soldevilla13
SuperFly
+21|7149|oregon

IRONCHEF wrote:

PeoNinja wrote:

Then what missionaries do? What did the christians that discovered America taught those savages they found all over here?
Well, I was a missionary for two years in Brazil, and I never crammed anything down anyone's throat.  I had people coming to me asking for teachings.  I contacted and made friends with people in the streets daily, got invited to their homes, taught them our beliefs, asked them to find out for themselves if what I was saying was true or not, and if they wished to continue, we continued visiting/teaching/inviting them to make important life changes, etc. 

I wouldn't call the early christians "christian" just like I wouldn't call bush a christian.
well then obviously thats our misunderstanding chef, you might be a great christian and all, but judeo-christian religions encompass thousands of smaller religions, some violent, some just incredibly annoying about advertising there beliefs.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6895
how the fuck is this DST?
soldevilla13
SuperFly
+21|7149|oregon
just let it happen... just let it happen...

hah
HSG
Member
+23|6901|British Columbia, Canada

madmurre wrote:

I always knew Satan where the good guy.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire

HSG wrote:

madmurre wrote:

I always knew Satan where the good guy.
Satan does have all the best tunes too.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6918|Northern California

soldevilla13 wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

PeoNinja wrote:

Then what missionaries do? What did the christians that discovered America taught those savages they found all over here?
Well, I was a missionary for two years in Brazil, and I never crammed anything down anyone's throat.  I had people coming to me asking for teachings.  I contacted and made friends with people in the streets daily, got invited to their homes, taught them our beliefs, asked them to find out for themselves if what I was saying was true or not, and if they wished to continue, we continued visiting/teaching/inviting them to make important life changes, etc. 

I wouldn't call the early christians "christian" just like I wouldn't call bush a christian.
well then obviously thats our misunderstanding chef, you might be a great christian and all, but judeo-christian religions encompass thousands of smaller religions, some violent, some just incredibly annoying about advertising there beliefs.
Haha, if I was a great christian, I wouldn't be using the language, rudeness, or insults I use on these boards...something I'll answer to eventually.

As for your notion that judeo-christianity encompasses thousands of sects, both violent and non, intrusive and not, I'd add that it's not necessarily the "religions" that piss people off, but the adherents to those religions that get our goats.  I had missionary companions that thought too highly of themselves and that was reflected in our work unfortunately...he'd be too quick to judge investigators of our teachings, or be too impatient, etc.  In short, judge righteously that ye be not judged (if i may so plagiarize)...ie., judge the adherent's poor behavior and attribute it to them, not their religion necessarily.  Of course, there are religions that teach outright evil, such should obviously be judged upon discovery.


DoctaStrangelove wrote:

how the fuck is this DST?
Hmmmm, I don't know, perhaps it's in the 4 friggen pages of dialog on topic with the OP?

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GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071
no, the religions are what piss people off.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6918|Northern California

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

no, the religions are what piss people off.
"You have chosen...poorly."
https://images.livescience.com/images/top10_immortals_grail_knight.jpg

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GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071
ok, well it is the religions that piss ME, and I happen to believe that others share that sentiment.   now try to have me shrivel up into a 1000 year old mummy.
Jimbo145
Resident Pimp
+15|6696|Upstate Noo Yawk
Wow, I didn't know God was so good at battlefield. He even has more kills than Huellia!

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clogar
damn ain't it great to be a laxer
+32|6383|Minnesota

soldevilla13 wrote:

why do judeo-christian religions all have to impose their will upon every person on earth? can't you get the hint that nobody fucking cares who isn't in your religion? dont you get that you are terrible people by making "infidels" and "non-believers" feel bad about themselves for not joining your cult? I am completely fine with religious people who don't have to say that everyone else is going to die, but those who do impose their religion on others (more specifically their religion's punishment) are what is wrong with the world. You create incredible amounts of friction, discent, and hatred and it's all for nothing. You can talk about someone's morals without condemning them to eternal pain and suffering....


GET A LIFE!!! stop being cowards and hiding under the authority that is your religion and step out into the world.


keep your shit to yourself, and if you dont, dont damn everyone else to hell, its just gay.
um i'm pretty sure everyone knows death is inevitable, we just believe in stuff after death (not a new concept). i have never heard a Christian call anyone who isn't an infidel, pretty sure thats an islamic thing. i actually don't live in the comfort of some suburban la-la land in fact in live in the inner city... anyone ever heard of murderapolis? and i know a ton of Christians who live there as well so i don't think we all are hiding from the world.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7270|Alberta, Canada

Wow, that graph looks very professional, and seems to be from a very reliable source.
SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|7065|Amsterdam, NY

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

ok, well it is the religions that piss ME, and I happen to believe that others share that sentiment.   now try to have me shrivel up into a 1000 year old mummy.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire

Ryan wrote:

Wow, that graph looks very professional, and seems to be from a very reliable source.
Let's be fair now, the Bible isn't known for it's outstanding bibliography or appendices either!
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7059|949

God is doG backwards.

