Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

What's the best way to play 1080p on a rather slow machine? Like, some super-optimized media player or something. Just curious, since it'd be leet to use my lappy (Pentium M 1.6GHz, Radeon 9200 64MB, 512MB) for HD playback when I get the projector Like, have the docking station plugged in and just ka-chunk the computer onto there.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
henno13
A generally unremarkable member
+230|6622|Belfast
i have a radeon 9200 256mb

i want to kill myself
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6727|The Twilight Zone
My HTPC specs: 3500, 7600GT, 2gb RAM. TV is 720p and video is very smooth.
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6841|NYC / Hamburg

coreAVC seems to be best for x264 encoded movies
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

Atm, there isn't really any good Blu-ray software for PCs, which is why a lot of people are waiting with building HTPCs.


As for a low spec PC like that, I have no idea. There is some decent HD software out there, but I'm pretty sure it'll crash your PC
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

.Sup wrote:

My HTPC specs: 3500, 7600GT, 2gb RAM. TV is 720p and video is very smooth.
1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

My HTPC specs: 3500, 7600GT, 2gb RAM. TV is 720p and video is very smooth.
1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
I actually prefer purchasing movies.

Guaranteed highest quality possible, no need for Burning, etc.
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Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6855|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

What's the best way to play 1080p on a rather slow machine? Like, some super-optimized media player or something. Just curious, since it'd be leet to use my lappy (Pentium M 1.6GHz, Radeon 9200 64MB, 512MB) for HD playback when I get the projector Like, have the docking station plugged in and just ka-chunk the computer onto there.
No chance of running 1080p content smoothly on that rig. Not with proper audio.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-22 15:31:32)

max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6841|NYC / Hamburg

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

My HTPC specs: 3500, 7600GT, 2gb RAM. TV is 720p and video is very smooth.
1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
I actually prefer purchasing movies.

Guaranteed highest quality possible, no need for Burning, etc.
1080p .mkv x264 rips played back though a HTPC ftw!
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

max wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
I actually prefer purchasing movies.

Guaranteed highest quality possible, no need for Burning, etc.
1080p .mkv x264 rips played back though a HTPC ftw!
sure, but my rig doesn't have HDMI or Optical Audio.
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6841|NYC / Hamburg

Jenspm wrote:

max wrote:

Jenspm wrote:


I actually prefer purchasing movies.

Guaranteed highest quality possible, no need for Burning, etc.
1080p .mkv x264 rips played back though a HTPC ftw!
sure, but my rig doesn't have HDMI or Optical Audio.
well you can use a DVI --> HDMI adapter and a decent soundcard
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

What's the best way to play 1080p on a rather slow machine? Like, some super-optimized media player or something. Just curious, since it'd be leet to use my lappy (Pentium M 1.6GHz, Radeon 9200 64MB, 512MB) for HD playback when I get the projector Like, have the docking station plugged in and just ka-chunk the computer onto there.
No chance of running 1080p content smoothly on that rig. Not with proper audio.
I just did... Full HD, scaled down to 1280p width, stereo sound. If it'll do it without scaling down on the projector remains a mystery until I get it.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6855|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

What's the best way to play 1080p on a rather slow machine? Like, some super-optimized media player or something. Just curious, since it'd be leet to use my lappy (Pentium M 1.6GHz, Radeon 9200 64MB, 512MB) for HD playback when I get the projector Like, have the docking station plugged in and just ka-chunk the computer onto there.
No chance of running 1080p content smoothly on that rig. Not with proper audio.
I just did... Full HD, scaled down to 1280p width, stereo sound. If it'll do it without scaling down on the projector remains a mystery until I get it.
Well that's not even close to 1080p with proper sound then is it.

That's 720p, with stereo audio. BIG difference. 2.25x lower quality video and (I'm guessing here, 192kbps opposed to say 768kbps for DTS or 448 for AC3). It's a big difference.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6727|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

My HTPC specs: 3500, 7600GT, 2gb RAM. TV is 720p and video is very smooth.
1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
well then look at my "laggy videos" thread. Thats a full 1080i with a 8800GT 512 and a 2x 3000mhz processor. I only get 28 fps. I think that answers your question doesn't it?
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Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6855|SE London

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

My HTPC specs: 3500, 7600GT, 2gb RAM. TV is 720p and video is very smooth.
1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
well then look at my "laggy videos" thread. Thats a full 1080i with a 8800GT 512 and a 2x 3000mhz processor. I only get 28 fps. I think that answers your question doesn't it?
28fps is NORMAL!

