Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7014|Toronto | Canada

I think it looks pretty cool.  I consider it an advancement in technology, its helping us move forward in making everything electronics smaller and lighter. 
My dad is opening up a computer store pretty soon and has a Mac license so hopefully I'll get to play around with one if he can get one in.  For me, the DVD drive issue isnt really a problem.  On my main computer it took me over 4 months to realize my DVD drive was broken, and 2 months later I still haven't replaced it... I just never really find a need for it.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6895|Mhz

kylef wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

for the same price you could get a decent desktop replacement gaming laptop, USB HDD I'll grant you but that does kinda kill the portability aspect of it (the whole reason it's so thin).

EDIT: Spazzy typing.
Does kill the portability aspect totally, yes Although I'm glad you see the reason why it is so thin. lol - that was kind of weird. I saw your post, then quoted it and this "EDIT: Spazzy typing" appeared and I was like "..did I do that?"
lol, I'm playing with your miiiind.

Still the argument will go on for eternity with the whole pro/anti mac air thing, if it does what you and your brother need it to then that's what matters, personally I'd never even consider buying one, the limitations would infuriate me within about 10 mins and it's price tag is quite scary, this coming from a guy who got called stupid for spending £100 on a pair of jeans

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2008-03-15 09:54:47)

Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6743
No CD, no USB, no Ethernet, no nothing.

Is it even possible to do ANYTHING on that stupid thing?
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6880|Greenwood, IN

kylef wrote:

Naturn wrote:

I really don't think its worth its hype...  Don't get me wrong Apple produces quality computers but I would never in my life pay that much money for so little performance.  Its just no economical...  you could get a Windows based notebook with all the bells and whistles and can play most games on high for the same price.
It's not running XP / Vista. It's built to run OSX, and OSX is built to run on macs. They go hand in hand for performance and maximum power available. Macs aren't built for gaming.

Naturn wrote:

I still think Apple should stick to regular computers and notebooks.
You'd prefer it if Sony or something made the thinnest laptop? lol, why?
I think you missed the point of my comment.  If you brother has the money to blow then yea by all means buy it.  But you can buy a Windows based not book that can do the same thing as a Mac and be just as small and light for far less.  Its all about the price to performance ratio.  But, I guess if you want to look and look good good for the ladies by all means get one.  In the end I don't think it was one of Apples best "innovations".

Mac: Good
iPhone: Great
iPod: Good
Macbook: Good
Macbook Air: Bad

But hey i've bought stupid things I did'nt need before and had to learn my lesson the hard way.

- Naturn

Last edited by Naturn (2008-03-15 10:00:16)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6768|N. Ireland

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

No CD
You can get a Superdrive for it if you like

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

no USB
Umm..learning the specs of the thing might be handy before posting? It does have USB..


DoctaStrangelove wrote:

, no Ethernet, no nothing.
Ethernet is becoming popularly outdated with decent wireless. Also, a laptop is built for portability so it sort of breaks the point if have an Ethernet port. Also, it'd make it twice as thick. Although I'm sure USB > Ethernet adapters exist if you *really* want.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Is it even possible to do ANYTHING on that stupid thing?
Yes.
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|6852|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Yeah, but what we all really want to know is:






Does it work well as a frisbie?
Nah, the real question you have to ask yourself is... Will it blend?
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6768|N. Ireland

Naturn wrote:

I think you missed the point of my comment.  If you brother has the money to blow then yea by all means buy it.  But you can buy a Windows based not book that can do the same thing as a Mac and be just as small and light for far less.  Its all about the price to performance ratio.  But, I guess if you want to look and look good good for the ladies by all means get one.  In the end I don't think it was one of Apples best "innovations".

Mac: Good
iPhone: Great
iPod: Good
Macbook: Good
Macbook Air: Bad

But hey i've bought stupid things I did'nt need before and had to learn my lesson the hard way.

- Naturn
Definetely misinterpreted your post then. He did have the money to 'blow' although he rarely spends anything on anything! Windows? People like different operating systems and my brother vastly prefers OSX (Leopard is stunning, by the way!) - I just happen to prefer Vista as I'm a bit of a gamer and have grown accustomed to Windows.

lol, I know the feeling on that! Although I tend to buy very little now.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6880|Greenwood, IN

kylef wrote:

Definetely misinterpreted your post then. He did have the money to 'blow' although he rarely spends anything on anything! Windows? People like different operating systems and my brother vastly prefers OSX (Leopard is stunning, by the way!) - I just happen to prefer Vista as I'm a bit of a gamer and have grown accustomed to Windows.

lol, I know the feeling on that! Although I tend to buy very little now.
I guess i'm more bashing Apple than you and your brother.  They are marketing a so called computer for $2000 when it don't have anything to offer but being light.  But, I guess thats how they make their money.
Dauntless
Admin
+2,249|7017|London

kylef wrote:

You can get a Superdrive for it if you like

kylef wrote:

Although I'm sure USB > Ethernet adapters exist if you *really* want.

kylef wrote:

USB hard drive sitting about 2 feet from me
But if you have to carry all that stuff around with it, it defeats the point of a "portable" laptop, you might as well get one that's a few centimeters thicker with everything already in it?

