I happened to watch V for Vendetta again the other night and was amazed yet again how close our country is like to that Orwellian fabricated UK (obviously realizing the movie is meant to depict the US pattern of degrading rights), and then I read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/13/washi … om.html?hp
"The president effectively gave the House a deadline to act, since the current authority to intercept telephone conversations or electronic communications expires at midnight on Saturday.
“There is no reason why Republicans and Democrats in the House cannot pass the bill immediately,” he said in comments made at the White House, adding that the failure to do so “will jeopardize the security of our citizens.”
The president’s remarks came the morning after the Senate handed the White House a major victory by voting to broaden the government’s spy powers and to give legal protection to phone companies that cooperated in President Bush’s program of eavesdropping without warrants."
Amazingly, I can still be astonished and baffled at the things this wicked, wicked, asbackwards man can do, and reading this I was yet again astonished at the audacity with which he tramples the Constitution beneath his feet. I can imagine the various inaugural speeches and swearing in of some of our past and current presidents, and then I read this stuff and see the blatant, shameless, pathetic destruction of those oaths made.
And Clinton was impeached for lying about his personal life....
Bush is putting us back into the stone-age, and he freely struts around like the redneck chickenhawk cowboy coward he is with no more than little Dennis Kucinich threatening to submit articles of impeachment to congress...but not really...
Right now, our communications are compromised. Today, yesterday, and tomorrow, you can count on not having privacy. You can count on your domestic and international calls being monitored. And it's because ATT and probably other telco's can freely (with total immunity) go about doing the NSA's bidding and spy on Americans! Read that again..."ATT...(with total immunity) [can] go about..and spy on Americans!
Yes, yes, I know, I know...it's "ONLY DONE" to calls made outside the country in or inside out...and it's only to catch "the terrorists." And if you believe that, you seriously need a wake up call. First of all, it's not even that productive. The baddies are ALREADY here, IF there even is some planning going on. And if there's planning going on for another disaster, it's obvious the baddies know about it and will, like their master OBL, will not be using ma bell to complete those calls. They won't post on myspace their plans, and they won't be emailing each other over their blackberries. So who then are they spying on? You don't control a country with fear and lies if you're not afraid of it. This is not a new concept and it's in full bloom here in "#1 USA!"
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
Discuss.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/13/washi … om.html?hp
"The president effectively gave the House a deadline to act, since the current authority to intercept telephone conversations or electronic communications expires at midnight on Saturday.
“There is no reason why Republicans and Democrats in the House cannot pass the bill immediately,” he said in comments made at the White House, adding that the failure to do so “will jeopardize the security of our citizens.”
The president’s remarks came the morning after the Senate handed the White House a major victory by voting to broaden the government’s spy powers and to give legal protection to phone companies that cooperated in President Bush’s program of eavesdropping without warrants."
Amazingly, I can still be astonished and baffled at the things this wicked, wicked, asbackwards man can do, and reading this I was yet again astonished at the audacity with which he tramples the Constitution beneath his feet. I can imagine the various inaugural speeches and swearing in of some of our past and current presidents, and then I read this stuff and see the blatant, shameless, pathetic destruction of those oaths made.
And Clinton was impeached for lying about his personal life....
Bush is putting us back into the stone-age, and he freely struts around like the redneck chickenhawk cowboy coward he is with no more than little Dennis Kucinich threatening to submit articles of impeachment to congress...but not really...
Right now, our communications are compromised. Today, yesterday, and tomorrow, you can count on not having privacy. You can count on your domestic and international calls being monitored. And it's because ATT and probably other telco's can freely (with total immunity) go about doing the NSA's bidding and spy on Americans! Read that again..."ATT...(with total immunity) [can] go about..and spy on Americans!
Yes, yes, I know, I know...it's "ONLY DONE" to calls made outside the country in or inside out...and it's only to catch "the terrorists." And if you believe that, you seriously need a wake up call. First of all, it's not even that productive. The baddies are ALREADY here, IF there even is some planning going on. And if there's planning going on for another disaster, it's obvious the baddies know about it and will, like their master OBL, will not be using ma bell to complete those calls. They won't post on myspace their plans, and they won't be emailing each other over their blackberries. So who then are they spying on? You don't control a country with fear and lies if you're not afraid of it. This is not a new concept and it's in full bloom here in "#1 USA!"
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
Discuss.
Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-02-13 13:52:48)