scottydnt1
Member
+-1|7128
My favs the G36C, closely followed by the L85A1 both solid performers. the scope on the L85A1 rocks and makes a huge difference in maps like karkand.  Most disapointing unlock hands down is the G3, was hanging out for my next promotion and wasted it on the G3. Not enough rounds and I'm far too inaccurate to be walking around with only 20 bulletts.
PFCStenzel
Check your AA alarm...
+82|7213|Idaho, USA / Age 30
I would have to say that the Shotguns are the most worthless weapon in the game.  My brother-in-law was a combat engy and they don't care around shottys.  They have freaking things such as a Grenade launcher -

MM-1 40mm grenade launcher - http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl15-e.htm
or this nice weapon -
Heckler und Koch UMP - http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg16-e.htm
ishbu
Member
+0|7110

Krappyappy wrote:

the QBZ-95 is the most underrated weapon in the game, i think. people never use it because almost everyone has the g36c unlocked. it's so easy to hit people with the QBZ it's almost stupid, the thing is dead accurate and has ultra fast deviation reset - you can let out bursts much faster than other guns.
qft
dondon
Member
+3|7135
L85 is the worst unlock.
I regret unlocking the M95.
The M16 is the most useless default gun. I've never used burst in any FPS game. I'd rather control my own bullets, thanks.

The G3 is actually a decent gun. I used it for quite a few ranks and managed to get my K/D ratio above 1. I stopped using it after I got the F2000, though. The noobtube has come in handy many times.
The MK3A1 is also an awesome gun. I play Engineer just to use it.
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7229|Marathon, Florida Keys
my favorite unlock is the g36c because every bullet goes in the same spot even on full auto with sights. me=lamer
https://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/patton1337/stats.jpg
maton
LAZY ZOMBIE
+-4|7197
useless weapon
type 85 it feels like is going to brake and also i don't like the sk12 it takes forever to unfold
at first i was disapointed with the g3, but later on got better and i only use it in single shot
and  I LOVE the M95, i have killed people from long distances while they were moving
Berserk_Vampire
Banned
+7|7107
I find all the machine guns to be useless specially the unlock for support class that machine  gun is so crappy slow and DAMN ugly hate that piece of crap.

Yep the smg for anti tank are crap but before i had the dao12 i still got some good kills the one for mec is worse.

So is the medic's unlock really that bad? I think i tried it once but was along time ago it didnt seem very accurate and in the unlocks it says "the weapon was so accurate they had to redesign there marksmenship tests"

then they create the gun in the game to be crappy / inaccurate? haha.

But its a nice looking gun hate the m16 for medic pretty useless.
(HUN)Rudebwoy
Member
+45|7174
I've played support for quite a while, and in my opinion the PKM is absolutely worthless.
I cant get a hit with it while prone, and the enemy is is about 10 meters away. In support class both m249 and rpk are good, but that pkm...well, shit.

The other weapon I hate is the DAO-12.I just cant use it, and I really hate it, when I shoot all 12 rounds at the enemy and he kills while I reload.Or he kills me with DAO with 1-2 shots from quite a distance...Now that weapon needs skill to handle.


And one thing I experienced:
when my global hours of play was about at 200, I always used the unlocks for every kit.Now Im goin back to the roots:
I've been using the m24 instead of m95, the m4, and the m16a2...
darkcrystal
First Aid! Here!
+12|7107
best default:  ak-74u.  it just rapes quickly.
worst default:  AT subs.  they are just horrid.  i prefer to use the pistol.
honorable mention:  usmc shotty.  it just owns so bad.  i fell in love with it today i guess you could say

best unlock:  from what i have, id have to go with the L8.  ive got the g3 (never use it), pkm, and m95.  i rarely snipe, the pkm is really inaccurate, and i like having my n00b t00b (even tho im not a n00b t00ber).  if they just replaced that stupid L8 scope with a red dot, i would be happy.
worst unlock:  again, from what i have, id say that the m95 sucks.  its been covered.
Umbra Acciptris
Member
+1|7175
L85A1, only because of the G36E .  The L85A1 was a great gun before, having the best accuracy in a single shot of any medic gun. Yet the G36E fully outclasses it. . . and the M16, and AK101 for that matter.
G3, although I use it alot, the small clip size makes it quite a suck ass gun.  Normaly I only use it in place of the M16, as the stoping power of the M16 (noob toob aside) is horible.  Also, I like grenades over toobs on many maps.
MG36 - I thought the accuracy would be a nice trade off for the power.  I was wrong.  still hard as hell to hit any thing from a med distance, yet now you have to do so more often.
-|V2^Fraggus
Member
+0|7127|Belgium
Without a doubt this one  : http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/unlocks/mp-7

