FloppY_
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+1,010|6565|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

I have 32 bit XP 2005 Media Centre Edition and 4 gig of RAM its odd cuz i hear all the stuff about it reading 2.5-2.5.... but mine reads 3.8 GB of the 4GB.. anyone got an explaination?
I dunno, but Mediacenter = win
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CrazeD
Member
+368|6952|Maine

FloppY_ wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Varegg wrote:


Those links are inconclusive seing as many socalled expert states both that it can and that it can't ...

How about a SS from a 32 bit OS that recognizes 4GB ?
I posted those links to show that his problem is a common one with Mac Book Pro owners and more than 2GB of RAM.

It can theoretically support 4GB of RAM.  That has been said many times.  But other devices can usurp some of the address space that would go to the higher numbers of RAM.  Physical Address Extension can allow more than 4GB of RAM to be addressed.

http://www.demandtech.com/PAE-enabled.bmp
Nice job sending your windows CD key around
That's not the Windows CD Key...

And SenorToenails, your math is wrong because 1bit != 1byte.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6565|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:


I posted those links to show that his problem is a common one with Mac Book Pro owners and more than 2GB of RAM.

It can theoretically support 4GB of RAM.  That has been said many times.  But other devices can usurp some of the address space that would go to the higher numbers of RAM.  Physical Address Extension can allow more than 4GB of RAM to be addressed.

http://www.demandtech.com/PAE-enabled.bmp
Nice job sending your windows CD key around
That's not the Windows CD Key...

And SenorToenails, your math is wrong because 1bit != 1byte.
Wrong..... 8bit = 1byte
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CrazeD
Member
+368|6952|Maine

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:


Nice job sending your windows CD key around
That's not the Windows CD Key...

And SenorToenails, your math is wrong because 1bit != 1byte.
Wrong..... 8bit = 1byte
I said 1bit != 1byte.

Sorry, too much coding syntax. I'll make it english:

1bit NOT EQUAL TO 1byte.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6565|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

That's not the Windows CD Key...

And SenorToenails, your math is wrong because 1bit != 1byte.
Wrong..... 8bit = 1byte
I said 1bit != 1byte.

Sorry, too much coding syntax. I'll make it english:

1bit NOT EQUAL TO 1byte.
Oh i c.... please keep it simple for us "non-1337" people ok?
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jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

screw bytes, gimme nibbles
BlackKoala
Member
+215|6605

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:


Wrong..... 8bit = 1byte
I said 1bit != 1byte.

Sorry, too much coding syntax. I'll make it english:

1bit NOT EQUAL TO 1byte.
Oh i c.... please keep it simple for us "non-1337" people ok?
I thought it was common knowledge that any variation of:  !=,  =!,  =/=,  =\= meant not equal to?
FloppY_
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+1,010|6565|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

jsnipy wrote:

screw bytes, gimme nibbles
https://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/FearMeIAmLag/notlolwutpearuw5.jpg


BlackKoala wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

I said 1bit != 1byte.

Sorry, too much coding syntax. I'll make it english:

1bit NOT EQUAL TO 1byte.
Oh i c.... please keep it simple for us "non-1337" people ok?
I thought it was common knowledge that any variation of:  !=,  =!,  =/=,  =\= meant not equal to?
Apparently not

Last edited by FloppY_ (2008-01-16 07:03:06)

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jsnipy
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+3,277|6802|...

BlackKoala wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:


I said 1bit != 1byte.

Sorry, too much coding syntax. I'll make it english:

1bit NOT EQUAL TO 1byte.
Oh i c.... please keep it simple for us "non-1337" people ok?
I thought it was common knowledge that any variation of:  !=,  =!,  =/=,  =\= meant not equal to?
so what would:

1bit | 1byte

... be
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7015|Salt Lake City

assau1t wrote:

so how about dual channel??
Dual channel is not effected.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6929

FloppY_ wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

screw bytes, gimme nibbles
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195 … earuw5.jpg
4 bits = 1 nibble

1/2 byte = 1 nibble
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7015|Salt Lake City

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

I have 32 bit XP 2005 Media Centre Edition and 4 gig of RAM its odd cuz i hear all the stuff about it reading 2.5-2.5.... but mine reads 3.8 GB of the 4GB.. anyone got an explaination?
How much of the RAM will appear depends on your hardware.  How much of the address space that is used for hardware, and thus reduced from available system usage, depends on your hardware.  If you have a video card with 256MB of RAM Vs. 512MB, then you will have more available system RAM because you have to map less video memory.  That is also why SLI/Crossfire users get hit the hardest.  Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that video memory is the only thing that uses this address space, because all of your hardware gets mapped this way.  I was just using it as an example.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6477|Winland

Sure it's not the graphics card or EFI (Or something) BIOS fucking up?

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-01-16 08:08:02)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
assau1t
Member
+12|6983|sector a-35

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

assau1t wrote:

so how about dual channel??
Dual channel is not effected.
Thank you, kind sir!
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6410|North Tonawanda, NY

CrazeD wrote:

And SenorToenails, your math is wrong because 1bit != 1byte.
Good lord.  I never equated them.  Not once.

2^32 is the largest integer that be represented by 32 bits.  Then, that integer represents the largest number of bytes that can be addressed by that system.
topal63
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+533|6998

SenorToenails wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

And SenorToenails, your math is wrong because 1bit != 1byte.
Good lord.  I never equated them.  Not once.

2^32 is the largest integer that be represented by 32 bits.  Then, that integer represents the largest number of bytes that can be addressed by that system.
Yep, you are correct again...

Hasn't this already been explained (over explained)? 2^32 (4GB) is the max. available mappable memory space (in bytes). Subtract the memory space used by hardware and whats left over will be anywhere between 2GB and 3.5GB (depending on hardware installations).

TIP: So, if you get a 32bit OS don't bother installing (or upgrade to) more than 2GB or 3GB.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-01-17 10:44:25)

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