David.P
Banned
+649|6531
Alright this thread is about discussing the things in this game which you dislike in a polite and respectful manner. I.e. No insults! If you disagree with a user above, Then explain why! Don't Start with the Name Calling.

Martyrdom/Nade Spam

I hate Martyrdom, Really hate it sometimes! I dont see whats good about letting people drop a live nade when killed? What does it encourage? Suicide right? By running into the middle of a group of enemies and getting killed? Why? And whats this about throwing back nades? It rarely works, Because 90% of most nades are cooked, And if i kill someone who drops a nade, It's not worth throwing back because you'll never have enough time to throw it back without getting killed by someone else. Martyrdom and Nade Spam in general ruins shipment(An Excellent CQC map if you can find a server that disables nades) And the way it works also sucks, Tell me why should you magically get 1 nade even after you've used em all up? This is especially true for the 3x Frag perk.

Air Strikes.

Normally i dont care much for Air Strikes because i can just get in a building an avoid it, But how about maps like vacant? Where one team spawns outside and the other in the building, Why should one team be impenetrable towards Air Strikes and the other a Sitting duck?(I've seen people get 20 kill streaks with 1 airstrike) On Sabotage Maps it's nearly freaking impossible to defuse a bomb when the enemy calls in a row of Air Strikes on your target while trying to defuse the bomb. There is no good way to stop an Air Strike other then Run and Hide. But the thing i hate most about Air Strikes is how it's just an Excuse to gain 2 kills for the Heli.

Heli Strikes.

The number 1 thing that kills a good game for me. No matter how hard you work, No matter how skillful you are, No matter what! You'll always get killed! Here's an Example, On Crash S&D, I get past all the nade spam, I dont get killed by an Air Strike, I'm inside the enemy base going to plant the bomb, But but out of nowhere i get blasted by a heli! What the Hell? I worked so hard just to get to where i am, Bypassing all the enemies, Not engaging them, Using dead silence and Uav Jammer just in case, And this stupid heli gets me!

On free for all a heli just kills everything, No one willing to shoot it down and waste their ammo, Why? Why does noone try to shoot it down? Why is the scoring system so unfair? Why should you get points only once for shooting it down? Why does the guy who shoots the second Rocket get the points?

But the thing that i hate most about heli's is when people get 7 kills they get themselves killed, Call it in wait for another 7 Rinse and Repeat. I hate it when it's just a nonstop barrage of heli's, It's skill less. Even from my own team! I hate Heli's stealing my kills, Really hate it.

Scoring System.

Assists. They need to be re-worked. 2 points is not enough, Especially when you're sniping and another person right by you is stealing your kills. You should get 5 points, Like in other games(TF2, BF2, etc) But what they really need to do is, Implement a system on Heli's aswell to make them more appealing to shoot down.

The way Activision/Infinity Ward Treats PC users.

#1 Why the hell are we 2nd to the console players? Is it because they can extract more money from them?

#2 This game is a straight console port, I've played this game on the console and i liked it enough to buy it, But the differences in between the two make gameplay crappy on the PC version. On the console 8 players on small maps is enough, But pc's can handle much more and i'm surprised they didn't adjusted the PC version accordingly.(I.e. Firing modes, And Larger Maps)

#3 Lack of Help by their support. I told em i was a PC user and they never answered back.


Your Opinions, Idea's, Rebuttals?
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6672|Vienna

I don't care about other gametypes, but on S&D neither should be allowed ESPECIALLY ON HARDCORE. Unfortunately they made the game for mindless running around in TDM and stuff and added S&D last day of development. No amount of leetnes and penis length will save you from an airstrike in first seccond of the round on your spawn thats filled with explosive cars that respawn every damn round. Even if you penis is so long that it gets stuck on an escalator and you can shove it up your own ass, you will still get roflpwned if you spawn on a bad spot. Choppers are not a big problem on normal mode since they wound more often than they kill, and they can kill only one guy in one salvo. But on HC a chopper never wounds and can kill 5 guys in one go. So even if everyone starts shooting as soon as it comes, 5 guys will still get killed.
For a supposedly EPIC infantry only shooter, air suppport sure does a lot of killing
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6989|St. Andrews / Oslo

Good Idea.

