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Which is the most humane method of execution?

Lethal Injection	44%	44% - 54
Hanging	7%	7% - 9
Firing Squad	21%	21% - 26
Electrocution	5%	5% - 7
Lethal Gas e.g. hydrogen cyanide	5%	5% - 7
Hypoxia through the use of nitrogen	14%	14% - 18
Total: 121

2008-01-16 09:30:15

Dragonclaw: Member; +186|6739|Florida

Balok77 wrote:
an eye for an eye and we would all be blind

killing is never justifiable

Wrong. Its liberal hippie bullshit like this that lets the criminals have fun times in prison off our tax dollars.

Shot to the head with a .50 execution style. No pain there and it only costs one bullet. Lethal injection costs thousands. Why waste thousands on a piece of shit who doesnt need to live?

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2008-01-16 09:34:54

Vilham: Say wat!?; +580|7200|UK

Personally I would want a bullet to the back of my head.

2008-01-16 09:37:06

Ajax_the_Great1: Dropped on request; +206|7081

Balok77 wrote:
an eye for an eye and we would all be blind

killing is never justifiable

I really wish people would stop using that damn expression.

Don't take an eye if you don't want to lose yours. How bout that?

2008-01-16 09:37:37

jord: Member; +2,382|7112|The North, beyond the wall.

Executioners managed before and I'm sure they could manage again. Pistol to the back of the head.

Also, I imagine waiting for your death to be pretty scary. All these courts assing about with this "humane" shit. It's pretty obvious they're not going to change the death penalty anytime soon, why give a dead man hope...

2008-01-16 09:45:42

RoosterCantrell: Goodbye :); +399|6914|Somewhere else

S3v3N wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
"humane killing"

lol
Tell me about it.

Why should we be humane to somebody that murdered a whole family then ate them (hypothetical)

The whole noble people thing. We shouldn't stopp to thier level, THEY are the criminals. not the government that executes them, supposedly.

But as Gunslinger said, there really is no way killing someone could be humane. But, a serial child rapist + murderer, is just better off dead.

I'm kinda a fan of "Escape from New York". Give the criminals a shitty island, let them sort it out. They'll either get rid of eachother for us, or start a country and call it Australia 2.

2008-01-16 10:06:29

David.P: Banned; +649|6708

Firing squad! No wait you said most humane? Hmm... I dunno lol.

2008-01-16 10:32:00

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6904

Before I watched the BBC Documentary I would have been inclined to vote for a firing squad / headshot...

Yet, after some consideration, you have to consider the human implications of this form of capital punishment; for a start actually employing an executioner to be entrusted with this grim task is a bit much to ask. I don't think there's any way that you could 'hire' an official to go around shooting prisoners in the head... that would have serious long-term mental implications (in my opinion, not medically confirmed).

Hypoxia seemed perfect, or at least the way it was presented on the documentary made it seem so. But, I'm a little skeptical. I'm sure there are some negatives and cons with this method- nothing in science is purely black and white, there's got to be some complication or some hidden cost somewhere that doesn't make it as viable. Not only that, but hypoxia actually raises the moral debate of "Should they feel pain when executed?" Killing humanely is one thing... but to 'let off' a serial killer with a desirable and euphoric death... maybe allowing them a little too much luxury. By the way, I think that the centrifugal / force-related hypoxia was a brilliant way to kill somebody- wheeee! .

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2008-01-16 10:49:55

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6541|Birmingham, UK

I hate people who think death penalties should be so humane the muderers and such should die painlessly, i voted electric chair, they know what they were doing, and if you mudered someone, you shouldn't have a painless/very humane death, yes, the death penalty should be civilised, im not saying we should burn at the stake or anything, but, what sort of method is humane?

Because doctors can't give the injection, the security guards do it, and they can miss causing a longer death, we should keep it as it is, i hate it when people think they should die painlessly, because if the murdered someone brutally or was a mass-muderer or something, they made many people suffer, not just the victims, so they just can't have an easy death.

If people think its in-humane or un-civilised, its not, and they can cry about it, but, if they were a member of a family of a victim of murder, they wouldn't be saying stop the death penalty, let alone make it an easy death, here in the UK we have prisons so crowded every day people are being released early, we don't have the death penalty, and mass-murderers and going down for life, taking up space that could be filled by a lesser criminal, this may sound in-humane, but its the truth, and its what should happen.

I don't want the death penalty to be abused either, it should stay, and the people who cry about it being in-humane should stop, it happens, always has, and always will do, what did the criminals do to deserve an easy death anyway? They may have seen the error of their ways, probably not, but even if they did, they shouldn't have commited a crime, but they did, and are being punished for it.

2008-01-16 10:56:17

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7078

the closest to humane killing would be an expedient incarceration

2008-01-16 13:38:23

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|7119|United States of America

For my AP Government class, I argued somewhat of this point in a mock trial of a current case on the Supreme Court docket (and that had an oral argument heard not too long ago), Baze & Bowling v. Rees. If anyone is interested, I can post my opening statement that deals with why lethal injection is not cruel and unusual (the grounds upon which the method was challenged in the aforementioned case).

I found that a lot of people aren't very informed about executions and don't know the pain that can be experienced in all these types.

2008-01-16 13:49:49

IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6925|Northern California

Stingray24 wrote:
Pardon me if I have no sympathy for a killer feeling pain ... sounds like the nitrogen method would be the most humane.