In fact it's more frames than you should have. Should be about 25. The fact it's running at 28fps might be why it's laggy, because the video should never have been encoded to that frame rate.

Your video isn't 1080i anyway, it's 632x324. Not even close to HD.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-22 16:15:24)

GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6688|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


1080 is more than twice as high of a resolution than 720. And as for the rest of the system, it's about twice-trice as fast as my laptop. A radeon 9200 is DX8.1 ffs. (Well, PS1.4, but still officially DX8.1)

@Jenspm, I don't buy my movies. Only fags buy their movies.
well then look at my "laggy videos" thread. Thats a full 1080i with a 8800GT 512 and a 2x 3000mhz processor. I only get 28 fps. I think that answers your question doesn't it?
28fps is NORMAL!

In fact it's more frames than you should have. Should be about 25. The fact it's running at 28fps might be why it's laggy, because the video should never have been encoded to that frame rate.

Your video isn't 1080i anyway, it's 632x324. Not even close to HD.
no wonder why it looks crap... lol... there is your problem .sup
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6727|The Twilight Zone
HD vids play fine and the low res. dvixs suck lol i'm really confused now.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

No chance of running 1080p content smoothly on that rig. Not with proper audio.
I just did... Full HD, scaled down to 1280p width, stereo sound. If it'll do it without scaling down on the projector remains a mystery until I get it.
Well that's not even close to 1080p with proper sound then is it.

That's 720p, with stereo audio. BIG difference. 2.25x lower quality video and (I'm guessing here, 192kbps opposed to say 768kbps for DTS or 448 for AC3). It's a big difference.
I know it's a huge difference between 1080 and 720, but it's a 1080 file scaled down to fit the screen. The ammound of data processed by the processor should be the same, right?

As for the audio, it's all I'm ever gonna use and the sound card supports anyhow. I don't have a 5.1 system, and I'm not gonna get one, unless someone gives it to me for free.

.Sup wrote:

HD vids play fine and the low res. dvixs suck lol i'm really confused now.
Videos aren't like games, Sup. Videos very rarely play at more than about 25-30FPS. And playing a 600x300 video file in fullscreen does not make it a HD video. It makes it a small crappy 600x300 video expanded to HD size. By far not as much data to be processed.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-03-22 16:25:36)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6855|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I just did... Full HD, scaled down to 1280p width, stereo sound. If it'll do it without scaling down on the projector remains a mystery until I get it.
Well that's not even close to 1080p with proper sound then is it.

That's 720p, with stereo audio. BIG difference. 2.25x lower quality video and (I'm guessing here, 192kbps opposed to say 768kbps for DTS or 448 for AC3). It's a big difference.
I know it's a huge difference between 1080 and 720, but it's a 1080 file scaled down to fit the screen. The ammound of data processed by the processor should be the same, right?

As for the audio, it's all I'm ever gonna use and the sound card supports anyhow. I don't have a 5.1 system, and I'm not gonna get one, unless someone gives it to me for free.
Not really. Depends what it is. If it uses any sort of MPEG4 compression it'll be object based and so won't be so apparent at lower display resolutions. Is it 1080p25? I always think of 1080p as being 1080p50 or even 1080p60. Makes a huge difference. That rig is extremely unlikely to playback a 1080p50 MPEG4 stream properly.

I've tried watching a 1080p50 Divx6 encode of 300 with DTS on a laptop with a 1.6GHz Centrino in and a 6600Go, was like watching a slideshow with the audio totally out of sync, running at about .8fps.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-03-22 16:34:12)

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Well that's not even close to 1080p with proper sound then is it.

That's 720p, with stereo audio. BIG difference. 2.25x lower quality video and (I'm guessing here, 192kbps opposed to say 768kbps for DTS or 448 for AC3). It's a big difference.
I know it's a huge difference between 1080 and 720, but it's a 1080 file scaled down to fit the screen. The ammound of data processed by the processor should be the same, right?