I'll start linking people to this thread
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Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6222|London, England

Cod4 is really dumb with all the shit they do.
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Defiance
Member
+438|6928

Mutantsteak wrote:

Cod4 is really dumb with all the shit they do.
And this is why this idea can't be settled. Sir, you evidently don't like it but please explain why for the sake of a coherent discussion?
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6365|Birmingham, UK
OK, stop whining, i agree with all the stuff you said, but, with the airstrike... just play hardcore, theres the excitement of not knowing where it will be, just carry a LMG and shoot the heli down before it kills one person, ive gotten into the habbit of doing that, and with martyrdom just go on a hardcore server with FF on, or play custom games, few people with it on there.
M@rC.ExE
Member
+28|6481
So I heard about this game called Battlefield 2...
xRBLx
I've got lovely bunch of coconuts!!
+27|6612|England - Kent

M@rC.ExE wrote:

So I heard about this game called Battlefield 2...
Any good?
Nordemus
BC2 plat: CG, GL, M60, Mortar, Knife
+60|6255
Replace Airstrikes with Claymores.
Replace Martyrdom with Nade spam.
Replace Heli with vehicle whoring.

What is the game called?  Oh ye, BF2!
Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6692

David.P wrote:

The way Activision/Infinity Ward Treats PC users.

#1 Why the hell are we 2nd to the console players? Is it because they can extract more money from them?
Simply being, yes. The game costs less on the PC and with the 360's case, people are paying for the online service. The netcode is made for high pings (which you get on Xbox Live) and actually favours them.

Nordemus wrote:

Replace Airstrikes with Claymores.
Replace Martyrdom with Nade spam.
Replace Heli with vehicle whoring.

What is the game called?  Oh ye, BF2!
Tell me where I can place two airstrikes on the floor, have multiple grenades for martyrdom and pilot this helicopter.
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6413|Vancouver | Canada
The only thing that really pisses me off (as far as being pissed off at a video game goes) is the helis.

It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so fucking random, but of course that is too much to ask.

Running around under them rarely gets me killed, but if I'm 500 feet away hiding behind two layers of brick, it gets me.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6912

My opinion: it's just a game, try to ignore this stuff and have fun.

Martyrdom: yeah it sucks, but you know what? If you hear a grenade drop when you kill someone and you stick around, that's your fault. It's even worse if you're not playing hardcore and don't notice the icon or don't throw the nade off into the sky. I just make a mental note of which player that was and next time I kill them, I don't hang around to find out if Martyrdom is still on.

Heli: I admit this pisses me off, too. Seems like when I get a heli, it doesn't rack up any kills whatsoever, but when someone else gets one, it shoots laser beams from another fucking server. But alas, that player who called it earned it, so your only option is to stop complaining and just shoot it down.

Air strikes: I'm not bothered by these. You hear planes overhead, you see bombs falling down, maybe you should move?

Scoring system: puh-leez. Play the fucking game and stop worrying about points! It's so easy to hit level 55 anyway! Stop worrying about a measly few points from an assist and just play. You'll have much for fun if you're playing for entertainment and not worrying about the meager 2 points you got from that last assist.
David.P
Banned
+649|6531
@mtb0minime

Agree but it's hard to have fun when getting killed every time with a nade.

Same except the frequency of nades is so high in the game that, Running away from nade will get you killed by another.

True but noone ever wants to shoot it down.

You try moving when noobs block you, Or when everyone is rushing into the same tiny little space for cover.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6912

I think our main difference is probably because I play in mid- to small-sized servers. I guess in servers with 30 to 50 people in them, you're bound to be blocked and bombarded with nades, helis, and airstrikes. I usually play in servers that have around 20 or less people in them, and I haven't had many problems at all.

