Exactly. Because it's a cult / business and you need to give a lot of money. Yet the IRS gave them the same benefits than any serious Religion.SenorToenails wrote:
Only the rich can afford Scientology.sergeriver wrote:
Tell me again how Scientology is not significantly influencing the US. I mean my God, even the rich are selling out to Scientology.
Yep. Pretty shitty.sergeriver wrote:
Exactly. Because it's a cult / business and you need to give a lot of money. Yet the IRS gave them the same benefits than any serious Religion.
But I don't think there is a lot of Scientology influence in most people's lives.
I know, as there's no significant Islam influence in Euros lives.SenorToenails wrote:
Yep. Pretty shitty.sergeriver wrote:
Exactly. Because it's a cult / business and you need to give a lot of money. Yet the IRS gave them the same benefits than any serious Religion.
But I don't think there is a lot of Scientology influence in most people's lives.
Germany doesn't count Scientology as a religion, unlike the US. Plus it is on a monitored organisations list (along with neo-Nazis) and considered a cult.David.P wrote:
Because people here in the US have the balls to stand up to it. Unlike in Europe where the few that do are given death threats and branded as racists.
There really is no difference in the way Islam and Scientology operate.
That's my type of approach to those fruit cakes.
Scientology? It's like Amway sales reps mated with Branch Davidians.
How as that the point of the OP? There is no mention of Islam in it at all.sergeriver wrote:
I know, as there's no significant Islam influence in Euros lives.
This was obviously directed at Lowing's Eurabia thread BS.SenorToenails wrote:
How as that the point of the OP? There is no mention of Islam in it at all.sergeriver wrote:
I know, as there's no significant Islam influence in Euros lives.
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my opinion: scientology is FUCKING dangerous. the state security service here in germany is investigating against them.
it's like a evil, all-consuming cult.
it's like a evil, all-consuming cult.
I see.sergeriver wrote:
This was obviously directed to Lowing's Eurabia thread BS.
well, who said you weren't ?David.P wrote:
Riiiiiiiiiiight... And i'm a normal well adjusted member of society.sergeriver wrote:
The point is Europe is not selling out to Islam and the US is not selling out to Scientology either.David.P wrote:
Because people here in the US have the balls to stand up to it. Unlike in Europe where the few that do are given death threats and branded as racists.
There really is no difference in the way Islam and Scientology operate.
and btw, Scientology is not reckognized as a religion in germany, and is under supervision by federal authorities.
from the wikipedia article:
"The federal government of Germany, as well as its states, have to a greater or lesser degree and for varying periods since 1997 placed Scientology and Scientologists under surveillance by its intelligence agency based on anti-democratic tendencies.[192] No criminal or civil charges have been brought as a result of this surveillance. On a Federal level, Scientology lost a complaint against continued surveillance by the federal Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz because the court gave its opinion that there are indications that Scientology is pursuing anti-constitutional activities. As of April 2007 the case was pending in appeal."
the appeal has since been thrown out by the court.
to be honest, David, it seems Europe has much more balls when it comes to standing up to Scientology than the US.
What is Scientology doing that is sooo bad? They take advantage of the stupid and sue people. How is that different from any other large money making organization?B.Schuss wrote:
to be honest, David, it seems Europe has much more balls when it comes to standing up to Scientology than the US.
I guess I must have missed something...
well, the difference is that they claim to be a religion and deny the obvious fact that they're in for the money. I'd have no problem with them if they admitted to that. But they are taking advantage of people who are looking for spirituality.SenorToenails wrote:
What is Scientology doing that is sooo bad? They take advantage of the stupid and sue people. How is that different from any other large money making organization?B.Schuss wrote:
to be honest, David, it seems Europe has much more balls when it comes to standing up to Scientology than the US.
I guess I must have missed something...
Also, they're undemocratic and their "auditing" methods are highly questionable from a psychiatry point of view.
Google "Operation Snow White" if you want, that's a good start.
In short, it's a power-hungry cult with fascist tendecies, looking to take over the planet.
Like here it's obviously illegal, but you can't deny that it doesn't happen over there too.Havok wrote:
The US has Sharia courts? Proof?TheEternalPessimist wrote:
You have them too you know.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... I just think the U.K. needs to end all Sharia courts. No country without a Muslim majority should have Sharia courts. Now, if a Muslim-majority nation wants one, that's ok.
