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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6475|Winland

TL;DR Stuff overheats, and my integrated LAN card isn't working as it's supposed to. It's enabled, but doesn't do anything. I recommend reading what's below.

Today I was doing some regular maintenence on my computer, undusting, sorting wires, re-seating cooler, etc, and thought that I'd test a graphics card that I had lying around, was gonna do some benchmarking, etc.

So, I plug the card in and turn the computer on, just to notice that the card was fried, and wouldn't show more than what could be described as static, with the general shapes of what was displayed. Fuck, I needed that card, how could it have gotten fried during storage in an antistatic bag? Well, I took the card out and re-seated my 7600GS.

Then I took off the CPU heatsink, to replace the thermal paste and try to fix the dieing fan. Then, I thought that I'd test the card with another mobo, jsut to be sure. I seated my CPU in the other mobo, which already had RAM installed, put the card in and hooked up a PSU. No picture at all. No beeps, nothing. Nothing on the integrated graphics controller, either. I was all WUT, since that mobo worked flawlessly the last time I used it, about two months ago. It had also just been stored in an antistatic bag, in a sealed wooden shelf.

A bit confused and worried, I cleaned up the cooling paste from the CPU and put it back in the computer. Thankfully, it turned on just fine. But this is where the real trouble started. During the testing of the video card, I cleared teh CMOS, incase I had some PCIe-tweaks applied, in case they'd be affecting the rather old card. I reconfigured COMS like it had been before, same FSB, same voltages, same speeds and settings.

I booted up to Windows, and noticed that it was running rather slowly. When SpeedFan started, I saw that the CPU was running at a whopping 78C! Moments later, it shut off. Strange, I thought, and re-seated the heatsink with more thermal paste and greater caution. I started up again and went into BIOS to enable C1E and EIST, to keep temps down. Strange, since I have had those off before, and it's ran at under 40C on 4.11GHz. I boot up again, this time it makes that horrible noise of thermal throttling, and SpeedFan reports the CPU at 66C, with all fans maxed. I reboot again, and clock it down to 3GHz, stock speed and voltage. This time it works fine, running at 25C idle, and I get standardized results in SuperPI.

Then, I noticed: The LAN symbol in the taskbar was saying that the LAN cable wasn't connected. I pushed the cable in, reconnected it, nothing. I thought that maybe I had disabled LAN int he BIOS, but I hadn't. I ran some dumb LAN test utility (It detects the lenght of the LAN cables, really neccesary) in the BIOS settings, and sure enough, it found my 5m cable, but the router wasn't, and isn't reading any activity on the port going to the computer, and the LEDs above the LAN port aren't doing anything either.

Thanks for reading.

Anyone got any idea of what's going on?

Update: If I put a hub between my router and the computer, it works, but if I connect my computer directly to the router, it won't.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-02-22 10:32:08)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
jarhedch
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+12|6948|Aberdeen, Uk, SF Bay Area 1st
TBH, that's nuts, but I have seen GPUs fail for no reason, I had one that all I did (and I'm very careful about static) was trasnfer it to a new computer, would work, but only basically, windows would not recognize it to install the drivers, and all i  got was 16 colors, put an older GPU in and it worked just fine. As for the mobo, you have a lot of probs there what mobo you got? CPU?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6475|Winland

jarhedch wrote:

TBH, that's nuts, but I have seen GPUs fail for no reason, I had one that all I did (and I'm very careful about static) was trasnfer it to a new computer, would work, but only basically, windows would not recognize it to install the drivers, and all i  got was 16 colors, put an older GPU in and it worked just fine. As for the mobo, you have a lot of probs there what mobo you got? CPU?
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p1908149
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY
Try different ports on the router?
Volatile
Member
+252|6983|Sextupling in Empire

Lesson:
Don't play with your hardware unless it's absolutely necessary.

This is something I learned last week when I fried my MB.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6758|Somewhere else

Lan cable fucked up?

simple stupid question, but all i have to offer.
jarhedch
Member
+12|6948|Aberdeen, Uk, SF Bay Area 1st

Volatile wrote:

Lesson:
Don't play with your hardware unless it's absolutely necessary.

This is something I learned last week when I fried my MB.
yeah, no kidding, i fried a CPU that way (an old AMD, but still)

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

Last edited by jarhedch (2008-02-22 10:55:11)

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6475|Winland

SenorToenails wrote:

Try different ports on the router?
I've tried all of them. And all also work with this computer.

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Lan cable fucked up?

simple stupid question, but all i have to offer.
No, tried three of them.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY

Freezer7Pro wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Try different ports on the router?
I've tried all of them. And all also work with this computer.

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Lan cable fucked up?

simple stupid question, but all i have to offer.
No, tried three of them.
But it works with a hub between the computer and router?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY

jarhedch wrote:

Volatile wrote:

Lesson:
Don't play with your hardware unless it's absolutely necessary.

This is something I learned last week when I fried my MB.
yeah, no kidding, i fried a CPU that way (an old AMD, but still)

if it ain't broke, don't fix it
I learned that 3 years ago.  I took my system apart to do a complete clean -- get all the dust out of the case.  After 4 years of near continuous operation, it was pretty bad.  But when I put everything back together, 2 DIMM slots just stopped working.  It was bizarre.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7121|Alberta, Canada

You DIYer's make me laugh.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6475|Winland

SenorToenails wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Try different ports on the router?
I've tried all of them. And all also work with this computer.

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Lan cable fucked up?

simple stupid question, but all i have to offer.
No, tried three of them.
But it works with a hub between the computer and router?
Yes, somwhow it does.

Ryan wrote:

You DIYer's make me laugh.
Enjoy your dust, 6-month RMA plan, overpriced logo, pre-configuration and voided warranty.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-02-22 11:40:58)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Yes, somwhow it does.
That's really weird.  Try reinstalling your NIC drivers?  Maybe you had some funky settings?  (Grasps at straws...)
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6475|Winland

Ok, it's working now. It was the common computer killer: Static electricity. I ripped out all cables, and carried the computer to my "ground wire" (A wire that's connected to a water heating element), shoved the wire into the PSU power intake and watched the sparks. Now it's working wonderfully perfect again.

Thanks for the help, though. This problem has made me update my drivers and flash my BIOS, lol.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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