Try playing in smaller servers and see if you notice a difference
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6410|what

It seems every time I'm on 4 kills and lining up another shot a heli spots me from out of nowhere and kills me. It doesnt matter if your inside a building, they DO shoot through windows.

I don't really care about martydom, unless its in a close quaters map, where your fighting room to room.
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StormEye
Sniper
+50|6902|Malibu
Meh, for Marty, if FF damage from Marty is forced (even in FF off servers) it'll teach people with proper use.

I do not mind it that much except that some people just have the perk on them and rush WITH teammates in FF off servers. This means when he dies, I have to move away from his nade, but his teammate does not have to care. Thats just BS.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|6946|arica harbour

Mutantsteak wrote:

Cod4 is really dumb with all the shit they do.
/fail
Marinejuana
local
+415|6842|Seattle

David.P wrote:

Alright this thread is about discussing the things in this game which you dislike in a polite and respectful manner. I.e. No insults! If you disagree with a user above, Then explain why! Don't Start with the Name Calling.

Martyrdom/Nade Spam

I hate Martyrdom, Really hate it sometimes! I dont see whats good about letting people drop a live nade when killed? What does it encourage? Suicide right? By running into the middle of a group of enemies and getting killed? Why? And whats this about throwing back nades? It rarely works, Because 90% of most nades are cooked, And if i kill someone who drops a nade, It's not worth throwing back because you'll never have enough time to throw it back without getting killed by someone else. Martyrdom and Nade Spam in general ruins shipment(An Excellent CQC map if you can find a server that disables nades) And the way it works also sucks, Tell me why should you magically get 1 nade even after you've used em all up? This is especially true for the 3x Frag perk.

Air Strikes.

Normally i dont care much for Air Strikes because i can just get in a building an avoid it, But how about maps like vacant? Where one team spawns outside and the other in the building, Why should one team be impenetrable towards Air Strikes and the other a Sitting duck?(I've seen people get 20 kill streaks with 1 airstrike) On Sabotage Maps it's nearly freaking impossible to defuse a bomb when the enemy calls in a row of Air Strikes on your target while trying to defuse the bomb. There is no good way to stop an Air Strike other then Run and Hide. But the thing i hate most about Air Strikes is how it's just an Excuse to gain 2 kills for the Heli.

Heli Strikes.

The number 1 thing that kills a good game for me. No matter how hard you work, No matter how skillful you are, No matter what! You'll always get killed! Here's an Example, On Crash S&D, I get past all the nade spam, I dont get killed by an Air Strike, I'm inside the enemy base going to plant the bomb, But but out of nowhere i get blasted by a heli! What the Hell? I worked so hard just to get to where i am, Bypassing all the enemies, Not engaging them, Using dead silence and Uav Jammer just in case, And this stupid heli gets me!

On free for all a heli just kills everything, No one willing to shoot it down and waste their ammo, Why? Why does noone try to shoot it down? Why is the scoring system so unfair? Why should you get points only once for shooting it down? Why does the guy who shoots the second Rocket get the points?

But the thing that i hate most about heli's is when people get 7 kills they get themselves killed, Call it in wait for another 7 Rinse and Repeat. I hate it when it's just a nonstop barrage of heli's, It's skill less. Even from my own team! I hate Heli's stealing my kills, Really hate it.

Scoring System.

Assists. They need to be re-worked. 2 points is not enough, Especially when you're sniping and another person right by you is stealing your kills. You should get 5 points, Like in other games(TF2, BF2, etc) But what they really need to do is, Implement a system on Heli's aswell to make them more appealing to shoot down.

The way Activision/Infinity Ward Treats PC users.

#1 Why the hell are we 2nd to the console players? Is it because they can extract more money from them?

#2 This game is a straight console port, I've played this game on the console and i liked it enough to buy it, But the differences in between the two make gameplay crappy on the PC version. On the console 8 players on small maps is enough, But pc's can handle much more and i'm surprised they didn't adjusted the PC version accordingly.(I.e. Firing modes, And Larger Maps)

#3 Lack of Help by their support. I told em i was a PC user and they never answered back.