But I guess the main thing is he likes it so good for him.
https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6768|N. Ireland
I don't see *why* you would have to carry that stuff around though. Wired is used in the home, not away. I can maybe understand the CD drive, but definetely not the USB hard drive as frankly, the size of the hard drive is...alright.

Although I'm glad you see that he likes it and that's what matters
SEREMAKER
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ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6924

kylef wrote:

Naturn wrote:

I think you missed the point of my comment.  If you brother has the money to blow then yea by all means buy it.  But you can buy a Windows based not book that can do the same thing as a Mac and be just as small and light for far less.  Its all about the price to performance ratio.  But, I guess if you want to look and look good good for the ladies by all means get one.  In the end I don't think it was one of Apples best "innovations".

Mac: Good
iPhone: Great
iPod: Good
Macbook: Good
Macbook Air: Bad

But hey i've bought stupid things I did'nt need before and had to learn my lesson the hard way.

- Naturn
Definetely misinterpreted your post then. He did have the money to 'blow' although he rarely spends anything on anything! Windows? People like different operating systems and my brother vastly prefers OSX (Leopard is stunning, by the way!) - I just happen to prefer Vista as I'm a bit of a gamer and have grown accustomed to Windows.

lol, I know the feeling on that! Although I tend to buy very little now.
My point is though, if you like Apple stuff and OSX and want a laptop, get a MacBook Pro. Why buy something so stupidly impractical because it's slightly thinner? I have yet to meet anyone that has issues moving a regular laptop around.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6768|N. Ireland

ghettoperson wrote:

My point is though, if you like Apple stuff and OSX and want a laptop, get a MacBook Pro. Why buy something so stupidly impractical because it's slightly thinner? I have yet to meet anyone that has issues moving a regular laptop around.
Minimum MacBook Pro size is 15" though.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6472|Winland

kylef wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

My point is though, if you like Apple stuff and OSX and want a laptop, get a MacBook Pro. Why buy something so stupidly impractical because it's slightly thinner? I have yet to meet anyone that has issues moving a regular laptop around.
Minimum MacBook Pro size is 15" though.
Yeah, Steve Jobs has got some issues with size...
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Madhadda1
Member
+270|6820|Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Would anybody mind explaining to me why one would buy one of these? i see no pro's to this, not to mention i dont see how this is a "step into the future".  (Serious question, im amazed people actually want these, am i missing somthing?)
Tetn1s
Member
+59|6917|Los Angeles
Mac: Good for multimedia, Horrible for Gaming
iPhone: Horrible (waste of money)
iPod: Good, I guess
Macbook: Good for mulitmedia, portable.
Macbook Air: Horrible (waste of money)
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7118|Alberta, Canada

Madhadda1 wrote:

Would anybody mind explaining to me why one would buy one of these? i see no pro's to this, not to mention i dont see how this is a "step into the future".  (Serious question, im amazed people actually want these, am i missing somthing?)
One reason: It's thin.

People think it's like SlimFast or something, but they are too stupid to figure out that just because it's thin, doesn't mean they will be.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6236|Washington DC

Ryan wrote:

Madhadda1 wrote:

Would anybody mind explaining to me why one would buy one of these? i see no pro's to this, not to mention i dont see how this is a "step into the future".  (Serious question, im amazed people actually want these, am i missing somthing?)
One reason: It's thin.

People think it's like SlimFast or something, but they are too stupid to figure out that just because it's thin, doesn't mean they will be.
wat
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7118|Alberta, Canada

HurricaИe wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Madhadda1 wrote:

Would anybody mind explaining to me why one would buy one of these? i see no pro's to this, not to mention i dont see how this is a "step into the future".  (Serious question, im amazed people actually want these, am i missing somthing?)
One reason: It's thin.

People think it's like SlimFast or something, but they are too stupid to figure out that just because it's thin, doesn't mean they will be.
wat
idonno.
djphetal
Go Ducks.
+346|6611|Oregon
it feels like a girl scout cookie. seriously, that was my first reaction to feeling the case.
Defiance
Member
+438|6946

kylef wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

No CD
You can get a Superdrive for it if you like

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

no USB
Umm..learning the specs of the thing might be handy before posting? It does have USB..