I mean c'mon , my pisser does more damage ...
Fahrenheit
Member
+0|7198

idiotofwar wrote:

They're all good. It's just people like you who aren't skilled with that kit.
I agree with you there! i hate all the support unlocks but then as u say im unskilled with them. I played around with all the support guns and they fire all over the spot regardless of shot burst or prone pos, the only thing i find them usefull for is shooting slicks. I shot a guy point blank in crouch pos and he still killed me, lack of skill aside, a gun that powerful should be blowing holes through him in seconds...bring back the old guns...MG42, MG34, Bren and .30cal....lol.....other useless weapons standard engy and anti tank guns, F2000, scar-L mainly cos i prefer the old unlocks like G3 and G36...most wasted unlock again due to lack of skill M95...dont know why i bothered with that one i hardly play as sniper........hope they introduce some better weapons for anti tank and sniper then maybe i use them more.
ResDog1
Member
+51|7185|Netherlands
A good weapon is the weapon you know how to use...
If you do not know how to use a weapon even the best weapon is useless...
I would say, there are no bad weapons in BF2 as long as you know how to use them and how to counter their weaknesses.
Fahrenheit
Member
+0|7198

oberst_enzian wrote:

goddamn - i don't, like, totally suck, but i simply cannot hit anything with the PKM. at all. not even when i am lying prone, 3 feet behind my target, who has his back to me, aiming straight at his trunk, while he's afk. i can use up a whole belt, and he still has enough time to return from the bathroom, sit down, put his headphones back on, turn around, pull out his knife, walk over to me and stab me in the face.

...

can someone pleeeeeease give me some pkm tips?

also, i have to say that the G3 simply pwns all in close quarters. it's one of my favorite unlocks...
Yes dont use any of em there all shite..lol i thought it was just my lack of skill but they are totally crap! i can hit and kill a guy twice the distance away with the G36c, the UK have developed a better sniper rifle thats more powerful and accurate than the Barret, hope it gets added to BF2, and please EA/DICE give the anti-tank guy an AA gun as well...im sick n tired of being blown away by jets n slicks when in stingers. I dont care if the damn thing is totally innaccurate atleast it will scare the buggers!!! cos they cant see ya in the green box..
sragoot
Member
+3|7154
I dont know where all this hate i towards the L85A1 and M95 is coming from but for me personally ive out snipped snipers with the L85A1, but when most people get up close and personal with someone body with the L8 they have a tendency to hold down the trigger. Quick taps it gets the job done for me, i like the g36e but for me theyre both good, any weapon is devasting in hands of the proper person. As for the m95 it owns people in vehicles if wielded by a true marksman, yah i still use the m24 on maps i know i wont have a chance to shoot through glass, but maps like shrqi or oman dont be on heli pad waiting or in a jet just chilin your just giving me a free kill
dub
Member
+0|7107|Austria
For me it's also got the be the M95. I can seriously snipe better with my G36C (which is my favourite (and first) unlock till now)
Second favourite is now my new medic unlock, the G36E.

I know that my next useless unlock is going to have to be the Jackhammer , as I really wouldn't mind getting the MP-7 so I can play the engineer more... I really can't stand the shotty's.
RAS_ace10
Member
+12|7172

Krappyappy wrote:

the m249 is such a crap weapon. you can prone and sight and still miss targets five feet in front of you. which is a shame because it's the best looking LMG imo, and really feels like a machine gun when being fired. it's just one of those weapons that i use because it's fun to shoot, even though i have both the mg36 and pkm unlocked.

the QBZ-95 is the most underrated weapon in the game, i think. people never use it because almost everyone has the g36c unlocked. it's so easy to hit people with the QBZ it's almost stupid, the thing is dead accurate and has ultra fast deviation reset - you can let out bursts much faster than other guns.
what type of gun is the "m249" i have NEVER heard/been killed by that one?

Last edited by RAS_ace10 (2006-01-06 04:51:19)

Speelbal
Member
+146|7171|Netherlands
MK3A1. Jackhammer. My last unlock. S12K and M11 shotguns are as much as powerful. S12K almost the same. Shotgun could have a 1 shot kill.

DOA12. No long range weapon. Great for close combat, but I kill a guy with the same speed with the Mp5 or PP19. And those subs have a better range.

