to form sounds correctly.  It takes a lot of practice and training to allow a deaf person to speak.

Edit: People that go deaf after learning how to talk can usually continue to talk just fine.  They already know how to talk.

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2008-01-10 04:02:19
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7177|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
the crazy thing is not only does it effect speech, but it also effects a persons balance..
2008-01-10 04:09:03
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6990

IG-Calibre wrote:

the crazy thing is not only does it effect speech, but it also effects a persons balance..
Yep - I burst my eardrum from an inoccuous punch during kickboxing sparring (the glove acted like a plunger, sucking my eardrum out and bursting it) and my balance just completely gave way. I had no idea what happened or why such a light punch floored me!
2008-01-10 04:12:35
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6565|North Tonawanda, NY

CameronPoe wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

the crazy thing is not only does it effect speech, but it also effects a persons balance..
Yep - I burst my eardrum from an inoccuous punch during kickboxing sparring (the glove acted like a plunger, sucking my eardrum out and bursting it) and my balance just completely gave way. I had no idea what happened or why such a light punch floored me!
Yep, I burst my ear drum once (due to a bad infection).  It sucked. 

But about the balance thing:  I know your inner ear has a LOT to do with balance.  But I didn't know that people who are deaf have balance problems.  Is that mostly people who are born deaf?  Or become deaf due to inner ear damage?  I would imagine the latter.
2008-01-10 04:15:30
kajukenbo_kid
Member
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CameronPoe wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

the crazy thing is not only does it effect speech, but it also effects a persons balance..
Yep - I burst my eardrum from an inoccuous punch during kickboxing sparring (the glove acted like a plunger, sucking my eardrum out and bursting it) and my balance just completely gave way. I had no idea what happened or why such a light punch floored me!
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2008-01-10 04:32:13
PureFodder
Member
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SenorToenails wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

the crazy thing is not only does it effect speech, but it also effects a persons balance..
Yep - I burst my eardrum from an inoccuous punch during kickboxing sparring (the glove acted like a plunger, sucking my eardrum out and bursting it) and my balance just completely gave way. I had no idea what happened or why such a light punch floored me!
Yep, I burst my ear drum once (due to a bad infection).  It sucked. 

But about the balance thing:  I know your inner ear has a LOT to do with balance.  But I didn't know that people who are deaf have balance problems.  Is that mostly people who are born deaf?  Or become deaf due to inner ear damage?  I would imagine the latter.
If I remember correctly your inner ear has a fluid in it that acts to amplify the sound waves around. The fluid is also used as a sort of spirit level thing to tell you which way up your head is. I guess it depends on the cause of deafness as to whether or not it causes balance issues.
2008-01-10 04:54:20
CameronPoe
Member
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PureFodder wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Yep - I burst my eardrum from an inoccuous punch during kickboxing sparring (the glove acted like a plunger, sucking my eardrum out and bursting it) and my balance just completely gave way. I had no idea what happened or why such a light punch floored me!
Yep, I burst my ear drum once (due to a bad infection).  It sucked. 

But about the balance thing:  I know your inner ear has a LOT to do with balance.  But I didn't know that people who are deaf have balance problems.  Is that mostly people who are born deaf?  Or become deaf due to inner ear damage?  I would imagine the latter.
If I remember correctly your inner ear has a fluid in it that acts to amplify the sound waves around. The fluid is also used as a sort of spirit level thing to tell you which way up your head is. I guess it depends on the cause of deafness as to whether or not it causes balance issues.
I think the balance thing is more to do with the air pressure in your aural-nasal network.
2008-01-10 05:16:50
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7119|United States of America
The following is paraphrased and copied from my psychology book-

There are two types of deafness, conduction (which involves the hammer, anvil, and stirrup bones in the middle ear), which can be helped by using a hearing aid and/or replacing the bones with plastic. The other type is when either the auditory nerve or the hair cells attached to the basilar membrane inside the cochlea of the inner ear are damaged, resulting in nerve deafness. The nerve cells deteriorate with age, so that's why old people can't hear well, but they can also be damaged by loud noises and exposure to that. Although there are some artificial cochlear implants that are possible to be used in order to restrimulate the auditory nerve.
The balance aspect has a lot to do with the vestibular sense and its organs, the two vestibular sacs and three semicircular canals in the inner ear. The fluid-filled sacs contain small crystals called otoliths that rest on the hair endings. The semicircular canals have hairs that are immersed in the fluid of the canals. When the head moves, the otoliths shift in the vestibular sacs and the fluid moves in the semicircular cnals, stimulating all those hair endings. So on and so forth neuron activation down auditory nerve to the brain. When you get dizzy as on a roller coaster or from spinning your head on a bat, it's due to this fluid moving around faster than your brain can recognize where it is.

 

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