thats what she saidusmarine wrote:
it aint that hard
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Pay your own bills for college, and then you'll have some idea of what the college should/should not provide to paying customers.Schittloaf wrote:
you missed my point . wasn't about weather or not stat padding was breaking rules.
ever heard of "Curves for Women" its a ladies only gym. couldn't they just go there. even have the college pick up the tab instead of making an issue and making the rules bend for them .
Think of it this way: Why should the college pick up the tab for an off site gym when they can repurpose one of the many gyms of campus to serve the same needs, at no extra cost?
I question your comprehension of the situation. If that were the only gym on campus, I would agree with you. Except it isn't the only gym, so no one is being barred from exercise.Stingray24 wrote:
It's banning everyone else for those hours. How is that better or fair?
you assume i didn't pay my way through college . well i did and if some small group of Muslim women tried to pull that shit when i went to college they would have said no! its stupid minority rights bullshit. go somewhere else!!!SenorToenails wrote:
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Pay your own bills for college, and then you'll have some idea of what the college should/should not provide to paying customers.Schittloaf wrote:
you missed my point . wasn't about weather or not stat padding was breaking rules.
ever heard of "Curves for Women" its a ladies only gym. couldn't they just go there. even have the college pick up the tab instead of making an issue and making the rules bend for them .
Think of it this way: Why should the college pick up the tab for an off site gym when they can repurpose one of the many gyms of campus to serve the same needs, at no extra cost?
Fuck religion, Every one has the right to do what they want when they want if you cant show your skin then DO NOT COME TO MY COUNTRY where every one is equell and try to make it so you have special Privlages. Work out in your closet if you don't want to follow every one else. FUCK Minorities FUCK THEM. (I an not saying lets all conform But I hate when People what special persiflages because of there religion. Every one should be equal in every thing ooo this cind of shit grinds my gears)
I didn't say they said it was about white men. I posed a hypothetical question to challenge your reasoning and it does not go unnoticed that you and the rest of the bf2s think tank will not answer it, because you can not answer it truthfully and still stay consistent with your argument.SenorToenails wrote:
lowing, did these women say they were uncomfortable around white men only? Didn't think so. Their grievance was about men in general, but you added race to the mix, changing it. That hypothetical is not relevant to the discussion.lowing wrote:
.....and all you really needed to do was be honest and answer the question........I understand why you refuse, so I will let it go.
Why pose hypothetical questions when there are plenty of unhypothetical questions that needs a discussion ?lowing wrote:
I didn't say they said it was about white men. I posed a hypothetical question to challenge your reasoning and it does not go unnoticed that you and the rest of the bf2s think tank will not answer it, because you can not answer it truthfully and still stay consistent with your argument.SenorToenails wrote:
lowing, did these women say they were uncomfortable around white men only? Didn't think so. Their grievance was about men in general, but you added race to the mix, changing it. That hypothetical is not relevant to the discussion.lowing wrote:
.....and all you really needed to do was be honest and answer the question........I understand why you refuse, so I will let it go.
Answering hypothetical questions will only give you hypothetical answeres lowing so what's the point of bringing that into this very debate where one specific issue was raised and debated ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
SenorToeNails wrote:Varegg wrote:
Why pose hypothetical questions when there are plenty of unhypothetical questions that needs a discussion ?lowing wrote:
I didn't say they said it was about white men. I posed a hypothetical question to challenge your reasoning and it does not go unnoticed that you and the rest of the bf2s think tank will not answer it, because you can not answer it truthfully and still stay consistent with your argument.SenorToenails wrote:
lowing, did these women say they were uncomfortable around white men only? Didn't think so. Their grievance was about men in general, but you added race to the mix, changing it. That hypothetical is not relevant to the discussion.
Answering hypothetical questions will only give you hypothetical answeres lowing so what's the point of bringing that into this very debate where one specific issue was raised and debated ...
Why not bar them from playing the church bells? It disturbs others from their sleep. The church gets special treatment, since it is a public disturbance. But it's OK, since they have been doing it for a while!
Here is something for you lowing:
SenorToeNails wrote:
You don't believe in special interest groups, right? What is your opinion of the GI Bill? Or special benefits for veterans? If one of my employees gets deployed, am I not barred from terminating him?
If the catholic and protestant churches near me can play their church bells, could the local mosque play the call for prayer?
SenorToeNails wrote:
I'm betting you'll say no, and that would mean that Christians are getting special considerations. Oh no!
I ment those Jewish boys and girls switching parts, meaning they get to play another part in the play just not the pig. Some other kid from the majority group gets assigned the pig role. Anyway it was just a quick example.