L85A1. I used it much, but not anymore. M16a2 is way better, Ak101 too. Still waiting for the G36E though.
mort4u
Artillery catcher
+5|7258|Munich, Germany

RAS_ace10 wrote:

what type of gun is the "m249" i have NEVER heard/been killed by that one?
M249 is the basic support LMG on the USMC side also called SAW.

so far my worthless unlock is th SCAR-L. inaccurate, ugly and not even more powerful than the ther spec-ops guns. maybe i could practice a bit with it but why should i when i got a G36 thats hits where i aim anyway.

next would be the PKM. yes its powerful but to inacurate. from a LMG i expect to be able to mow down anything in CQC but standing without sights it just shoots in 90°. prone and with sights its ok even io sometimes wonder how some ppl can be so damn accurate with that thing.

i also cant see the bashing on the G3, L85, M95. these are weapons wich become really powerful with some practice. imho the major problem in the community is the believe that the unlocks are upgrades. but they are not! they are unlocks and they just have other strengths and weaknesses like the standard guns.
my first unlock was the G3 and at firs i also thought it sucks.. then i used it for some time and in the end its teh pwnage if used correctly same goes for the others.
Slowpinger-GER-
Kermit was here...
+-1|7199|Hamburg
dont like the jackhammer and the g3.
why? g3: prefer weapons that hit (g36c-E)
        jackhammer: standard weapon is more usefull in close combat (one shot->one kill)
-|V2^Fraggus
Member
+0|7127|Belgium
How can you NOT like the jackhammer ... its "teh pwn0r"  in close combat.  Get some facts straight.

With the jack hammer you can also get on "shot one kill". you have 8 pelts that deal 15 damage = 120 damage when most classes have only  100 health.

the standard engi weapon is 25X8 = 200 damage. Theoretically, but when you move and shoot you never hit all 8 on target so "the jack" with the higher rate of fire get the first prize )).
Drunk_Musketeer
To be honest I don't care anyway..
+57|7157|Great Wall
My favourites: AK-101, QBZ-97, M24
Shite: MP5 and substitutes
Best Unlocks: G36C, G36E
Worst Unlocks: L85A1, G3, M95

Last edited by Drunk_Musketeer (2006-01-06 07:38:53)

warco3
Member
+1|7148|Orlando, FL
I have to agree the QBZ-95 (PLA spec ops default) is probably the most underrated weapon in the game. It owns hardcore compared to the other spec ops weapons. But the one single weapon that sucks the most in the game would have to be the Type 85 SMG. Yes, it's virtually identical to the MP5, BUT the draw time significantly more. You've seen it right? Switch to it from another weapon and you'll see how freakin SLOW it takes for you to draw it and actually shoot. The only saving grace is its faster reload time. Whopee. So by far the MP5 and Type 85 are the worst weapons but the Type 85 takes the prize for the Worst Weapon in the Game.
    All the other weapons in the game can be debated forever. For every guy that says the L85A1/M95/G3 sucks, there's another guy saying how much they own. It all depends on skill and experience with the weapon. I know I can still kill people with the SMGs, especially the PP-19 with its larger magazine, and I find myself being a victim of a L85 alot so that should say something too. Now, whoever says any of the LMG support weapons suck, all I have to say is YOU SUCK. I can kick ass with ANY of them, but I have to say the PKM is the slowest one. It draws slow, has a slow rate of fire, and reload time is crazy slow. But the damage is VERY HIGH. The MG36 is my personal favorite for it's accuracy and VERY FAST reload time.
    Things will get interesting soon when they change the accuracy of some of the weapons. Who knows, the SMGs might not totally suck then!

P.S. For every jacksass that says the G3/M95/L85 sucks, you might as well argue that Pepsi is the better drink, the PS2 is the better system, and McDonald's is the better fast food joint. So shut up already.

Last edited by warco3 (2006-01-06 08:31:50)

RDMC_old
Member
+0|7155|Almere, Holland
ok.. most useless guns/ unlocks:

- G3
- Scar-l
- mp5

cant think of more at the moment
sith.law
Member
+0|7123
if i read the initial post correctly...........(yes i did), it says what do u think is most useless unlock/weapon...i guess there is an emphasis on YOU, therefore we all have opinions on what we like to use and what we hate. Fact is practically every weapon has had a yay or nay vote, some because they as Fahrenheit said, lack of skill hence the weapon to him was a wasted unlock....etc..cant understand why peeps is getting all defensive! I dont like the PKM, F2000, Scar-L.....not knocking them really its that i prefer the old unlocks, M95 i like and use. I just unlocked the G3 so cant say if i like it yet, not keen on the 20 clip seems a little low.....most of the unlocks are an upgrade, some of the SF ones are a trade off accuracy over power!....is it possible to kill someone with the zip line lol i.e. by firing it at someone?...will have to try lol

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