GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071

apollo_fi wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I was in Iraq with Patton's great grand nephew.
Your situation would be different to bonnie prince Harry's squadmates at least in this respect:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&t … ephew+iraq
so, everyone elses life is ok to expose to unnecessary dangers, just not royal blood.


before you go with the "He'll be a bullet magnet" response,  Im under the life's philosophy that all wars are unnecessary dangers.  If you are going to send your best out there to die, you better send your royals too.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

Taliban vows revenge: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
According to a Taliban spokesman, the prince’s presence in Helmand province is a direct sign of the British Royal Family’s stance against Muslims and warned it would merely encourage further insurgent attacks against British soldiers.

    Zabihullah Mujahid said: “Prince Harry’s presence in Afghanistan encourages our fighters to launch more attacks on British forces.

    “The Royal Family is now directly participating in the aggression against Muslims.”…

    Mr Mujahid also suggested the British are facing defeat in Afghanistan and that news of the prince’s deployment was deliberately leaked in order to raise spirits.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina
GS, those last 2 sentences are epic...   +1 karma... 
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7009|SE London

Turquoise wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

The piece in the Berliner Kurier?

No one paid any attention to that either, except the guys at the Drudge Report - who are responsible for the leak being widespread.

Almost all the blame lies with them, the other leakers are responsible too, but without a sufficient audience, they wouldn't have been an issue.
This is probably the only time I've defended the Drudge Report, but it sounds like you're blaming Drudge for having a large audience.  I would doubt that he even knew about Harry until he read the other sources.
That is what I'm doing, in a way. That is why Drudge is to blame.

Can you not see that leaks are entirely dependent upon the size of the audience they are leaked to? It's pretty fucking obvious. That's what a leak is. If you have a very small audience, it's not really a leak. Taking it to extremes, it's the difference between a conversation between a couple of people and a global broadcast.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6946|Montucky

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

apollo_fi wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I was in Iraq with Patton's great grand nephew.
Your situation would be different to bonnie prince Harry's squadmates at least in this respect:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&t … ephew+iraq
so, everyone elses life is ok to expose to unnecessary dangers, just not royal blood.


before you go with the "He'll be a bullet magnet" response,  Im under the life's philosophy that all wars are unnecessary dangers.  If you are going to send your best out there to die, you better send your royals too.
If only American Congressmen/women thought that way.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina

Bertster7 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

The piece in the Berliner Kurier?

No one paid any attention to that either, except the guys at the Drudge Report - who are responsible for the leak being widespread.

Almost all the blame lies with them, the other leakers are responsible too, but without a sufficient audience, they wouldn't have been an issue.
This is probably the only time I've defended the Drudge Report, but it sounds like you're blaming Drudge for having a large audience.  I would doubt that he even knew about Harry until he read the other sources.
That is what I'm doing, in a way. That is why Drudge is to blame.

Can you not see that leaks are entirely dependent upon the size of the audience they are leaked to? It's pretty fucking obvious. That's what a leak is. If you have a very small audience, it's not really a leak. Taking it to extremes, it's the difference between a conversation between a couple of people and a global broadcast.
Well, I suppose the alternative is reading New Idea for all the latest in news breaks...  lol
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071

S3v3N wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

apollo_fi wrote:


Your situation would be different to bonnie prince Harry's squadmates at least in this respect:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&t … ephew+iraq
so, everyone elses life is ok to expose to unnecessary dangers, just not royal blood.


before you go with the "He'll be a bullet magnet" response,  Im under the life's philosophy that all wars are unnecessary dangers.  If you are going to send your best out there to die, you better send your royals too.
If only American Congressmen/women thought that way.
there are only handful.


