NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6954

Roger Lesboules wrote:

XxRavenxX wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:


Violence is violence, Killing in Manhunt is for fun, the same way you kill for fun in every other game, we dont care if the dev put a whole month putting flesh around the bone just for us to "justify" the violence. If we have to cleanse this forum of violence, lets rename it, Hippy2s.com.

Cant stand violence, dont freaking surf on a board dedicated to a Violent game.
there is  a difference between violence and execution.
Execution = What? Violence.  Because stabbing some 1 while he is laying on the ground (Cod4 last stand) is any better?....Blowing someone to smittereens with C4 is any better? No, as i stated before, Violence is violence, live with it! Cant stand violence, go browse another forum.
Though there actually is a plot in CoD4...
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
RavyGravy
Son.
+617|6891|NSW, Australia

Roger Lesboules wrote:

XxRavenxX wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:


Violence is violence, Killing in Manhunt is for fun, the same way you kill for fun in every other game, we dont care if the dev put a whole month putting flesh around the bone just for us to "justify" the violence. If we have to cleanse this forum of violence, lets rename it, Hippy2s.com.

Cant stand violence, dont freaking surf on a board dedicated to a Violent game.
there is  a difference between violence and execution.
Execution = What? Violence.  Because stabbing some 1 while he is laying on the ground (Cod4 last stand) is any better?....Blowing someone to smittereens with C4 is any better? No, as i stated before, Violence is violence, live with it! Cant stand violence, go browse another forum.
Well here's the problem with 'Last stand', hes still waving a gun around shooting at you where as execution is cold blood murder where the victim is defenceless, and C4 well sorry buddy those people are at war and they have every right to blow the fuck out of each other where execution is still cold blooded MURDER.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7106|London, England
Manhunt and Manhunt 2 actually have proper plots and the senseless killing is infact justified, Manhunt 2 (not played it yet) probably has a deeper plot even.
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6954

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Manhunt and Manhunt 2 actually have proper plots and the senseless killing is infact justified, Manhunt 2 (not played it yet) probably has a deeper plot even.
So what is this great plot?
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|7063|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

NooBesT wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:

XxRavenxX wrote:


there is  a difference between violence and execution.
Execution = What? Violence.  Because stabbing some 1 while he is laying on the ground (Cod4 last stand) is any better?....Blowing someone to smittereens with C4 is any better? No, as i stated before, Violence is violence, live with it! Cant stand violence, go browse another forum.
Though there actually is a plot in CoD4...
Yup, there is a plot, (Nice one too) but it still violence.

@adam1503: Yeah i know what you mean, but what i dont get is why those who dont like the game just dont try refrain from going into these exact thread bitching about how THEY dont like it.

Dont like a game fine, but let people who do like it, enjoy it. I mean, i dont go around in EVERY WoW forum/Thread i can find just to ruin those people fun because I dont like it.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7023|Long Island, New York

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Manhunt and Manhunt 2 actually have proper plots and the senseless killing is infact justified, Manhunt 2 (not played it yet) probably has a deeper plot even.
Exactly. To say Manhunt is just killing is like that ridiculous debate they had on Fox News about Mass Effect.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7106|London, England

NooBesT wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Manhunt and Manhunt 2 actually have proper plots and the senseless killing is infact justified, Manhunt 2 (not played it yet) probably has a deeper plot even.
So what is this great plot?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunt_%2 … me%29#Plot
adam1503
Member
+85|6873|Manchester, UK

Roger Lesboules wrote:

@adam1503: Yeah i know what you mean, but what i dont get is why those who dont like the game just dont try refrain from going into these exact thread bitching about how THEY dont like it.

Dont like a game fine, but let people who do like it, enjoy it. I mean, i dont go around in EVERY WoW forum/Thread i can find just to ruin those people fun because I dont like it.
Nobody is protesting against your right to play the game, nor is anyone preventing you from doing so.  We are protesting against people posting videos containing content which most people would find abhorrent, and to which kids who browse these forums shouldnt be exposed.  There is a line, and while I think that for kids of 12 or 13 to be allowed to play games like BF2 and COD4 is close to that line, Manhunt crosses it.

NeXuS4909 wrote:

I dont get it when people say "My child or any other child may not be old enough to see what they are watching." In my opinion they know damn well what they are watching. When i was little and when you guys were little you knew what death and killing was. Kid's aren't as stupid as you people make them out to be. It's like 15 year old kids knowing more about sex than their 40 year old parents. There's my opinion.
Kids might be aware that what they are seeing is violence, but what they often dont understand is the reason for why this kind of thing is wrong in real life.  Exposing them to videos as violent as Manhunt de-sensitizes them to the content, whereas most adults have a clearly defined sense of right and wrong which allows them to consume things like this without any detrimental effect.