Sharia arbitration isn't illegal there or here.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Like here it's obviously illegal, but you can't deny that it doesn't happen over there too.Havok wrote:
The US has Sharia courts? Proof?TheEternalPessimist wrote:
You have them too you know.
Scientology, like every other religion, is a business whose main function is to make money and wield power and influence over the community. The only difference between Scientology and any other religion is it's just plain weird. L. Ron Hubbard formed his "church" to reap the tax benefits, nothing more nothing less.
Why is this thread open? It is beyond obvious.
lulzGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
oh yeah, you dont criticize the US all the time.
http://www.scientology-buenosaires.org/
So you're saying a Sharia court isn't illegal in the UK or the US?TheEternalPessimist wrote:
Sharia arbitration isn't illegal there or here.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Like here it's obviously illegal, but you can't deny that it doesn't happen over there too.Havok wrote:
The US has Sharia courts? Proof?
This is news to me, I'm sure there is some law saying you can't do shit like that. Not specifically Sharia but you get what I'm trying to say right.
you just named every religion...B.Schuss wrote:
well, the difference is that they claim to be a religion and deny the obvious fact that they're in for the money. I'd have no problem with them if they admitted to that. But they are taking advantage of people who are looking for spirituality.SenorToenails wrote:
What is Scientology doing that is sooo bad? They take advantage of the stupid and sue people. How is that different from any other large money making organization?B.Schuss wrote:
to be honest, David, it seems Europe has much more balls when it comes to standing up to Scientology than the US.
I guess I must have missed something...
Also, they're undemocratic and their "auditing" methods are highly questionable from a psychiatry point of view.
Google "Operation Snow White" if you want, that's a good start.
In short, it's a power-hungry cult with fascist tendecies, looking to take over the planet.
and this thread is fucking retarded. we are talking about celebs here. they are fucking out of touch idiots to begin with.
Jack Nicholson vouches for Hillary Clinton. That doesn't mean I don't respect his acting skills.
Besides which, if it came down to war, pan-galactic Mormon faith would steamroll Scientologists and Xenu.
Besides which, if it came down to war, pan-galactic Mormon faith would steamroll Scientologists and Xenu.
No. If people want an opt-in system of arbitration for civil matters, they are more than free to do so (as far as I know). Criminal cases have no place being settled in those courts. That's not implying that any criminal cases are, but I am just clarifying the point made by TheEternalPessimist.Mek-Izzle wrote:
So you're saying a Sharia court isn't illegal in the UK or the US?TheEternalPessimist wrote:
Sharia arbitration isn't illegal there or here.
This is news to me, I'm sure there is some law saying you can't do shit like that. Not specifically Sharia but you get what I'm trying to say right.
Thanks for the link, I know these fuckers are here too. And this wasn't a US bashing, this was a Lowing-like thread. Kinda you can't say Islam is invading Europe as you can't say Scientology is invading the US, sadly you missed the point.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
oh yeah, you dont criticize the US all the time.
http://www.scientology-buenosaires.org/
The IRS gave Scientology the same benefits than any other religion, and it obviously isn't a Religion but a cult.usmarine wrote:
you just named every religion...B.Schuss wrote:
well, the difference is that they claim to be a religion and deny the obvious fact that they're in for the money. I'd have no problem with them if they admitted to that. But they are taking advantage of people who are looking for spirituality.SenorToenails wrote:
What is Scientology doing that is sooo bad? They take advantage of the stupid and sue people. How is that different from any other large money making organization?
I guess I must have missed something...
Also, they're undemocratic and their "auditing" methods are highly questionable from a psychiatry point of view.
Google "Operation Snow White" if you want, that's a good start.
In short, it's a power-hungry cult with fascist tendecies, looking to take over the planet.
and this thread is fucking retarded. we are talking about celebs here. they are fucking out of touch idiots to begin with.
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What makes it a cult?sergeriver wrote:
The IRS gave Scientology the same benefits than any other religion, and it obviously isn't a Religion but a cult.
I dunno, maybe a bunch of assholes following a nutjob leader (watch the videos). This can't be considered a Religion, not yet. Maybe all Religions started as a cult. In fact, Scientology is not even a cult, but a business.SenorToenails wrote:
What makes it a cult?sergeriver wrote:
The IRS gave Scientology the same benefits than any other religion, and it obviously isn't a Religion but a cult.