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Iraqi people rejecting hard line Islam

1. Al Q are running out of soldiers and supporters - guess.
2. The various factions are just waiting for the US to get out, then there will be civil war.

As someone who has supported this war, and as someone who voted for Bush twice. . . . . agree with the asking of the question WHY???

Its not what the cause was, but ultimately WHY did we enter this war in the first place. . . .

Itd obvious that we attacked Iraq NOT because of WMD's but over money and power to better influence regional leaders to better support us in local affairs, future energy deals/endeavors, and global military contracts/power grabs.  I admit that I was someone who legitimately thought this war was waged because of WMD's and the threat of them against our great nation.  I realize now that not only was not only an incorrect position to take, but was also not factually accurate militarily.  With that said, I think the positive (of engaging Iraq) was that we (the USA and multiple allies) removed a dictator that was an absolute parasite to this earth and set a precident to a world that was void of rationalism and progressive thinking.  Time will ultimately tell whether or not democracy works in such a turbulent world of religious extremism and ancient beliefs. . . . BUT what stands true, is the human ability to adapt to change and except failed policies/stances towards humanity and life in general. 

Just to close, I view Iraq as a state that has everything it needs to succeed in a modern world.  Its got resources, great minds, strong nationalism, resilience, and notoriety.  In essence it got what the USA got when the Brits invaded and LOST. . . . Iraq SLOWLY is coming into its own!! Its VERY SLOWLY showing that it wants to be a viable state! Albeit the process has been tiresome, troubling, corrupt , and demoralizing to a point of questioning the very "point" of why we entered the country in the first place. . . .

Iraq is NOT the same country it was 3 years ago, and certainly wasnt the same country 6 or 10 months ago!! Its moving in a direction that is PROGRESSIVE, thats ANTI extremism, in favor of progressive thought and modern theology/theocracy! This is an obstacle that hasnt been tackled/addressed in hundreds of years. . . . The real question isnt Iraq's willingness to see the future, its America's willingness to stay and fight for its "word/credibility" globally for the next 20+ years! The cards are in our favor due to supreme military might, but also because we are compassionate and able to help a fledgling nation establish itself in the 21st century.


p.s. I am hammered lol! I hope my point is appreciated

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200802 … NFS80.html

sergeriver wrote:

I dunno.

At least 40 people have been killed and scores more injured by a suicide bomber targeting Shia pilgrims in the Iraqi town of Iskandariya, south of Baghdad.

You can keep hoping it gets worse... I hope and pray the Iraqi people realize this opportunity and continue to reject Al Qaeda... and choose to live free...

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I dunno.

At least 40 people have been killed and scores more injured by a suicide bomber targeting Shia pilgrims in the Iraqi town of Iskandariya, south of Baghdad.

You can keep hoping it gets worse... I hope and pray the Iraqi people realize this opportunity and continue to reject Al Qaeda... and choose to live free...

I didn't put the bomb pal, it's on the news.  Sorry, but I hope the best for Iraqi people.  Don't blame the reporter.

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-02-24 14:05:04)

The Terrorists fucked themselves by killing too many civilians, we haven't won the hearts and minds, but the insurgent forces have lost that battle even worse.

Other, it's just a lull from battle fatigue.  Sustained warfare for so long will inspire participants to consider political solutions again (unlikely), or just to take a break, regroup, replan, restock, and continue after a break.