GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7067
stop trolling my posts, please.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

so far all youve done is call me a troll, asshole, know it all and youve insulted my daughter. 

I honestly dont think anyone with children will start slinging insults at others people children on a BF2 forum.
Show me where the fuck I insulted your daughter.  I think you are a troll, a know it all and an asshole.  I never insulted your daughter.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

SenorToenails wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Don't twist my words.  You can believe in whatever you like to.  You can create your own cult, but it won't be a Religion.  And don't call Scientology a Religion, because it is not one.
What do you consider the dividing line between cult and religion?
A Religion has a set of beliefs that works as a guide for people in a good way, even if they are a fairy tale.  A cult hasn't.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

sergeriver wrote:

A Religion has a set of beliefs that works as a guide for people in a good way, even if they are a fairy tale.  A cult hasn't.
And how is Scientology not that?  It even has the fairy tale part.  People in it seem to think it helps, so what's the problem?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7067

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Like the kid in the photo you posted making fun of him or special as in All I say is ok and most of you are morons or 99% of you are dumb?
no more like kid.    But you sure as shit aint in the 1%.   Again though, its sad that you think Im making fun of the kid when I call you a retard.
I don't care if you call me a retard, but posting a picture of a special kid to call me a retard is sad.  You are an asshole.  You should be a better person being a father.  I feel sorry for your daughter.
any negative reference about me from you involving my daughter is a god damn insult.  Anyone with children would have a half a brain cell to recognize that.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

SenorToenails wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

A Religion has a set of beliefs that works as a guide for people in a good way, even if they are a fairy tale.  A cult hasn't.
And how is Scientology not that?  It even has the fairy tale part.  People in it seem to think it helps, so what's the problem?
Yes, it helps to evade taxes.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

sergeriver wrote:

Yes, it helps to evade taxes.
Or sexually abuse little boys?

Give me a real reason.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:


no more like kid.    But you sure as shit aint in the 1%.   Again though, its sad that you think Im making fun of the kid when I call you a retard.
I don't care if you call me a retard, but posting a picture of a special kid to call me a retard is sad.  You are an asshole.  You should be a better person being a father.  I feel sorry for your daughter.
any negative reference about me from you involving my daughter is a god damn insult.  Anyone with children would have a half a brain cell to recognize that.
In fact, I feel sorry for her for you being her daddy.  That's not an insult to her you dumbfuck.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

SenorToenails wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Yes, it helps to evade taxes.
Or sexually abuse little boys?

Give me a real reason.
All priests don't do that.  Pls.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7067
just....wow.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

sergeriver wrote:

All priests don't do that.  Pls.
And everyone in Scientology evades taxes? 

OK.  So if people in a religion evade taxes, that religion might be a cult?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

just....wow.
That coming from the same asshole who used the picture of a special kid just to insult a person in an internet forum.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina
The tax evasion thing is actually an interesting point.

See, I don't understand why we let ANY religion have tax exempt status.  Just because your business involves a belief in a god or gods, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to tax whatever applies at your business.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

Both of you guys need to chill, I won't say it again. This isn't kindergarten and I don't care where it started. Just stay away from each other.


The next time it will be permanent.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:

The tax evasion thing is actually an interesting point.

See, I don't understand why we let ANY religion have tax exempt status.  Just because your business involves a belief in a god or gods, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to tax whatever applies at your business.
And it doesn't make it a cult.  I would like serge to give a reason why he thinks Scientology is a cult.  Or at least, why it should not be considered a religion.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7067

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

just....wow.
That coming from the same asshole who used the picture of a special kid just to insult a person in an internet forum.
I lol'ed
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The tax evasion thing is actually an interesting point.

See, I don't understand why we let ANY religion have tax exempt status.  Just because your business involves a belief in a god or gods, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to tax whatever applies at your business.
And it doesn't make it a cult.  I would like serge to give a reason why he thinks Scientology is a cult.  Or at least, why it should not be considered a religion.
Fair enough, but do you agree with me on the tax thing?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

Turquoise wrote:

The tax evasion thing is actually an interesting point.

See, I don't understand why we let ANY religion have tax exempt status.  Just because your business involves a belief in a god or gods, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to tax whatever applies at your business.
Agreed.  My point is Scientology wanted to be recognized as Religion just to evade taxes, that's all I say.  They don't have a set of beliefs that are a guide to people in their daily lives.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:

Fair enough, but do you agree with me on the tax thing?
Yes and no.  Religious organizations do a lot charity, and operate on a lot of donations.  That means they usually aren't floating in cash.  The tax exemptions help them afford to keep the church and fund various good works.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Fair enough, but do you agree with me on the tax thing?
Yes and no.  Religious organizations do a lot charity, and operate on a lot of donations.  That means they usually aren't floating in cash.  The tax exemptions help them afford to keep the church and fund various good works.
It also provides a lot of opportunities for tax evasion though.  Why not explicitly limit the tax exemption to charities?  You can have a religious charity and you can have a church, but the charity is the only part that should receive the tax exemption.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

sergeriver wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The tax evasion thing is actually an interesting point.

See, I don't understand why we let ANY religion have tax exempt status.  Just because your business involves a belief in a god or gods, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to tax whatever applies at your business.
Agreed.  My point is Scientology wanted to be recognized as Religion just to evade taxes, that's all I say.  They don't have a set of beliefs that are a guide to people in their daily lives.
The Way to Happiness?

They do have a set of ethics and morals.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:

It also provides a lot of opportunities for tax evasion though.  Why not explicitly limit the tax exemption to charities?  You can have a religious charity and you can have a church, but the charity is the only part that should receive the tax exemption.
I would support a rewrite of the tax laws involving churches and charities, yes.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7181|Argentina

SenorToenails wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The tax evasion thing is actually an interesting point.

See, I don't understand why we let ANY religion have tax exempt status.  Just because your business involves a belief in a god or gods, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to tax whatever applies at your business.
Agreed.  My point is Scientology wanted to be recognized as Religion just to evade taxes, that's all I say.  They don't have a set of beliefs that are a guide to people in their daily lives.
The Way to Happiness?

They do have a set of ethics and morals.
No, they don't, and they don't have a Book like the Bible or the Qu'ran.  They just have that Dianetics BS.  Pls, the whole thing is a profitable business.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6553|North Tonawanda, NY

sergeriver wrote:

No, they don't, and they don't have a Book like the Bible or the Qu'ran.  They just have that Dianetics BS.  Pls, the whole thing is a profitable business.
So now you need a book of parables to be a religion?  What is this?  Bizarroworld?

The bible and the koran are books of stories that have a moral to them.  Scientology has a book of morals and ethics.  What is the difference?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7067
so you need a book to be official, what else is on the check list?

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