And I dont know how you expect me to quantify the level of intrusion and set a numerical limit What kind of a "line" do you expect me to give you? Every example is different and its decided by different people. If someone request the feet washing thingy at an airport than the owner or the board, for example, can decide whether to put it in or not. If its related to the school than the school board will review the request and decide. They wont pull out a book that has all possible requests anyone can request. They will think about it, figure out the possible cost of it, how much does it affect other people involved etc.
zeidmaan wrote:
"For example (this is a real life example), at the restaurant at my university in Vienna they only make one type of lunch per day. Mondays is pasta, tuesdays is fish etc... One of the days is meat with potatoes and the meat happens to be pork. So some Muslim and Jewish students along with some others who dont eat pork signed a petition and made an official request that they start making 2 menus that day, one with pork one with beef. It was declined but the university representatives didnt say "gtfo adapt to our ways or FU". They met with the student and showed them what would need to be done to accommodate them (expended kitchen, more staff etc) showed them the prices and respectfully declined. Civilized, collegial and fair. Thats quite wrong and its definitely not civilized or the "American way".
zeidmaan wrote:
"You see in civilized and democratic and socially developed Bosnia and Herzegovina we proudly give concessions to minority groups. Catholics are exempt from work or school during mayor religious holidays, so are Orthodox Christians and Jews. The whatsitcalled (zoning commission maybe) will not issue a permit for opening a pub if its in the close vicinity of a church or Christian/Orthodox/Jewish cemetery. During mayor holidays of Catholics or Orthodox Christians the state TV will devote most of the day to programs, movies, documentaries and religious sermons pertaining to that particular holiday. A lot of private TV stations will do the same depending on their targeted audience.
Since there are many workers from India in some factories, it they request it, arrangements are made to make an isolated part in mess halls for them. But you see, its not a news worthy scandal when they request something like that. If it makes sense and its feasible and doesnt intrude too much than its done. Plain and simple.
Does that make Bosnia better or worse than a hypothetical "Lowing - My way or the Highway" country?"
Now if analogies and hypotheticals are all of a sudden no longer used to debate in BF2S, explain to my I am asked about Jewish boys, Catholics, Protestents, the GI Bill, church bells. resteraunts in Vienna etc.......There is more shit I can use but I think my point has been made.
So if I am supposed to answer questions posed to me such as the above, I think it is fair for you all to answer my hypotheticals and analogies. Like I said however, I understand why you will not do it, because if you are truthful you will nt be able to stay true to your argument.
Varegg wrote:
lowing wrote:
SenorToenails wrote:
lowing, did these women say they were uncomfortable around white men only? Didn't think so. Their grievance was about men in general, but you added race to the mix, changing it. That hypothetical is not relevant to the discussion.
I didn't say they said it was about white men. I posed a hypothetical question to challenge your reasoning and it does not go unnoticed that you and the rest of the bf2s think tank will not answer it, because you can not answer it truthfully and still stay consistent with your argument.
Why pose hypothetical questions when there are plenty of unhypothetical questions that needs a discussion ?
Answering hypothetical questions will only give you hypothetical answeres lowing so what's the point of bringing that into this very debate where one specific issue was raised and debated ...
SenorToeNails wrote:
Why not bar them from playing the church bells? It disturbs others from their sleep. The church gets special treatment, since it is a public disturbance. But it's OK, since they have been doing it for a while!
Here is something for you lowing:
SenorToeNails wrote:
You don't believe in special interest groups, right? What is your opinion of the GI Bill? Or special benefits for veterans? If one of my employees gets deployed, am I not barred from terminating him?
If the catholic and protestant churches near me can play their church bells, could the local mosque play the call for prayer?
SenorToeNails wrote:
I'm betting you'll say no, and that would mean that Christians are getting special considerations. Oh no!
I ment those Jewish boys and girls switching parts, meaning they get to play another part in the play just not the pig. Some other kid from the majority group gets assigned the pig role. Anyway it was just a quick example.
And I dont know how you expect me to quantify the level of intrusion and set a numerical limit What kind of a "line" do you expect me to give you? Every example is different and its decided by different people. If someone request the feet washing thingy at an airport than the owner or the board, for example, can decide whether to put it in or not. If its related to the school than the school board will review the request and decide. They wont pull out a book that has all possible requests anyone can request. They will think about it, figure out the possible cost of it, how much does it affect other people involved etc.
zeidmaan wrote:
"For example (this is a real life example), at the restaurant at my university in Vienna they only make one type of lunch per day. Mondays is pasta, tuesdays is fish etc... One of the days is meat with potatoes and the meat happens to be pork. So some Muslim and Jewish students along with some others who dont eat pork signed a petition and made an official request that they start making 2 menus that day, one with pork one with beef. It was declined but the university representatives didnt say "gtfo adapt to our ways or FU". They met with the student and showed them what would need to be done to accommodate them (expended kitchen, more staff etc) showed them the prices and respectfully declined. Civilized, collegial and fair. Thats quite wrong and its definitely not civilized or the "American way".
zeidmaan wrote:
"You see in civilized and democratic and socially developed Bosnia and Herzegovina we proudly give concessions to minority groups. Catholics are exempt from work or school during mayor religious holidays, so are Orthodox Christians and Jews. The whatsitcalled (zoning commission maybe) will not issue a permit for opening a pub if its in the close vicinity of a church or Christian/Orthodox/Jewish cemetery. During mayor holidays of Catholics or Orthodox Christians the state TV will devote most of the day to programs, movies, documentaries and religious sermons pertaining to that particular holiday. A lot of private TV stations will do the same depending on their targeted audience.