God isn't racist, he supposedly kills everything eventually, in a simplistic view of physical death.

I just had something really long and thought provoking that I was going to type, but I guess I'll save it for another day.  It's hard for me to express philosophical ideas on this forum
grimreapere
Member
+1|6660
when the bible wAS made for understanding man wants you see what man wants you to see....
the devil can kiss my ass...........blacks are racist more than whites-----prove me wrong--
most in prison are blacks--fact.............slavery ended get over it-----get jobs stop living under welfare
you lazies beep beep-------example   2 black kids 12-14 robbed a lady in a police station what fn retards
fact see it in the news......................................................everyone is racist-----------baCK OFF GOD
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire

grimreapere wrote:

when the bible wAS made for understanding man wants you see what man wants you to see....
the devil can kiss my ass...........blacks are racist more than whites-----prove me wrong--
most in prison are blacks--fact.............slavery ended get over it-----get jobs stop living under welfare
you lazies beep beep-------example   2 black kids 12-14 robbed a lady in a police station what fn retards
fact see it in the news......................................................everyone is racist-----------baCK OFF GOD
Give me a crowd of angry, black criminals over this punctuation any day.
clogar
damn ain't it great to be a laxer
+32|6383|Minnesota

grimreapere wrote:

when the bible wAS made for understanding man wants you see what man wants you to see....
the devil can kiss my ass...........blacks are racist more than whites-----prove me wrong--
most in prison are blacks--fact.............slavery ended get over it-----get jobs stop living under welfare
you lazies beep beep-------example   2 black kids 12-14 robbed a lady in a police station what fn retards
fact see it in the news......................................................everyone is racist-----------baCK OFF GOD
i see you're a wonderful example of Christianity
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6918|Northern California
Ok folks, here's the skinny...


Adam and Eve, in the garden, given duties to name everything, be fruitful and multiply.  They were immortal in their paradisiacal state...they could not die.  In order to have children, or be "fruitful," they had to have the traits of mortality in them in order to procreate.  They couldn't procreate because they didn't know passion most likely.  Eve, the wise one, "used" Lucifer by partaking of the fruit of good and evil which he was tempting her with, and by partaking, she knew good from evil, virtue and vice, pleasure and pain.  She could discern for the first time.  But she could now have kids and she could now die.  SHe would also be cast out of the garden and therefore went to Adam and had him partake of the fruit so he too could fulfill the command given them, and so he wouldn't be left alone in the garden once Eve was cast out.  He partook and also became mortal, knowing good from evil, etc, etc..and "death entered the world" -- meaning that we would get old, decay, and die as planned so as to move on.  Paul wrote, "as in adam all die, so in christ, shall all be made alive!"  Make sense now?  Because of Adam and the fall (a transgression, not a sin as many would think because he didn't know good from evil yet), we were now able to start coming down to earth to dwell in these tabernacles of clay, have our own families, and die, and then be judged and then glorified and live again with God in our new, immortal and perfected state, etc, etc.

So that is the purpose of death, it's origin, and how it should be perceived...an inevitable consequence to Adam and Eve's wise choices in the garden to which Christ paid the price for us to resurrect and be immortal, and have the chance to live with God forever.

Got it, ok good.  It's the truth whether you believe it or not...and you'll go to hell if you don't believe it...just kidding..couldn't resist! lol
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7102|Canberra, AUS

grimreapere wrote:

when the bible wAS made for understanding man wants you see what man wants you to see....
the devil can kiss my ass...........blacks are racist more than whites-----prove me wrong--
most in prison are blacks--fact.............slavery ended get over it-----get jobs stop living under welfare
you lazies beep beep-------example   2 black kids 12-14 robbed a lady in a police station what fn retards
fact see it in the news......................................................everyone is racist-----------baCK OFF GOD
O.o

Can't get more whacked then that.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
mudder
Member
+8|6953
From the graph and statement we can take that you believe that a God/Devil both exists. If you believe in these two then their really is no death anymore right?  I mean you either go to heaven and frolic and worship for eternity or you go to hell and suffer for eternity.  either way "you" as a conscious thing are still around thinking about stuff. So if people can't "really" die then their can not be murder.    I don't believe in any of it, wish-full thinking.
PS I always wondered in a couple thousand years if people will laugh at Christians, Muslims, etc. like we do at mythology.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7133
God just has a better internet connection...
[FUB] kuspis.kAzZutin
Member
+1|6337|.........?

jord wrote:

God is a DJ.


Life is a dancefloor.
God is an asshole.

And we are little dildos going in the asshole. LOL say to me : '' You're immature ''

Life is full of emotions and bs
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7119|Calgary

OrangeHound wrote:

If you ever read the Bible, you would discover that God kills everyone ...
Just the body, not the soul. Plus, everybody who got wacked in the bible got a fair warning. Fair is fair man.
bakinacake
HA HA
+383|6413|Aus, Qld
How can God be racist if he made us all?

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