Anything that doesn't leave a permanent scar is fine by me. Waterboard the fuckers all you want U.S. government.
I often wonder why we're so worried about the rights of those men who would gladly torture and decapitate us...Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Anything that doesn't leave a permanent scar is fine by me. Waterboard the fuckers all you want U.S. government.
That said, if you don't like extreme gargling, don't become a terrorist, it a fairly simple concept.
Make up your mind!Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Anything that doesn't leave a permanent scar is fine by me. Waterboard the fuckers all you want U.S. government.
wikipedia wrote:
Although waterboarding does not always cause lasting physical damage, it carries the risks of extreme pain, damage to the lungs, brain damage caused by oxygen deprivation, injuries (including broken bones) due to struggling against restraints, and even death. The psychological effects on victims of waterboarding can last for years after the procedure
It's disturbing how quick some of you nutjobs are to forget that Western nations used to pride themselves on being the pinnacle of humanity. On being above the inhumanity going on elsewhere.
If we adopt their methods, it's no longer peace and justice against intolerance and injustice. It's abusive ideology against abusive ideology. Personally, I'd perfer that we didn't criticise everyone else for practicing torture, while commiting it ourselves. There's a reason why we're criticising it in the first place.
If we adopt their methods, it's no longer peace and justice against intolerance and injustice. It's abusive ideology against abusive ideology. Personally, I'd perfer that we didn't criticise everyone else for practicing torture, while commiting it ourselves. There's a reason why we're criticising it in the first place.
good
tortue is tortue war is war they go hand in hand
its like were trying to fight war without the essentils of it.
were being to nice
its like were trying to fight war without the essentils of it.
were being to nice
Don't be surprised when the gov starts torturing you
Great post.mikkel wrote:
It's disturbing how quick some of you nutjobs are to forget that Western nations used to pride themselves on being the pinnacle of humanity. On being above the inhumanity going on elsewhere.
If we adopt their methods, it's no longer peace and justice against intolerance and injustice. It's abusive ideology against abusive ideology. Personally, I'd perfer that we didn't criticise everyone else for practicing torture, while commiting it ourselves. There's a reason why we're criticising it in the first place.
sux2beu if you're an enemy combatant or a "suspected terrorist" planing on killing innocent civilians. Do we really need to list all of the places these terrorist have hit around the world?
gargle, gargle
gargle, gargle
Huh? What government? Mine? Your's?Magpie wrote:
Don't be surprised when the gov starts torturing you
Posts like your's, with out much thought, really don't make any sense. They are made with the inference that you are just joining the discussion so people will know what side you stand on. What principal do you really stand on? Simply making a statement that you or I should be worried that "your" or "my" government might start torturing its citizens is pretty crazy. No abso-fuckinglutly crazy!
kMagpie wrote:
Don't be surprised when the gov starts torturing you
or maybe I just wont do anything wrong. seems to have worked well for me so far.
We both know thats total crap - we can go round this loop again if you like.FEOS wrote:
The only proven "torture" that has happened outside of the Abu Ghraib incident was the waterboarding of three internationally-recognized AQ major players. Three. In seven years. And not done by the military, but by the CIA. No proven incidents of torture at Club Gitmo, which is run by the military.
Gitmo - numerous examples of torture besides waterboarding.
Abu Ghraib - Routine torture and 'softening up', sometimes to death, carried out by the military and CIA - Remember the photos, dead bodies?
Bagram Air base - People tortured to death, maimed, mutilated etc. - proven.
Various other proven examples of torture at various US facilities around the world, plus the extensive network of torture sites the US sends its suspects to via rendition.
Honestly, I don't know why you repeat things you know to be untrue - Are you a CIA plant or what?
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thanks for your "facts"Dilbert_X wrote:
We both know thats total crap - we can go round this loop again if you like.FEOS wrote:
The only proven "torture" that has happened outside of the Abu Ghraib incident was the waterboarding of three internationally-recognized AQ major players. Three. In seven years. And not done by the military, but by the CIA. No proven incidents of torture at Club Gitmo, which is run by the military.
Gitmo - numerous examples of torture besides waterboarding.
Abu Ghraib - Routine torture and 'softening up', sometimes to death, carried out by the military and CIA
Bagram Air base - People tortured to death, maimed, mutilated etc. - proven.
Various other proven examples of torture at various US facilities around the world, plus the extensive network of torture sites the US sends its suspects to via rendition.