As for the audio, it's all I'm ever gonna use and the sound card supports anyhow. I don't have a 5.1 system, and I'm not gonna get one, unless someone gives it to me for free.
Not really. Depends what it is. If it uses any sort of MPEG4 compression it'll be object based and so won't be so apparent at lower display resolutions. Is it 1080p25? I always think of 1080p as being 1080p50 or even 1080p60. Makes a huge difference. That rig is extremely unlikely to playback a 1080p50 MPEG4 stream properly.

I've tried watching a 1080p50 Divx6 encode of 300 with DTS on a laptop with a 1.6GHz Centrino in and a 6600Go, was like watching a slideshow with the audio totally out of sync, running at about .8fps.
oO

Maybe I got 1080p25 with some low audio quality, but it played smoothly, at least.

I propably won't be using this thing for HD video playback anyhow, mainly made this thread to see if it was possible to playback HD on it after what I saw VLC do. (VLC gave me about three frames a minute)
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6855|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


I know it's a huge difference between 1080 and 720, but it's a 1080 file scaled down to fit the screen. The ammound of data processed by the processor should be the same, right?

As for the audio, it's all I'm ever gonna use and the sound card supports anyhow. I don't have a 5.1 system, and I'm not gonna get one, unless someone gives it to me for free.
Not really. Depends what it is. If it uses any sort of MPEG4 compression it'll be object based and so won't be so apparent at lower display resolutions. Is it 1080p25? I always think of 1080p as being 1080p50 or even 1080p60. Makes a huge difference. That rig is extremely unlikely to playback a 1080p50 MPEG4 stream properly.

I've tried watching a 1080p50 Divx6 encode of 300 with DTS on a laptop with a 1.6GHz Centrino in and a 6600Go, was like watching a slideshow with the audio totally out of sync, running at about .8fps.
oO

Maybe I got 1080p25 with some low audio quality, but it played smoothly, at least.

I propably won't be using this thing for HD video playback anyhow, mainly made this thread to see if it was possible to playback HD on it after what I saw VLC do. (VLC gave me about three frames a minute)
Doesn't matter. Just get stuff in 720p, which is fine. 1080p content tends to take up vast amounts of hard drive space. If it's on a Blu-Ray disk then it's fine, but otherwise not worth the space.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Not really. Depends what it is. If it uses any sort of MPEG4 compression it'll be object based and so won't be so apparent at lower display resolutions. Is it 1080p25? I always think of 1080p as being 1080p50 or even 1080p60. Makes a huge difference. That rig is extremely unlikely to playback a 1080p50 MPEG4 stream properly.

I've tried watching a 1080p50 Divx6 encode of 300 with DTS on a laptop with a 1.6GHz Centrino in and a 6600Go, was like watching a slideshow with the audio totally out of sync, running at about .8fps.
oO

Maybe I got 1080p25 with some low audio quality, but it played smoothly, at least.

I propably won't be using this thing for HD video playback anyhow, mainly made this thread to see if it was possible to playback HD on it after what I saw VLC do. (VLC gave me about three frames a minute)
Doesn't matter. Just get stuff in 720p, which is fine. 1080p content tends to take up vast amounts of hard drive space. If it's on a Blu-Ray disk then it's fine, but otherwise not worth the space.
Yeh, I will/am. This computer has a nice 1280x800 screen to watch 720p at at night when I won't be using the projector.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6855|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


oO

Maybe I got 1080p25 with some low audio quality, but it played smoothly, at least.

I propably won't be using this thing for HD video playback anyhow, mainly made this thread to see if it was possible to playback HD on it after what I saw VLC do. (VLC gave me about three frames a minute)
Doesn't matter. Just get stuff in 720p, which is fine. 1080p content tends to take up vast amounts of hard drive space. If it's on a Blu-Ray disk then it's fine, but otherwise not worth the space.
Yeh, I will/am. This computer has a nice 1280x800 screen to watch 720p at at night when I won't be using the projector.
But night is the perfect time to use a projector!

With that said, I think I'm going to go and watch something on mine....
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6471|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Doesn't matter. Just get stuff in 720p, which is fine. 1080p content tends to take up vast amounts of hard drive space. If it's on a Blu-Ray disk then it's fine, but otherwise not worth the space.
Yeh, I will/am. This computer has a nice 1280x800 screen to watch 720p at at night when I won't be using the projector.
But night is the perfect time to use a projector!

With that said, I think I'm going to go and watch something on mine....
In my room, it's night all day... *Backs off into the shade*

Also, lulz @ 720p Karma
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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