Isnt the VA governors son an officer in Iraq?
apollo_fi
The Flying Kalakukko.
+94|6958|The lunar module

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

apollo_fi wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I was in Iraq with Patton's great grand nephew.
Your situation would be different to bonnie prince Harry's squadmates at least in this respect:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&t … ephew+iraq
so, everyone elses life is ok to expose to unnecessary dangers, just not royal blood.


before you go with the "He'll be a bullet magnet" response,  Im under the life's philosophy that all wars are unnecessary dangers.  If you are going to send your best out there to die, you better send your royals too.
Definitely. IMO, the progeny of the powers-that-be should be made to join the first waves of attack... in any war.
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7271|Waikato, Aotearoa

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

apollo_fi wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I was in Iraq with Patton's great grand nephew.
Your situation would be different to bonnie prince Harry's squadmates at least in this respect:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&t … ephew+iraq
so, everyone elses life is ok to expose to unnecessary dangers, just not royal blood.


before you go with the "He'll be a bullet magnet" response,  Im under the life's philosophy that all wars are unnecessary dangers.  If you are going to send your best out there to die, you better send your royals too.
Of course Royal Blood have been exposed to the risks of Enemy fire.......
Harry's uncle, Price Andrew is a friggin war hero!!!! (Served in the RN as a chopper pilot during the Falklands Conflict and saved some people)......
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071

-101-InvaderZim wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

apollo_fi wrote:


Your situation would be different to bonnie prince Harry's squadmates at least in this respect:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&t … ephew+iraq
so, everyone elses life is ok to expose to unnecessary dangers, just not royal blood.


before you go with the "He'll be a bullet magnet" response,  Im under the life's philosophy that all wars are unnecessary dangers.  If you are going to send your best out there to die, you better send your royals too.
Of course Royal Blood have been exposed to the risks of Enemy fire.......
Harry's uncle, Price Andrew is a friggin war hero!!!! (Served in the RN as a chopper pilot during the Falklands Conflict and saved some people)......
exactly, thats why he shouldnt have been pulled out of afghanistan.  glad you see it my way.
jord
Member
+2,382|7106|The North, beyond the wall.
Did anyone watch the documentary today? I've never been in a firefight but he just looked like he was firing into the sky on that .50...
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6917|Gogledd Cymru

I heard on the radio today, some irate woman said he is selfish and irresponsible for going to war and putting other soldiers lives in danger.

What an idiot, it's more people like him we need in the army fighting our wars not jobless housewives with nothing better to do.
samfink
Member
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being a brit, here's my reaction: good on price harry, but i'd like to throttle that drudge guy. does he not realise there is a goddamn REASON the MoD wanted the news kept quiet? it seems like the guy specialises in broadcasting news of things under a news blackout. personally, i'm wondering if there is anything he can be charged with. Pr4ince Harry is the kind of person we need in the army, he might be of noble birth, but he juts wants to be treated as one of the guys. it was highly irresponsible for Drudge to publicise his involvement, i mean, hell, the MoD were going ot release the story after he finished his tour of duty anyway, couldn't he ( Drudge) respect that?
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6650|Escea

jord wrote:

Did anyone watch the documentary today? I've never been in a firefight but he just looked like he was firing into the sky on that .50...
He looked like he was having a great time.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7049|London, England

jord wrote:

Did anyone watch the documentary today? I've never been in a firefight but he just looked like he was firing into the sky on that .50...
That there them Taliban arr mounten rainjerz
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7079|USA

samfink wrote:

being a brit, here's my reaction: good on price harry, but i'd like to throttle that drudge guy. does he not realise there is a goddamn REASON the MoD wanted the news kept quiet? it seems like the guy specialises in broadcasting news of things under a news blackout. personally, i'm wondering if there is anything he can be charged with. Pr4ince Harry is the kind of person we need in the army, he might be of noble birth, but he juts wants to be treated as one of the guys. it was highly irresponsible for Drudge to publicise his involvement, i mean, hell, the MoD were going ot release the story after he finished his tour of duty anyway, couldn't he ( Drudge) respect that?
I agree.

I also think the media should be held accountable for the stuff they publish, up to and including treason and collaborating with the enemy.
dimascurtu
Member
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"I agree.

I also think the media should be held accountable for the stuff they publish, up to and including treason and collaborating with the enemy."

