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There are fine curriculum that allow a reasonably intelligent parent to educate their children.

OrangeHound wrote:

usmarine wrote:

I tend to strongly agree with this line...

"On Feb. 28, Judge H. Walter Croskey of the Second District Court of Appeals in Los Angeles ruled that children ages six to 18 may be taught only by credentialed teachers in public or private schools - or at home by Mom and Dad, but only if they have a teaching degree."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080308/u … eschoolers

Why?

Because kids should be taught by people who are trained and licensed to teach......???????

I have a personal friend, her and her husband decided when their children were born, that they would home school them until time for high school.  Both of the parents mentioned that they felt the social interaction during high school was important for the children's development.  When the children reached high school age, they went.

Both children graduated early, with honors.
Both have gotten one degree at least.

My friend had no "proper" educational training, but, both her and her husband are intelligent people with common sense. 

I realize that home schooling wont turn out this way in every case, nor is it for everyone.  But it cannot and should not be ruled out.

Having known several teachers, I can tell you, just because they are "trained" and have a chunk of paper on the wall saying they can, in many cases, they simply shouldn't.
Teaching isn't all about the written rule, number or letter, its about caring as well.  If a teacher doesn't care, the students will suffer.
Show me a parent that is intelligent, and cares enough to even try home school, and they shall make a far more effective teacher, in a far more comfortable caring environment.

The student will thrive and succeed.

so I guess this means I tend to disagree with the highlighted statement...

the social aspect of school, many would argue, is much more instrumental to the educational experience and maturing experience than the actual books and papers themselves.

OrangeHound wrote:

Training and licensing does not make a teacher effective ... and, statistically, "trained and licensed" produces poorer students than homeschooling.

Same goes for drivers and CPA's.......but I would rather take my chances with a licensed on over a non-licensed one.

Ghandi767 wrote:

the social aspect of school, many would argue, is much more instrumental to the educational experience and maturing experience than the actual books and papers themselves.

But you can have the same social life when you're homeschooled.  You can still hang out, go see movies, go out to ea with friends, etc.  The only difference being you don't see any for six hours at the beginning of the day.

BlackKoala wrote:

Ghandi767 wrote:

the social aspect of school, many would argue, is much more instrumental to the educational experience and maturing experience than the actual books and papers themselves.

But you can have the same social life when you're homeschooled.  You can still hang out, go see movies, go out to ea with friends, etc.  The only difference being you don't see any for six hours at the beginning of the day.

You're much more likely to make friends if you go to school.

TC.Troy wrote:

I have a personal friend, her and her husband decided when their children were born, that they would home school them until time for high school.  Both of the parents mentioned that they felt the social interaction during high school was important for the children's development.  When the children reached high school age, they went.

Both children graduated early, with honors.
Both have gotten one degree at least.

My friend had no "proper" educational training, but, both her and her husband are intelligent people with common sense. 

I realize that home schooling wont turn out this way in every case, nor is it for everyone.  But it cannot and should not be ruled out.

Having known several teachers, I can tell you, just because they are "trained" and have a chunk of paper on the wall saying they can, in many cases, they simply shouldn't.
Teaching isn't all about the written rule, number or letter, its about caring as well.  If a teacher doesn't care, the students will suffer.
Show me a parent that is intelligent, and cares enough to even try home school, and they shall make a far more effective teacher, in a far more comfortable caring environment.

The student will thrive and succeed.

so I guess this means I tend to disagree with the highlighted statement...

My fiancée was home schooled from fourth grade and up. She never got to go to High School. Her mother called it "home schooling", but there was never really any schooling involved. "Home schooling" allowed this extremely bi-polar and paranoid woman to keep her daughter out of school with no academic substitute, leaving her with nothing but a fourth grade education.

She deperately wanted to get an education, and she managed to get her GED in a few months, and she's now in college working towards her Master's degree in Library Science, getting straight As. Home schooling is a blessing for the few, and hell for the many, but people on both sides of the fence can do well if they really want to.

Home schooling should always be regulated to prevent the abuse, though.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-03-09 11:30:14)

My friends kid was home schooled... He started going to regular school in 8th grade and was picked on and wasn't very good with dealing with others... I think homeschooling would be as good as regular school as long as the parents include interaction with the peers of the their child...

OrangeHound wrote:

usmarine wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Training and licensing does not make a teacher effective ... and, statistically, "trained and licensed" produces poorer students than homeschooling.

Same goes for drivers and CPA's.......but I would rather take my chances with a licensed on over a non-licensed one.

That's faulty logic.

Besides, the keys to quality education are (a) quality curriculum, (b) small class size, and (c) passion of the teacher ... licensing is just merely an agenda of the teacher's unions.

My kid's school scores on average are over one grade higher than the public schools on the standard achievement tests and, Fairfax County where I live, is renowned as one of the top school systems in the United States.  I think only one out of the dozen teachers in my kid's school is licensed.  But, they have class sizes in the range of 8-12 and very passionate teachers.

Public schools?  Class sizes around 30-35 and many teachers who just don't give a crap about anything other than their pension.

Well that logic is faulty.

What about some hilljack in west virginia keeping his kid out of school and teaching them god knows what?

usmarine wrote:

What about some hilljack in west virginia keeping his kid out of school and teaching them god knows what?

Pretty sure most home schoolers are not from west virginia.

usmarine wrote:

What about some hilljack in west virginia keeping his kid out of school and teaching them god knows what?

Suffice to say, I'd be willing to bet the average teacher in WV is a hilljack anyway.  There are quite a few ass-backward states in America, so I'm not really sure homeschooling makes a big difference either way in places like WV and Oklahoma.

Granted, there are areas of NC that are just as assbackwards.