Your Opinions, Idea's, Rebuttals?
Well, david, it looks like for once, we agree.
No/Yes
Member
+14|6199|California, USA
I dislike any game that has a sniper that scores a kill if you shoot someone ANYWHERE!!  Especially if the sniper rifle is semi-auto(like SVD, M21, .50)


And don't you dare tell me to get jaugernaught, i'd like to see you use jaugernaught too.  Also the P90 needs tweaking.
StormEye
Sniper
+50|6902|Malibu

No/Yes wrote:

I dislike any game that has a sniper that scores a kill if you shoot someone ANYWHERE!!  Especially if the sniper rifle is semi-auto(like SVD, M21, .50)


And don't you dare tell me to get jaugernaught, i'd like to see you use jaugernaught too.  Also the P90 needs tweaking.
You know.... This game is already anti-sniper if you understand how to use Assault Rifles....
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7023|UK

mtb0minime wrote:

My opinion: it's just a game, try to ignore this stuff and have fun.

Martyrdom: yeah it sucks, but you know what? If you hear a grenade drop when you kill someone and you stick around, that's your fault. It's even worse if you're not playing hardcore and don't notice the icon or don't throw the nade off into the sky. I just make a mental note of which player that was and next time I kill them, I don't hang around to find out if Martyrdom is still on.

Heli: I admit this pisses me off, too. Seems like when I get a heli, it doesn't rack up any kills whatsoever, but when someone else gets one, it shoots laser beams from another fucking server. But alas, that player who called it earned it, so your only option is to stop complaining and just shoot it down.

Air strikes: I'm not bothered by these. You hear planes overhead, you see bombs falling down, maybe you should move?

Scoring system: puh-leez. Play the fucking game and stop worrying about points! It's so easy to hit level 55 anyway! Stop worrying about a measly few points from an assist and just play. You'll have much for fun if you're playing for entertainment and not worrying about the meager 2 points you got from that last assist.
And here is your answer.
psH
Banned
+217|6641|Sydney

Vilham wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

My opinion: it's just a game, try to ignore this stuff and have fun.

Martyrdom: yeah it sucks, but you know what? If you hear a grenade drop when you kill someone and you stick around, that's your fault. It's even worse if you're not playing hardcore and don't notice the icon or don't throw the nade off into the sky. I just make a mental note of which player that was and next time I kill them, I don't hang around to find out if Martyrdom is still on.

Heli: I admit this pisses me off, too. Seems like when I get a heli, it doesn't rack up any kills whatsoever, but when someone else gets one, it shoots laser beams from another fucking server. But alas, that player who called it earned it, so your only option is to stop complaining and just shoot it down.

Air strikes: I'm not bothered by these. You hear planes overhead, you see bombs falling down, maybe you should move?

Scoring system: puh-leez. Play the fucking game and stop worrying about points! It's so easy to hit level 55 anyway! Stop worrying about a measly few points from an assist and just play. You'll have much for fun if you're playing for entertainment and not worrying about the meager 2 points you got from that last assist.
And here is your answer.
yep, he got it spot on

i agree, and always jump away from the player, as you can almost always get out of the nade blast radius.
I-=C-A-V-E-M-A-N=-I
Member
+12|6628|Ohio
What needs to happen is a patch that allows server admins to disable certain things without the server becoming unranked.  Oh and F all these fancy ass new games with ranking systems! Why would you play a mod when you can get points and increase the size of your e-penis?  But, these changes will probably be allowed sometime after bf2 gets the 1.5 patch.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7023|UK

I-=C-A-V-E-M-A-N=-I wrote:

What needs to happen is a patch that allows server admins to disable certain things without the server becoming unranked.  Oh and F all these fancy ass new games with ranking systems! Why would you play a mod when you can get points and increase the size of your e-penis?  But, these changes will probably be allowed sometime after bf2 gets the 1.5 patch.
WRONG GAME. LEARN TO READ!
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7043|Perth, Western Australia
Didnt you quit this game about four months ago David?

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