Honestly, I don't know why you repeat things you know to be untrue - Are you a CIA plant or what?
lulz
No worries, I'll put all the facts together, again.sumarine wrote:
thanks for your "facts"
Its hot here, I'm going for a swim, some beers and scope some girls.
In the meantime maybe you could put forward a single 'fact' ?
I know it would be a first for you but give it a try.
Fuck Israel
You are the one accusing, you give facts you dipshit.Dilbert_X wrote:
No worries, I'll put all the facts together, again.sumarine wrote:
thanks for your "facts"
Its hot here, I'm going for a swim, some beers and scope some girls.
In the meantime maybe you could put forward a single 'fact' ?
I know it would be a first for you but give it a try.
wiki me baby!!!!!!!
Way to Go Dubya! How to win the War on terror... can't beat 'em join 'em.
What a useless tit.
What a useless tit.
join em? Show me where we cut off heads and burn peoples bodies...or hang them from bridges as a form of torture?ReTox wrote:
Way to Go Dubya! How to win the War on terror... can't beat 'em join 'em.
What a useless tit.
I guess that was wishful thinking on my part.Me wrote:
In the meantime maybe you could put forward a single 'fact' ?
I know it would be a first for you but give it a try.
No worries - A quick trawl through your congressional minutes should be enough.usbabykiller wrote:
You are the one accusing, you give facts you dipshit.
Bottom line is your Presiduhnt is overriding the will of your congress and thereby the will of the US people to promote torture which is a war crime.
What is wrong with this retard you identify so closely with?
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Fuck Israel
usbabykiller?Dilbert_X wrote:
I guess that was wishful thinking on my part.Me wrote:
In the meantime maybe you could put forward a single 'fact' ?
I know it would be a first for you but give it a try.No worries - A quick trawl through your congressional minutes should be enough.usbabykiller wrote:
You are the one accusing, you give facts you dipshit.
Bottom line is your Presiduhnt is overriding the will of your congress and thereby the will of the US people.
What is wrong with this retard you identify so closely with?
Here you go again. Apparently bubbalo was raped by m3thod and he gave birth to dilbert.
The Marines do have a history of raping little girls and murdering civilians.usbabykiller?
Say it isn't so.
Fuck Israel
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Three, five years ago.. waterboarding has not been used since 2003 and has been specifically prohibited since Gen. Michael Hayden took over as CIA director.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/200 … only-.html
I understand the matter of principle point but I would be more concerned with the lack of habeas corpus if I was under suspicion of terrorism.
Three, five years ago.. waterboarding has not been used since 2003 and has been specifically prohibited since Gen. Michael Hayden took over as CIA director.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/200 … only-.html
I understand the matter of principle point but I would be more concerned with the lack of habeas corpus if I was under suspicion of terrorism.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
So do humans.Dilbert_X wrote:
The Marines do have a history of raping little girls and murdering civilians.usbabykiller?
Say it isn't so.
The US is only going down a slippery slope once it condones water torture. If a new method is developed, and found to be more "persuasive" what's to stop it from occuring? It gets results. Who cares if the guy in question goes through hell?usmarine wrote:
join em? Show me where we cut off heads and burn peoples bodies...or hang them from bridges as a form of torture?ReTox wrote:
Way to Go Dubya! How to win the War on terror... can't beat 'em join 'em.
What a useless tit.
Water "torture" (laugh) is not even close to chopping off a head.TheAussieReaper wrote:
The US is only going down a slippery slope once it condones water torture. If a new method is developed, and found to be more "persuasive" what's to stop it from occuring? It gets results. Who cares if the guy in question goes through hell?usmarine wrote:
join em? Show me where we cut off heads and burn peoples bodies...or hang them from bridges as a form of torture?ReTox wrote:
Way to Go Dubya! How to win the War on terror... can't beat 'em join 'em.
What a useless tit.
Western nations have never been the pinnacle of humanity. We're just saner than our poorer colleagues.mikkel wrote:
It's disturbing how quick some of you nutjobs are to forget that Western nations used to pride themselves on being the pinnacle of humanity. On being above the inhumanity going on elsewhere.
If we adopt their methods, it's no longer peace and justice against intolerance and injustice. It's abusive ideology against abusive ideology. Personally, I'd perfer that we didn't criticise everyone else for practicing torture, while commiting it ourselves. There's a reason why we're criticising it in the first place.
Still, we live in a fucked up world that occasionally requires fucked up methods to deal with people far more fucked up than we are.