Water or some other form of pumped coolant.
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Do you think water cooling will ever become maintstream?
| Yes. | 18% | 18% - 11 | ||||
| No. | 81% | 81% - 47 | ||||
| Total: 58 | ||||||
No. It's pretty much only used for the e-penis factor now as it is. It really doesn't offer that much better cooling. If you're after an amazing cooling system, you should just get a peltier, not WC.
I think eventually it may have to, smaller chips, more heat...just look at the size of the cpu fans of even 5-10 years ago, they were weak as. So yes, I do think liquid cooling may become a necessity.
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No.
Integrated ALL-IN-ONE water cooling might become mainstream IF the CPU TDP will continue to become higher.
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Maybe when GPC cores get too hot to cool them with air. My next gfx card will be watercooler. Did some calculating: its a lot of money when you buy complete watercooling kit but when you change graphic cards you just need to buy new water blocks. So why not buy a water block instead of an air cooler? My 1 cent.
If you buy a cheap wc system it's not much better than air but a good one will alot better. And with a pelt you still need a wc loop to cool the pelt.CrazeD wrote:
No. It's pretty much only used for the e-penis factor now as it is. It really doesn't offer that much better cooling. If you're after an amazing cooling system, you should just get a peltier, not WC.
No. The cost is too high for most users (not to mention maintenance). And the current trend towards heatpipe cooling seems to be dropping prices for that. Although you could argue that heatpipes are a form of water cooling...
Not unless it's integrated.
In fact, processors 5 years ago were hotter than modern processors. GPUs have just failed to find the trend yet.eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
I think eventually it may have to, smaller chips, more heat...just look at the size of the cpu fans of even 5-10 years ago, they were weak as. So yes, I do think liquid cooling may become a necessity.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Too right, my AthlonXP 3200+ runs at 59C on idle.Freezer7Pro wrote:
In fact, processors 5 years ago were hotter than modern processors. GPUs have just failed to find the trend yet.eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
I think eventually it may have to, smaller chips, more heat...just look at the size of the cpu fans of even 5-10 years ago, they were weak as. So yes, I do think liquid cooling may become a necessity.
Yeah but it's much better cooling.jaymz9350 wrote:
If you buy a cheap wc system it's not much better than air but a good one will alot better. And with a pelt you still need a wc loop to cool the pelt.CrazeD wrote:
No. It's pretty much only used for the e-penis factor now as it is. It really doesn't offer that much better cooling. If you're after an amazing cooling system, you should just get a peltier, not WC.
but not used much. most people going sub ambient will go with phase change for a useable pc. pelts are horribly inefficient and dangerous (it's not hard to catch your pc on fire with one)CrazeD wrote:
Yeah but it's much better cooling.jaymz9350 wrote:
If you buy a cheap wc system it's not much better than air but a good one will alot better. And with a pelt you still need a wc loop to cool the pelt.CrazeD wrote:
No. It's pretty much only used for the e-penis factor now as it is. It really doesn't offer that much better cooling. If you're after an amazing cooling system, you should just get a peltier, not WC.
It's pretty simple: a good watercooling system will keep the components cooler than air for the most part, and it'll be waay quieter. In the near future I can see it getting more popular, but not for an entire mainstream to start with the trend.
I've seen water cooling setups with more fans than my 100% air-cooled PC. Bare in mind such setups are usually outside of the case (depending entirely, of course, on the case and setup) it can't be too too much quieter.kylef wrote:
a good watercooling system will keep the components cooler than air for the most part, and it'll be waay quieter.
Remember that the near-silent water cooling loops only carry heat away from the source, right into the big radiator with 4 fans on it. :p
The fans spin on lower rpms than those on air coolers.CrazeD wrote:
I've seen water cooling setups with more fans than my 100% air-cooled PC. Bare in mind such setups are usually outside of the case (depending entirely, of course, on the case and setup) it can't be too too much quieter.kylef wrote:
a good watercooling system will keep the components cooler than air for the most part, and it'll be waay quieter.
Remember that the near-silent water cooling loops only carry heat away from the source, right into the big radiator with 4 fans on it. :p
And when you take the heatsink off, it's 590C in 5 seconds. Newer cpus aren't even close to how hot AthlonXPs are.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Too right, my AthlonXP 3200+ runs at 59C on idle.Freezer7Pro wrote:
In fact, processors 5 years ago were hotter than modern processors. GPUs have just failed to find the trend yet.eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
I think eventually it may have to, smaller chips, more heat...just look at the size of the cpu fans of even 5-10 years ago, they were weak as. So yes, I do think liquid cooling may become a necessity.
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I have 2 burn scars on my hand. One from touching a passively cooled x1900xt, the other from an AthlonXP. Seems kind of fitting that those companies mergedDeathUnlimited wrote:
And when you take the heatsink off, it's 590C in 5 seconds. Newer cpus aren't even close to how hot AthlonXPs are.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Too right, my AthlonXP 3200+ runs at 59C on idle.Freezer7Pro wrote:
In fact, processors 5 years ago were hotter than modern processors. GPUs have just failed to find the trend yet.
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I've got a nice, perfectly Duron-core shaped burn mark on my hand after an accident with an 800MHz of those.max wrote:
I have 2 burn scars on my hand. One from touching a passively cooled x1900xt, the other from an AthlonXP. Seems kind of fitting that those companies mergedDeathUnlimited wrote:
And when you take the heatsink off, it's 590C in 5 seconds. Newer cpus aren't even close to how hot AthlonXPs are.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Too right, my AthlonXP 3200+ runs at 59C on idle.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
never chip power consumption will drop and optical processing will generate almost no heat..
so air cooled ftw.
so air cooled ftw.
I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable using water cooling.
Also, with the current trend of less power consumption and smaller chips, less heat production seems to be more prevalent.
Also, with the current trend of less power consumption and smaller chips, less heat production seems to be more prevalent.
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H2o will outperform any air cooling system if properly configured. It will also do so more quietly. However, water cooling will require some level of maintenance, so I don't see it becoming mainstream.
Nope, as listed above, CPUs are getting more efficient with the power they use, and thus the heat they put off. The 80-core processors that Intel are supposedly developing (They say they will be out in 2010, but I will believe it when I see it) are "supposed" to be about the same in heat and power as modern quad cores.
I know my AMD 2100+ ran considerably hotter than my Quad Core Extreme...
Now Graphics cards are a little different. They seem to be taking more and more power and are getting hotter and hotter... Hopefully they will find the breaking point (If the newest generation hasn't already, I haven't gotten to play with those yet) and they will start getting more efficient on the current amount of heat/power.
I know my AMD 2100+ ran considerably hotter than my Quad Core Extreme...
Now Graphics cards are a little different. They seem to be taking more and more power and are getting hotter and hotter... Hopefully they will find the breaking point (If the newest generation hasn't already, I haven't gotten to play with those yet) and they will start getting more efficient on the current amount of heat/power.