HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6396|Washington DC
My mom just got into a fender bender... she was definitely to blame (I was there with her) and both she and the other guy accept that. The car on the receiving end didn't take much damage (he was in a big old SUV full-stop at a traffic light, we accidentally accelerated and hit him) but my mom's car has the front grille busted in and a bit of the hood is damaged, it'll probably need to be replaced.

The dilemma is, if she reports it to Geico then they'll either bust her insurance rates even more through the roof than they are now, or she'll get das boot all together. We're not exactly rich so we can't handle that, but repairing her car without Geico paying for it is also gonna be expensive.

Does anyone have advice on what to do?
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|7062|UK
First thing I would do would be to get a quote to see how much it's gonna cost to fix the car.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6396|Washington DC

liquidat0r wrote:

First thing I would do would be to get a quote to see how much it's gonna cost to fix the car.
She's about to go get a quote from the repair shop
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7032|Seattle

I'd be willing to bet it will work out in her favor to go through insurance. They usually don't raise the rates that much after a fender bender.
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IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7177|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
dunno how insurance works in the states but here there is 3rd party and then there is fully comprehensive.. 3rd party means they won't pay to fix your mum's vehicle, fully comp they will.. my opinion is - no point in paying for insurance and not using it when you have an accident..
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6880|The Land of Scott Walker
Would've been best to file a police report.  Many insurance companies won't address a claim without an accident report.  That being said I agree with Downy here.  I have a clean driving record and had a minor accident and my rates didn't go up at all.
Lambykin
Member
+4|6396

HurricaИe wrote:

My mom just got into a fender bender... she was definitely to blame (I was there with her) and both she and the other guy accept that. The car on the receiving end didn't take much damage (he was in a big old SUV full-stop at a traffic light, we accidentally accelerated and hit him) but my mom's car has the front grille busted in and a bit of the hood is damaged, it'll probably need to be replaced.

The dilemma is, if she reports it to Geico then they'll either bust her insurance rates even more through the roof than they are now, or she'll get das boot all together. We're not exactly rich so we can't handle that, but repairing her car without Geico paying for it is also gonna be expensive.

Does anyone have advice on what to do?
This doesn't sound like her first wreck. Insurance is a big scam anyway - even people who have their first accident where the insurance forgives you, depending on the situation, you could still be left with paying the (high) deductible.

You, unfortunately, are stuck. The cheapest way out of this is to repair the vehicle on your own by not going through insurance. By law, you should be reporting the accident to the insurance company. However, thousands every day don't do this. By reporting this particular case, not only do you still pay for your repairs, but you'll have a hefty premium to pay afterwards for eternity.

Reason to report accident to insurance: What if they other guy reports the accident to HIS insurance company? Undoubtedly he has much of your information, including plate #. He simply needs to hand this to his insurance company, and they WILL find you. Next thing you know, YOUR insurance company will be calling you, and it won't be pretty from that point on. While it still won't be in your favour to be reporting the accident, you insurance company will be more likely to listen if you report it.

Reason to not report accident: It's gonna to get very expensive. You CAN settle this on your own without your insurance company (or his) ever knowing. You need to approach this from the stand-point that you're at fault, and the other driver has a right to get several quotes for repair. Cost of auto repairs will be expensive. Accept responsibility, and allow the other driver to have the vehicle repaired where HE wishes to have it repaired. While nothing will be cheap, just keep in the back of your head it could have cost you thousands more for a very long period of time. Take your lumps, be a good citizen, and all can be well.

How good are you mechanically? If you didn't bend any structural parts, and it's just cosmetic damage to your own vehicle such as a punched out grill and headlights, you might be able to repair this yourself for very cheap. You can visit some of the wrecking yards local to you, pull the parts you will need, and install them on your car. Again, this is only if nothing major has been bent (a front body panel isn't major, but the frame it's bolted to is). You can save plenty of money by doing this (provided you possess some mechanical skill).

My advice would be to take care of the other driver first - if you piss him off, not only will you be dealing with high insurance rates, but you'll be going to court, too, where you will lose (you already admitted guilt, and if you choose to stiff him now, it only will get worse for you).

I can't tell you WHAT to do one way or the other. Dealing outside of insurance is a no-no, but many do it usually because of financial restraints. I understand this, but if you cut your own deals outside of insurance, you are on your own. You even risk your insurance company terminating your insurance if they discover your actions. Assuming you choose settling on your own, everything will work out if you keep the other driver happy. If you're afraid that he might screw you around, well, this is why we have insurance.

