usmarine wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
usmarine wrote:
oh brother
Great contribution, as always.
Same could be said for this stupid ass thread.
Some of you truly have your heads straight up your asses if you try and compare the two. You show me where an American floated on a refrigerator door or on a shity raft in order to cross an ocean to get to another country, then we can start to compare.
BINGO!!!!..This is a great point. I love how people here think that what Fidel has created a utopian society. Seriously, you just cant compare the two. Yes, Fidel did HELP create some good things but if you are a leader for 50 years, I sure hope you would be able to do a few good things.
Lets not forget all the people who were forced out of Cuba during the influx of Cubans during the late 70's, then lets not forget all the people who have been imprisoned for speaking their minds against Fidel. Lets not forget the political prisoners that Fidel has in jail even now and there are many who have been in jail for a long time and if anybody here thinks that people haven't been killed so Fidel could hold his power is a complete moron. Seriously, some of you just don't know history and just want to smell the flowers along the road.
I will agree that the situation that gave Fidel power was because of stupid U.S. politics and maneuvering but was the result a "positive" legacy. In a few ways yes, but I believe that there are thousands of Cubans who would slap your face if you applauded Fidel. There is a reason why so many Cubans want this guy dead. Consider what their families and friends may have gone through before you claim how cool Fidel is.
As far as Bush, as ATG said, he stood his ground from the beginning, some of you hate it, some of you don't. We will see how his leadership will be judged in the future. I will say that no President in our history had to deal with some of the biggest disasters we have had to go along with a war that we are in. 9/11, Hurricane Katrina that destroyed an area the size of Europe...imagine that for a moment. People criticize Bush for a disaster that was beyond comprehension. We go to war based on evidence that EVERYONE was screaming about. Now he is dealing with a credit and housing crunch that was created by greedy banks and credit ignorant society. Anyhow, our economy has help up for the most part and hopefully will get through this credit mess....who knows. Bottom line, I don't know what else any president could have done and we will see in time if a lot of these decisions were good or not.....time has not passed enough to truly know.
You cant compare these two men....A dictator who ruled at all costs and happened to do some good things over a 50 year reign....even the biggest asshole will get some things right over 50 years or an 8 year reign of a president that was presented with decisions that ANY man would have a hard time choosing. Could you have done better?? Would Gore have done better??? If you want to compare legacies of a country. Lets look at 50 years of American leadership to 50 years of Cuban leadership. That would be a no brainer.