Last edited by adam1503 (2008-01-25 16:27:28)

Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6949|meh-land
the 'evil' part of video game is not from witnessing violence but from the satisfaction derived from killing a helpless being

so really there is no difference between executions and just playing cod4 and purposely knifing someone who is not looking at you

psychologically...
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6954

Poseidon wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Manhunt and Manhunt 2 actually have proper plots and the senseless killing is infact justified, Manhunt 2 (not played it yet) probably has a deeper plot even.
Exactly. To say Manhunt is just killing is like that ridiculous debate they had on Fox News about Mass Effect.
Yes. Manhunt does have a plot, so does all other video games to come out in recent years. Never played manhunt so I don't know the specifics of it but its not random killing. In pretty much every video-game with a story the developers try to make you dislike the bad guys so you feel your killing of them is justified. Half-Life 2 is a very good example of this, before you can fight the Combine you see them beating up random people. As for the Mass Effect thing, you didn't just say "yeah let's fuck", you had to get the other character to fall in love with you before you could get it on. Also people are not as retarded as they may seem, everyone can tell the difference between video games and RL.
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|7195|Germany

Roger Lesboules wrote:

NooBesT wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:


Execution = What? Violence.  Because stabbing some 1 while he is laying on the ground (Cod4 last stand) is any better?....Blowing someone to smittereens with C4 is any better? No, as i stated before, Violence is violence, live with it! Cant stand violence, go browse another forum.
Though there actually is a plot in CoD4...
Yup, there is a plot, (Nice one too) but it still violence.

@adam1503: Yeah i know what you mean, but what i dont get is why those who dont like the game just dont try refrain from going into these exact thread bitching about how THEY dont like it.

Dont like a game fine, but let people who do like it, enjoy it. I mean, i dont go around in EVERY WoW forum/Thread i can find just to ruin those people fun because I dont like it.
I guess you missed the beginning/cause of the whole discussion. Maybe catch up on that.
I´m not spoiling the "game fun" for anyone here, I really could care less, what you guys do at home.

Anyway, I have a feeling it´s pretty pointless to take this any further.
I guess there is no way of crossing that "age bridge" for both parties.
Good night.
kptk92
u
+972|6894|tc_london

SamTheMan:D wrote:

what a fag
<BoTM>J_Aero
Qualified Expert
+62|6951|Melbourne - Home of Football

HellHead wrote:

There is a difference. I follow your string about this forum and yes it´s a about a war game and yes it´s about killing people but I never saw a BF2 video containing somebody chopping somebody elses head off.
Get my point ?
"Killing" is not "killing".

And I don´t want flowers and candy in here just a certain amount of decent attitude.
But like I said before. It´s probably (no offence) a difference in age why we are discussing this right now.
I definitely agree with you here, in fact this could be it's own DS&T thread. Though it could easily be argued that the end result of someone's death will be the same, 'killing' is not just 'killing', in any context, it comes in many forms, from compassionate acts of mercy, to insane acts of jealousy, and righteous acts of vengeance.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7295|Nårvei

Roger Lesboules wrote:

@adam1503: Yeah i know what you mean, but what i dont get is why those who dont like the game just dont try refrain from going into these exact thread bitching about how THEY dont like it.
We usually don't do that, but we are bitching in this thread about it seing as that was the intention of this particular thread.

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Dont like a game fine, but let people who do like it, enjoy it. I mean, i dont go around in EVERY WoW forum/Thread i can find just to ruin those people fun because I dont like it.
If you enjoy it please do, i have nothing against that at all ...  if the same clip was posted on a forum with lets say a 16 - 18 year age limit i wouldn't react ... this forum is modded with 13 year olds in mind and it will continue to be so until the owner says otherwise - actually nothing you can do about it but watch those videos elsewhere ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7106|London, England
I suppose we should all reign in our swearing habits than, including Chuy. Who swears quite abit.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6447|Washington DC

Mek-Izzle wrote:

I suppose we should all reign in our swearing habits than, including Chuy. Who swears quite abit.
fuck shit piss cunt asshole faggot motherfucker cocksucker shit-eater

I'll take my AWM for swearing now. God forbid the children hear such sacrilegious words!
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7295|Nårvei

HurricaИe wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

I suppose we should all reign in our swearing habits than, including Chuy. Who swears quite abit.
fuck shit piss cunt asshole faggot motherfucker cocksucker shit-eater

I'll take my AWM for swearing now. God forbid the children hear such sacrilegious words!
You are so freakin awsm some times, witch way are you planning the N next time ?
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6809|New Haven, CT

HurricaИe wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

I suppose we should all reign in our swearing habits than, including Chuy. Who swears quite abit.
fuck shit piss cunt asshole faggot motherfucker cocksucker shit-eater