Since there are many workers from India in some factories, it they request it, arrangements are made to make an isolated part in mess halls for them. But you see, its not a news worthy scandal when they request something like that. If it makes sense and its feasible and doesnt intrude too much than its done. Plain and simple.
Does that make Bosnia better or worse than a hypothetical "Lowing - My way or the Highway" country?"
Lowing wrote
Now if analogies and hypotheticals are all of a sudden no longer used to debate in BF2S, explain to my I am asked about Jewish boys, Catholics, Protestents, the GI Bill, church bells. resteraunts in Vienna etc.......There is more shit I can use but I think my point has been made.
So if I am supposed to answer questions posed to me such as the above, I think it is fair for you all to answer my hypotheticals and analogies. Like I said however, I understand why you will not do it, because if you are truthful you will nt be able to stay true to your argument.
You forget how to quote?
lowing wrote:
SenorToenails wrote:
lowing, did these women say they were uncomfortable around white men only? Didn't think so. Their grievance was about men in general, but you added race to the mix, changing it. That hypothetical is not relevant to the discussion.
I didn't say they said it was about white men. I posed a hypothetical question to challenge your reasoning and it does not go unnoticed that you and the rest of the bf2s think tank will not answer it, because you can not answer it truthfully and still stay consistent with your argument.
Why pose hypothetical questions when there are plenty of unhypothetical questions that needs a discussion ?
Answering hypothetical questions will only give you hypothetical answeres lowing so what's the point of bringing that into this very debate where one specific issue was raised and debated ...
SenorToeNails wrote:
Why not bar them from playing the church bells? It disturbs others from their sleep. The church gets special treatment, since it is a public disturbance. But it's OK, since they have been doing it for a while!
Here is something for you lowing:
SenorToeNails wrote:
You don't believe in special interest groups, right? What is your opinion of the GI Bill? Or special benefits for veterans? If one of my employees gets deployed, am I not barred from terminating him?
If the catholic and protestant churches near me can play their church bells, could the local mosque play the call for prayer?
SenorToeNails wrote:
I'm betting you'll say no, and that would mean that Christians are getting special considerations. Oh no!
I ment those Jewish boys and girls switching parts, meaning they get to play another part in the play just not the pig. Some other kid from the majority group gets assigned the pig role. Anyway it was just a quick example.
And I dont know how you expect me to quantify the level of intrusion and set a numerical limit What kind of a "line" do you expect me to give you? Every example is different and its decided by different people. If someone request the feet washing thingy at an airport than the owner or the board, for example, can decide whether to put it in or not. If its related to the school than the school board will review the request and decide. They wont pull out a book that has all possible requests anyone can request. They will think about it, figure out the possible cost of it, how much does it affect other people involved etc.
zeidmaan wrote:
"For example (this is a real life example), at the restaurant at my university in Vienna they only make one type of lunch per day. Mondays is pasta, tuesdays is fish etc... One of the days is meat with potatoes and the meat happens to be pork. So some Muslim and Jewish students along with some others who dont eat pork signed a petition and made an official request that they start making 2 menus that day, one with pork one with beef. It was declined but the university representatives didnt say "gtfo adapt to our ways or FU". They met with the student and showed them what would need to be done to accommodate them (expended kitchen, more staff etc) showed them the prices and respectfully declined. Civilized, collegial and fair. Thats quite wrong and its definitely not civilized or the "American way".
zeidmaan wrote:
"You see in civilized and democratic and socially developed Bosnia and Herzegovina we proudly give concessions to minority groups. Catholics are exempt from work or school during mayor religious holidays, so are Orthodox Christians and Jews. The whatsitcalled (zoning commission maybe) will not issue a permit for opening a pub if its in the close vicinity of a church or Christian/Orthodox/Jewish cemetery. During mayor holidays of Catholics or Orthodox Christians the state TV will devote most of the day to programs, movies, documentaries and religious sermons pertaining to that particular holiday. A lot of private TV stations will do the same depending on their targeted audience.
Since there are many workers from India in some factories, it they request it, arrangements are made to make an isolated part in mess halls for them. But you see, its not a news worthy scandal when they request something like that. If it makes sense and its feasible and doesnt intrude too much than its done. Plain and simple.
Does that make Bosnia better or worse than a hypothetical "Lowing - My way or the Highway" country?"
Lowing wrote
Now if analogies and hypotheticals are all of a sudden no longer used to debate in BF2S, explain to my I am asked about Jewish boys, Catholics, Protestents, the GI Bill, church bells. resteraunts in Vienna etc.......There is more shit I can use but I think my point has been made.
So if I am supposed to answer questions posed to me such as the above, I think it is fair for you all to answer my hypotheticals and analogies. Like I said however, I understand why you will not do it, because if you are truthful you will nt be able to stay true to your argument.
You forget how to quote?