...free speech? although i agree the media should be more responsible, the government CANNOT control the media, it is the voice of the people.
Lai
Member
+186|6579

lowing wrote:

samfink wrote:

being a brit, here's my reaction: good on price harry, but i'd like to throttle that drudge guy. does he not realise there is a goddamn REASON the MoD wanted the news kept quiet? it seems like the guy specialises in broadcasting news of things under a news blackout. personally, i'm wondering if there is anything he can be charged with. Pr4ince Harry is the kind of person we need in the army, he might be of noble birth, but he juts wants to be treated as one of the guys. it was highly irresponsible for Drudge to publicise his involvement, i mean, hell, the MoD were going ot release the story after he finished his tour of duty anyway, couldn't he ( Drudge) respect that?
I agree.

I also think the media should be held accountable for the stuff they publish, up to and including treason and collaborating with the enemy.
I concur, free media sucks!

The idea is that "the people" get a broad objective selection of information (note that it is the entire selection that is supposed to be objective and not an individual ammount of information) and are thus able to form an image based on their own subjective preferences. However, we (or at least I here in Holland) often see that this is not the case. Particular views are over-represented and unpopular views might not be presented at all. It's not uncommon for the free media to form a block and as such indoctrinate the people in a unfree manner.
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6427|...

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

actually, he was an asshole.  Didnt like him at all.  The bastard got in the army 2 years after I did and hes one rank higher than I am.
Ah, spoiled, I suppose?
dumb fuck.  cannon cocker.  he went to a rival highschool.  we grew up in the same town.  Ive got too big of a mouth.  Ive been busted down in rank more times than Id like to say.   The way I post here is really the way I act in person.  Why I made the decision not to go career 3 days after I started basic training.  Ive just got too big of a mouth.  I call it like I see it.  I should be an E-6 right now, but Im not.  This dude, on the other hand, had everything handed to him, wasnt good at his job and pretty much kissed ass and waved the "Im related to Patton" flag.



thing is, and he denied it, I think it a relation through adoption.


Patton was born in my hometown.
Sounds like a douche. I bet Patton would personally beat him up for acting like that .


and on topic;

Royals. I really don't give a damn about them, and if they would want to earn a little bit of respect they'd have to prove themselves. Just like any other person to me, and the more taliban he would draw towards him the better imo. You might even be able to get a shot at some important taliban figures because he draws so much attention.

Last edited by dayarath (2008-03-02 01:56:58)

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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6533|eXtreme to the maX
i wonder what kinds of special precautions they take for his unit. i mean, hes royalty, they must be handling him a BIT differently, right? too bad nobody put the prince harry gunfight on youtube. i know id check it out.
You can bet your boots there is a contingent of SAS whose sole objective is the keep the Taleban clear of Harry.
Fuck Israel
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6928|so randum

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Kennedy etc.. weren't really "famous" when they went to war. Well not on the level that Ginger Harry is in terms of "fame" and "social importance" at the time of fighting (I wanna emphasise the quotes because I think it's all BS)
Prince Andrew flew Helos during the Falkland War i think.
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jord
Member
+2,382|7106|The North, beyond the wall.

FatherTed wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Kennedy etc.. weren't really "famous" when they went to war. Well not on the level that Ginger Harry is in terms of "fame" and "social importance" at the time of fighting (I wanna emphasise the quotes because I think it's all BS)
Prince Andrew flew Helos during the Falkland War i think.
He still did for some time after on SBS ops.
Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|7158|Uhh... erm...

lowing wrote:

I also think the media should be held accountable for the stuff they publish, up to and including treason and collaborating with the enemy.
I'm with you on that.


Telling people why dumbasses blow themselves up is one thing, but encouraging dumbasses to blow themselves up is another.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7269|Cologne, Germany

dimascurtu wrote:

"I agree.

I also think the media should be held accountable for the stuff they publish, up to and including treason and collaborating with the enemy."

...free speech? although i agree the media should be more responsible, the government CANNOT control the media, it is the voice of the people.
Drudge isn't exactly the voice of the people. that's like saying TMZ will be up for a Pulitzer for their "courageous" reporting on Britney...

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