DoctaStrangelove wrote:

, no Ethernet, no nothing.
Ethernet is becoming popularly outdated with decent wireless. Also, a laptop is built for portability so it sort of breaks the point if have an Ethernet port. Also, it'd make it twice as thick. Although I'm sure USB > Ethernet adapters exist if you *really* want.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Is it even possible to do ANYTHING on that stupid thing?
Yes.
1. Why use an external drive for what should be a portable system?

2. One is good, I didn't expect much more heart from something so focused on the body, but it's at least something...

3. ..besides, it's only there for USB ethernet adapter which I couldn't discern if you have to buy separately or not. If I had the choice, I'd use ethernet any day. Though, since it is mobile the included wifi makes up for it 95%. However, that takes away it's ease of use at a workdesk (ie, no way to use a dock and no way in hell you'll be using this thing to go from work to home so now what's the point of it but sitting in a Starbucks writing your "next big novel" to look cool?) and when on a ethernet network you cannot use a USB drive. You would have to swap them. Or a cd drive, or a USB cup heater. Blasphemy.

4. It's possible to run Pi calculations while it's being flung through the air at, either a dog to catch or a wall.

Ryan wrote:

Madhadda1 wrote:

Would anybody mind explaining to me why one would buy one of these? i see no pro's to this, not to mention i dont see how this is a "step into the future".  (Serious question, im amazed people actually want these, am i missing somthing?)
One reason: It's thin.

People think it's like SlimFast or something, but they are too stupid to figure out that just because it's thin, doesn't mean they will be.
I've seen a lot of these stupid MB Air commercials and I can't remember any insinuations towards that. No, it's like making the iPod white. People like white, it's a simple color and goes well with a lot of hip and trendy outfits (clearly) so people walk around with them. However, I can remember hearing people talk about who's laptop is thinner, before the Air came out. People think "If it's a good laptop, then it's small" because people associate laptops with size and portability. However the converse of that, "If it's small it's a good laptop," is far.. so very far from true.

Last edited by Defiance (2008-03-15 11:51:28)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6896|London, England

kylef wrote:

.. and frankly, all this "no ports" "no cd drive" "it sucks" comments just go away once you use it for more than 10 minutes in a home environment. He upgraded from a MacBook and I'll try and get pict0rs as soon as possible.

They are simply stunning. Big kudos to Apple. Big kudos.

PS. You can't get an impression of its thinness (or "Thinnovation!") until you see it in real life.
fail
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6743

kylef wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

No CD
You can get a Superdrive for it if you like

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

no USB
Umm..learning the specs of the thing might be handy before posting? It does have USB..


DoctaStrangelove wrote:

, no Ethernet, no nothing.
Ethernet is becoming popularly outdated with decent wireless. Also, a laptop is built for portability so it sort of breaks the point if have an Ethernet port. Also, it'd make it twice as thick. Although I'm sure USB > Ethernet adapters exist if you *really* want.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Is it even possible to do ANYTHING on that stupid thing?
Yes.
Sorry, I thought is didn't have any USB, although only one port is pretty pathetic considering everything uses USB these day.

But still it cannot do many things that a computer really should do. No CD drive is a huge downside, as is no ethernet. The only plus side to it is its size.

You pay $1800 for a shitty computer just because it's small. Apple really are marketing towards rich idiots.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6667|Southern California

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I fail to see the point of a super-thin thing. I mean, as long as it's light, it's mobile. Only thing that's gonna change with it being super-thin is it's ability to break.

You could squish in so much more pweformace in a twice/trice as thick thing, still keeping it at about the same weight.
Ehhh I see it as being a good thing to have on the market.

What I would really like to see is a a tablet PC get down to that size. Laptops are portable but they could be more portable. Sure it seems unnecessary now, but how awesome and portable was the Zach Morris cell when it first came out? how could you want it more convenient?

I'm not gonna buy this one, but hopefully others do...Then more competition can come out and prices can come down/performance go up.

No CD is kind of a bummer...But it all depends on the distribution of software. I don't know much about Macs, but there is much less 3rd party stuff isn't there? If Mac can put any software you might possibly want to buy up for download it isn't much of a big deal. Most people who start using programs with Steam don't mind converting to purchasing digital copies.


Ethernet port...Who cares? You don't...you just like to complain about apple.
Who carries an Ethernet cable around? Its much harder to find a place to plug in an Ethernet cable then to find a signal. The local Jack in the box has wifi...The entire US city of San Jose has wifi....
How many places have an open ethernet jack for you?
avman633
Member
+116|6639

SEREMAKER wrote:

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