It is. And he'll get the VC, rightfully so.Cheez wrote:
"In the face of the enemy" means in the armed forces. George Cross is for civilians.rh27 wrote:
Doesn't sound like he qualifies for the Victoria Cross.
He wasn't in the presence of the enemy (from what I understand from the article), so therefore he qualifies for the equivalent award the George Cross for bravery not in the presence of the enemy.
That's how I interpret it anyway. I'd trust a Pom to know more about Pom stuff than a non-Pom.
He thoroughly deserves a VC, he's got more nuts than I have.
he deserves the VC is all I can say. well, and lucky bastard.
Happens all the time. Happens in every war. I wonder if I would do something like that...well atleast I would if I were wearing dragon skin.
I say give him the highest honor. Other then that it's not something that doesn't happen too often.
I say give him the highest honor. Other then that it's not something that doesn't happen too often.
Bradt3hleader wrote:
Happens all the time.
Other then that it's not something that doesn't happen too often.
He willingly gave up his life on that day. But apparently God wasn't accepting any more entries for the day.
If he doesn't get the highest honor available in the military, then that's just stupid.
If he doesn't get the highest honor available in the military, then that's just stupid.
he'll get a VC, I'm sure.
He sure as hell deserves the VC. It'll be a travesty if he doesn't get it.
Pretty amazing that he survived that though.
Pretty amazing that he survived that though.
Very brave man and he probably saved the lives of some of his squad mates
By the way he got the George cross.
The George Cross (GC) is the highest civil decoration of the Commonwealth of Nations.[1] The GC is the civilian counterpart of the Victoria Cross and the highest gallantry award for civilians as well as for military personnel in actions which are not in the face of the enemy or for which purely military honours would not normally be granted.[2] However, the VC is higher in order of precedence and would be worn first by an individual who had been awarded both decorations (which has not so far occurred).
Saw it in the paper agan other day man is a hero
Man he's got balls....
or did have balls...
Cool guy.
or did have balls...
Cool guy.
i remember training and fighting with the royal marines. best motherfukers i have ever served with from another country.
Worthy bump it's nice to see threads like this.
He didn't get the VC because it wasn't direct enemy combat. But a bomb which had been left by one. I think it was a pretty poor reason not to give it to him.jord wrote:
By the way he got the George cross.The George Cross (GC) is the highest civil decoration of the Commonwealth of Nations.[1] The GC is the civilian counterpart of the Victoria Cross and the highest gallantry award for civilians as well as for military personnel in actions which are not in the face of the enemy or for which purely military honours would not normally be granted.[2] However, the VC is higher in order of precedence and would be worn first by an individual who had been awarded both decorations (which has not so far occurred).
he tensed his abs at the right time... seriously though... that is one real brave son of a bitch... Someone up above was looking out for him.... lol
Love is the answer
one brave bastard with giant stainless steel balls
Basically if you jump on a grenade I wouldn't expect to live. That man is very brave. Lucky he survived.
Wow. I've read something similar to this about a marine that did the same thing, except he wasn't as lucky and died.
From the man himself.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
The ironic thing is if he didn't do that he'd be dead.
To all the people who are saying he can't get the VC.
He can, the GC is the highest medal a civilian (someone not in an armed force) can get. The VC is apparently it's equal, but in reality it is way more important.
He was protecting his squad from a enemy grenade
Also I would like to take some credit because that the 40 Commando base is very close to where I live.
We know how to train our soldiers
(i actually remember seeing this on my local news, it was pretty awesome, I didn't click that link so I don't know if it shows "The Bag"... but when they showed it on TV, wow, it was epic)
Edit: I just watched the video above, it doesn't show the bag from the greatest of angles.
He can, the GC is the highest medal a civilian (someone not in an armed force) can get. The VC is apparently it's equal, but in reality it is way more important.
He was protecting his squad from a enemy grenade
Also I would like to take some credit because that the 40 Commando base is very close to where I live.
We know how to train our soldiers
(i actually remember seeing this on my local news, it was pretty awesome, I didn't click that link so I don't know if it shows "The Bag"... but when they showed it on TV, wow, it was epic)
Edit: I just watched the video above, it doesn't show the bag from the greatest of angles.
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He CAN'T get the VC. It was not direct enemy combat. This has been explained again and again as to why he did not get the VC. Which many people believed he should have.Tehremos wrote:
To all the people who are saying he can't get the VC.
He can, the GC is the highest medal a civilian (someone not in an armed force) can get. The VC is apparently it's equal, but in reality it is way more important.
He was protecting his squad from a enemy grenade
The conditions for the VC are very specific.
He deserves more than one medal for that ...
The George Cross is no lesser medal than the Victoria Cross, the VC and GC are awarded for precisely the same things, they are both the same level of award, it's simply the circumstances that determines which one you get.TheAussieReaper wrote:
He didn't get the VC because it wasn't direct enemy combat. But a bomb which had been left by one. I think it was a pretty poor reason not to give it to him.jord wrote:
By the way he got the George cross.The George Cross (GC) is the highest civil decoration of the Commonwealth of Nations.[1] The GC is the civilian counterpart of the Victoria Cross and the highest gallantry award for civilians as well as for military personnel in actions which are not in the face of the enemy or for which purely military honours would not normally be granted.[2] However, the VC is higher in order of precedence and would be worn first by an individual who had been awarded both decorations (which has not so far occurred).