I'll take my AWM for swearing now. God forbid the children hear such sacrilegious words!
Wut du thoz meen?
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6447|Washington DC

Varegg wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

I suppose we should all reign in our swearing habits than, including Chuy. Who swears quite abit.
fuck shit piss cunt asshole faggot motherfucker cocksucker shit-eater

I'll take my AWM for swearing now. God forbid the children hear such sacrilegious words!
You are so freakin awsm some times, witch way are you planning the N next time ?
ǝuɐɔıɹɹnɥ
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7295|Nårvei

HurricaИe wrote:

Varegg wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


fuck shit piss cunt asshole faggot motherfucker cocksucker shit-eater

I'll take my AWM for swearing now. God forbid the children hear such sacrilegious words!
You are so freakin awsm some times, witch way are you planning the N next time ?
ǝuɐɔıɹɹnɥ
Figures
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
adam1503
Member
+85|6873|Manchester, UK

Mek-Izzle wrote:

I suppose we should all reign in our swearing habits than, including Chuy. Who swears quite abit.
Swearing is common today.  Being able to simulate mudrers as brutally as Manhunt does is not, and is something that should be restricted.
Goven
/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿
+125|6966|Purdue

adam1503 wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:

@adam1503: Yeah i know what you mean, but what i dont get is why those who dont like the game just dont try refrain from going into these exact thread bitching about how THEY dont like it.

Dont like a game fine, but let people who do like it, enjoy it. I mean, i dont go around in EVERY WoW forum/Thread i can find just to ruin those people fun because I dont like it.
Nobody is protesting against your right to play the game, nor is anyone preventing you from doing so.  We are protesting against people posting videos containing content which most people would find abhorrent, and to which kids who browse these forums shouldnt be exposed.  There is a line, and while I think that for kids of 12 or 13 to be allowed to play games like BF2 and COD4 is close to that line, Manhunt crosses it.

NeXuS4909 wrote:

I dont get it when people say "My child or any other child may not be old enough to see what they are watching." In my opinion they know damn well what they are watching. When i was little and when you guys were little you knew what death and killing was. Kid's aren't as stupid as you people make them out to be. It's like 15 year old kids knowing more about sex than their 40 year old parents. There's my opinion.
Kids might be aware that what they are seeing is violence, but what they often dont understand is the reason for why this kind of thing is wrong in real life.  Exposing them to videos as violent as Manhunt de-sensitizes them to the content, whereas most adults have a clearly defined sense of right and wrong which allows them to consume things like this without any detrimental effect.
Sure, maybe younger kids might not understand it, but kids 13 above...come on. I grew up playing violent games and watching "scarry/horror" movies and there's nothing wrong with me. My parents made sure to point out to me what is right and wrong, and they made sure I listened.
Nappy
Apprentice
+151|6715|NSW, Australia

bring back expliccit videos
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6809|New Haven, CT

Goven wrote:

adam1503 wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:

@adam1503: Yeah i know what you mean, but what i dont get is why those who dont like the game just dont try refrain from going into these exact thread bitching about how THEY dont like it.

Dont like a game fine, but let people who do like it, enjoy it. I mean, i dont go around in EVERY WoW forum/Thread i can find just to ruin those people fun because I dont like it.
Nobody is protesting against your right to play the game, nor is anyone preventing you from doing so.  We are protesting against people posting videos containing content which most people would find abhorrent, and to which kids who browse these forums shouldnt be exposed.  There is a line, and while I think that for kids of 12 or 13 to be allowed to play games like BF2 and COD4 is close to that line, Manhunt crosses it.

NeXuS4909 wrote:

I dont get it when people say "My child or any other child may not be old enough to see what they are watching." In my opinion they know damn well what they are watching. When i was little and when you guys were little you knew what death and killing was. Kid's aren't as stupid as you people make them out to be. It's like 15 year old kids knowing more about sex than their 40 year old parents. There's my opinion.
Kids might be aware that what they are seeing is violence, but what they often dont understand is the reason for why this kind of thing is wrong in real life.  Exposing them to videos as violent as Manhunt de-sensitizes them to the content, whereas most adults have a clearly defined sense of right and wrong which allows them to consume things like this without any detrimental effect.
Sure, maybe younger kids might not understand it, but kids 13 above...come on. I grew up playing violent games and watching "scarry/horror" movies and there's nothing wrong with me. My parents made sure to point out to me what is right and wrong, and they made sure I listened.
Are kids parents watching them constantly while they are perusing bf2s?

Nappy wrote:

bring back expliccit videos
Enjoy.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-25 22:43:12)

..teddy..jimmy
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Urgh.

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