BF2S Forums Israel Needs the Palestinian Extremists

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Read again, I never said the opportunity to retaliate but not to negotiate a peace deal which would give the Palestinians sovereignty over the OT's.  Nowhere I said Israel is evil.  And I never justified the extremists.  Go write a novel.

oh, so thats an elaboration?  looks more like you telling him he is wrong, not why he is wrong.  I happen to agree with his post.  You arent looking at this objectively.

He said I was saying Israel was evil and that Israel needed Hamas to retaliate.  Nowhere in my post it said that.  Read again the OP.  I happen to disagree with you.  You aren't looking at this objectively.

Answer to OP: No, they don't want palestinian terrorists, neither do they need them. The international community doesn't 100% support Israel either.

And this is such a lovely 'debate' going on here.

sergeriver wrote:

Bagel_Bites wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Do you have reading comprehension issues?  He said I was saying Israel was evil and that Israel needed Hamas to retaliate.  Nowhere in my post it said that.  Read again the OP.  I happen to disagree with you.  You aren't looking at this objectively.

No, I said your post suggests that you believe that Israel is inherently evil. You are trying to argue that Israel actually wants Palestinian extremists attacking their country. This means that there is literally no way to have this debate with you because you twist anything that can be argued in Israel's favor against them. Yet here you are talking about objectivity. I think this is silliness (or trolling) and therefore know better than to waste any more time than I already have in this thread.

Don't waste it and go away.

this reply easily proved my point, thanks serge

lol.  so far all you have done is insult me instead of argue the points that I brought up or the ones bagel bites brought up.  typical. good job, keep it up.


and I didnt prove anything, you did. talk about reading comprehension.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2008-03-14 07:20:20)

not in this thread.  I dont even know wtf a troll is.

sergeriver wrote:

If you think about it, Israel doesn't want the extremists to stop throwing rockets into their land.  In fact, these fuckers are the perfect excuse to keep things the same way.  If Palestinian extremists stopped throwing rockets into Israel, then Israel would have to sign a peace deal, recognizing the sovereignty of Palestine and it would have to withdraw from the OT's, settlers included of course.

No......Shit

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

not in this thread.  I dont even know wtf a troll is.

Take a look in a mirror and you'll find out.

yet you have yet to hit the points that were brought up.  serge, all you do is make threads (stupid polls)  that you dont even care about. You notice how most of your posts involve flames and insults, never on the OPs you start.   Lets not forget about all your revenge threads too.

lets look at this thread for an example, most of your replies here have nothing to do with israel or palestine, just with other bf2 members and how stupid they are compared to you.  grow up dude.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2008-03-14 07:30:53)

sergeriver wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

If you think about it, Israel doesn't want the extremists to stop throwing rockets into their land.  In fact, these fuckers are the perfect excuse to keep things the same way.  If Palestinian extremists stopped throwing rockets into Israel, then Israel would have to sign a peace deal, recognizing the sovereignty of Palestine and it would have to withdraw from the OT's, settlers included of course.

No......Shit

So far nobody proved me wrong, just babbling.

Hmm, I'm agreeing with you believe it or not.

Sergeriver wrote:

If you think about it, Israel doesn't want the extremists to stop throwing rockets into their land.  In fact, these fuckers are the perfect excuse to keep things the same way.  If Palestinian extremists stopped throwing rockets into Israel, then Israel would have to sign a peace deal, recognizing the sovereignty of Palestine and it would have to withdraw from the OT's, settlers included of course.

How much time do you think would the IDF take going into Gaza and hunting the Extremists?  Instead of doing that, they build Berlin walls and checkpoints all around Palestine.  Israel knows these assholes won't stop.  Ever.  And they don't seem worry about it.  In fact, they seem pretty comfortable with the idea.  As long as these nutters keep attacking their land, Israel will receive the support of the international community, specially the US.  Israel needs them in order to be the victim.  Meanwhile, the real victims live in those concentration camps called Palestine.

Ofcourse Israel would want the palestinian extremists to stop throwing rockets in their lands, nobody likes getting their people killed. Hell if the IDF could, the terrorists would be exterminated long ago, they can't because of the international pressure Israel would get if they made some 'dramatic steps', and because these terrorists are hiding behind the innocents inside gaza aswell - this means civilian casualties are near impossible to prevent.

A peace deal is what the international community wants to get signed, though neither Israel nor Palestine seem to want this, whenever it's brought up both side starts doing attacks again (and in most cases coming from the palestinian terrorists.) If a peacedeal would be signed, Israel would still hold it's international support, there's no need for terrorists throwing rockets in to your lands in order to get supported.

The real victims are the innocents which the terrorists target, and the people which they use for cover, mainly the palestinians in Gaza.

Now tell me, how should Israel solve their situations, the 'concentration camps in palestine' are oftenly the places out of which terrorists bomb Israel, and sure as hell they won't stop even if these territories are given back.

FEOS wrote:

As I've said many times: the Palestinians' worst enemies are the militants.

Just to clarify: This does not mean that I agree the Israelis want or need to have their civilians attacked regularly.

sergeriver wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

If you think about it, Israel doesn't want the extremists to stop throwing rockets into their land.  In fact, these fuckers are the perfect excuse to keep things the same way.  If Palestinian extremists stopped throwing rockets into Israel, then Israel would have to sign a peace deal, recognizing the sovereignty of Palestine and it would have to withdraw from the OT's, settlers included of course.

No......Shit

So far nobody proved me wrong, just babling.

I reckon that if rockets stopped coming over the border, the IDF would prodominantly guard the border rather than heading in to take out the rocket sites. The Israelis probably recognise Palestine, they pushed for peace deals. Its the Pals that won't agree with them or in that case acknowledge Israel's right to be there.