I'm against the death penalty, but if you're going to kill a convict, why does cruelness or unusual need to be considered in the method? The killing of said bad guy is already cruel and unusual (maybe not unusual), what difference does it make if he's shot through or suffocated? The last moments are going to suck, that's the point.

My vote, if I were for the death penalty, is to be taken to the mountain top, have your family, peers, victims, judge, jury, etc with you to record your confession (if any) and hear your condemnation...and then get beheaded and thrown from the cliff to your death.

ok, that was fun...now to be serious...

A good way to go (imagining myself as the condemned) would be to not know the method...and have someone blow my head in two with a shot gun from behind. Done, dead, over...and clean up.

2008-01-16 13:57:51

Balok77: Member; +28|6582

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Balok77 wrote:
an eye for an eye and we would all be blind

killing is never justifiable
I really wish people would stop using that damn expression.

Don't take an eye if you don't want to lose yours. How bout that?

How are we different from the killer if we just murder them????

Its a fucking useful expression for people who think they should be able to kill someone.

Anyway to be honest i don think the death penalty is the right way of going about dealing with criminals. Leave them to rot in solitary confinement where they will have to deal with the consequences of their actions, not just put to death which doesn't teach them anything at all.

A lifetime trapped in a cell or 5 minutes of pain....which is worse???

2008-01-16 13:59:06

topal63: . . .; +533|7152

Being chased off the edge of a cliff by a bunch of rollerblading nymphos. Very humane indeed.

2008-01-16 14:01:21

Skorpy-chan: Member; +127|6779|Twyford, UK

Same way they kill livestock; bolt to the brain, destroy the bit that controls awareness.

2008-01-16 14:05:51

Dragonclaw: Member; +186|6739|Florida

Balok77 wrote:
Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Balok77 wrote:
an eye for an eye and we would all be blind

killing is never justifiable
I really wish people would stop using that damn expression.

Don't take an eye if you don't want to lose yours. How bout that?
How are we different from the killer if we just murder them????

Its a fucking useful expression for people who think they should be able to kill someone.

Anyway to be honest i don think the death penalty is the right way of going about dealing with criminals. Leave them to rot in solitary confinement where they will have to deal with the consequences of their actions, not just put to death which doesn't teach them anything at all.

A lifetime trapped in a cell or 5 minutes of pain....which is worse???

You stupid hippies cant comprehend it can you. Which is worse? Execution of the murderer? Or 1000 in taxpayer money every day for a lifetime? How are we different from the killer if we MURDER them? Theres a difference between murdering, and execution for justice. You obviously dont know one from the other. How does life in prison living happily off taxpayer money, doing drugs, and killing people while in prison teach them anything more than executing them? Do you really have any idea what goes on in most prisons? Get a clue. The death penalty is needed for severe crimes. We arent not punishing the criminal if we throw him in prison for life where he will have the time of his life with his fellow inmates.

2008-01-16 14:10:24

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,991|7066|949

How about something like an industrial grade compactor where the sides and top and bottom all come in until there is no space left - stick the subject (person, animal, alien, ghost, whatever) in the middle and when you push the button all the walls collapse and instantly smash the subject.

It could work, right?

2008-01-16 14:11:46

adam1503: Member; +85|6822|Manchester, UK

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
How about something like an industrial grade compactor where the sides and top and bottom all come in until there is no space left - stick the subject (person, animal, alien, ghost, whatever) in the middle and when you push the button all the walls collapse and instantly smash the subject.

It could work, right?

Hopefully it would work better than this

https://bulgaria.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/1/trash_compactor.jpg

2008-01-16 14:12:52

some_random_panda: Flamesuit essential; +454|6825

Hypoxia. But because they ARE criminals, how about tasering them for about 10 seconds 3 times while they're dying from the nitrogen?

Last edited by some_random_panda (2008-01-16 14:14:53)

2008-01-16 14:13:20

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|7119|United States of America

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
How about something like an industrial grade compactor where the sides and top and bottom all come in until there is no space left - stick the subject (person, animal, alien, ghost, whatever) in the middle and when you push the button all the walls collapse and instantly smash the subject.

It could work, right?

*WTFSMOOOSCSH*

There appear to be only a two approaches to make an execution humane: speed and amount of pain.

2008-01-16 14:16:45

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6902

Guillotine. Seriously, absolutely zero pain.

2008-01-16 14:17:54

adam1503: Member; +85|6822|Manchester, UK

DoctaStrangelove wrote:
Guillotine. Seriously, absolutely zero pain.

Nope. The head can live on for several minutes after being severed from the body. I imagine it would sting a little...

2008-01-16 14:18:18

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,991|7066|949

I never thought lethal injection was humane really, because they just give you chemicals that paralyze you, stopping you from showing any discomfort.

2008-01-16 14:19:35

PspRpg-7: -; +961|7132

Balok77 wrote:
an eye for an eye and we would all be blind

killing is never justifiable

So I guess we'll just incarcerate him for life and let him drain our tax money. Or release him back into society so he can kill again.

2008-01-16 14:20:26

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,072|7206|PNW

Gladiatorial arena.

2008-01-16 14:20:44

UK|Hooligan: Seriously, fuck off.; +103|7122|"The Empire"

I see stoning to death was not an option, that would of been my choice.

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