The "right" thing to do is report the accident to your insurance company ASAP. You will be protected if you do this, even though the costs in the end will be greater. Sometimes it's worth it just so you don't get potentially shafted down the road. Good luck, you don't face an easy decision.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7078
I use Progressive
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6396|Washington DC
The driver of the other vehicle apparently seemed very amiable, and I think my mom offered to cover the damages (tbh it was just some scuffed paint). Yes, it's not her first accident

GS: Progressive is even more expensive than Geico in DC, and doesn't your insurance history transfer with you?
GunSlinger OIF II
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+1,860|7078

HurricaИe wrote:

The driver of the other vehicle apparently seemed very amiable, and I think my mom offered to cover the damages (tbh it was just some scuffed paint). Yes, it's not her first accident

GS: Progressive is even more expensive than Geico in DC, and doesn't your insurance history transfer with you?
yup.  geico was more expensive for me.
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|7066|Finland

Wait for the other guy to get a quotation for the paint job also. It might be quite expensive.
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Dersmikner
Member
+147|6933|Texas
These days it doesn't matter whether she reports it or not, they're going to find out. There's a system called CLUE, Claims Liability Underwriters' Estimate system that tracks shit like police reports, damage estimates from body shops, etc., to determine your rate. It's a suck deal, and it should be illegal, but it isn't. If she goes into a place that does repairs for insurance companies, even one that's not hers, they're going to put her in their system and it's going to get back to her insurance carrier. Big Brother is watching.
HurricaИe
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+877|6396|Washington DC

Dersmikner wrote:

These days it doesn't matter whether she reports it or not, they're going to find out. There's a system called CLUE, Claims Liability Underwriters' Estimate system that tracks shit like police reports, damage estimates from body shops, etc., to determine your rate. It's a suck deal, and it should be illegal, but it isn't. If she goes into a place that does repairs for insurance companies, even one that's not hers, they're going to put her in their system and it's going to get back to her insurance carrier. Big Brother is watching.
Why would they even do that wouldn't the insurance company prefer keeping the $3000 (yes $3000) that would be spent on the repairs?
Marlboroman82
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+1,022|7058|Camp XRay

Report it, if you don't and the person files a lawsuit( they have up to a yr to file), the company can deny coverage because you failed to report the claim in a timely manner. You can report the claim, but choose not have the insurance pay for it. Trust me it is better to file the claim and play a little more now then be screwed later if it goes to court.
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ig
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+1,199|6957
just ride around with it wrecked. who cares what other people think of your car. mine got keyed, i backed in to a tree in my driveway, and there are plenty more scratches/dents on the body. doesn't bother me one bit.
Varegg
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+2,206|7245|Nårvei

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Report it, if you don't and the person files a lawsuit( they have up to a yr to file), the company can deny coverage because you failed to report the claim in a timely manner. You can report the claim, but choose not have the insurance pay for it. Trust me it is better to file the claim and play a little more now then be screwed later if it goes to court.
Thats how it works in Norway also, always report first - then decide later if you will use the insurance to cover the bill or take care of it yourself ...
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6396|Washington DC
The problem is that apparently my mom is on her last string with this insurance company, she's nervous that they'll cut her from their plan if she has another accident on her file.

Yeah, I know, drive carefully etc. but the past is done
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6933|Texas

HurricaИe wrote:

Dersmikner wrote:

These days it doesn't matter whether she reports it or not, they're going to find out. There's a system called CLUE, Claims Liability Underwriters' Estimate system that tracks shit like police reports, damage estimates from body shops, etc., to determine your rate. It's a suck deal, and it should be illegal, but it isn't. If she goes into a place that does repairs for insurance companies, even one that's not hers, they're going to put her in their system and it's going to get back to her insurance carrier. Big Brother is watching.
Why would they even do that wouldn't the insurance company prefer keeping the $3000 (yes $3000) that would be spent on the repairs?
They aren't gonna PAY you, they're simply going to RAISE YOUR RATES. They KNOW that you have had an accident now, irrespective of whether or not you report it, and they're going to say that you are a greater risk.

You misunderstood. They don't find out that you had a wreck and then force a settlement on you. They find out you had a wreck, pay you nothing since you didn't file a claim, and raise your rates. It happened to me in 2003. My truck got broken into and I didn't report it because the window was only 200 and the shit was about 300 and if I'd claimed it the deductible was 500 and I didn't want my rates to go up, but the CLUE system picked it up from a police report and they raised my insurance because I was a risk. Fuckers.
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6974|byah
go to the local junk yard and replace the parts.

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