abnormal cpu temps... reapply thermalpaste?

2008-03-30 19:04:48

#1

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

ok my load temps look like to be much higher than others with same specs and cooler.
hitting over 80c at 1.35vcore doesn't sound right to me...
You think I should reapply the thermalpaste or what? It is really really shitty business to remove/remount teh cooler since it is so tight fit.
awww

max temp I hit was 87 on core #0 and then I read others pwning prime95 4 threads at 3.6ghz with <75c temps with 9700nt...

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2008-03-30 19:06:11

#2

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6979|67.222.138.85

What model processor/heatsink...

2008-03-30 19:08:31

#3

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
What model processor/heatsink...

Q6600 G0 @3.33ghz 1.35vcore and Zalman 9700NT at optimal (medium) RPM

EDIT: also my idle temps went up over 10c when I moved the stuff in teh case so taht left me wonder if the paste is fucked up between the heatsink and CPU...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-03-30 19:10:02)

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2008-03-30 19:14:23

#4

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6979|67.222.138.85

What kind of airflow do you have in your case?

2008-03-30 19:15:36

#5

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
What kind of airflow do you have in your case?

I would describe it very good. I have 3x 120mm fans and 1x 80c fan.

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2008-03-30 19:48:38

#6

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6596|New Haven, CT

Yeah, that would be a good idea.

2008-03-30 20:29:53

#7

Overdose: Member; +13|6387|Fort Worth, TX

well Panzer i have the same motherboard with the latest bios (v0605), and i still get abnormal readings. Once i got 133°C on my motherboard while it was idle. All i could say is let the thermal paste to set for awhile and run orthos to make it set faster. If that doesn't fix it replace the paste.

2008-03-30 21:04:26

#8

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6979|67.222.138.85

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
What kind of airflow do you have in your case?
I would describe it very good. I have 3x 120mm fans and 1x 80c fan.

but how is it actually flowing through your case? That can make a big difference, especially if your cpu fan is fighting one or more of your case fans.

2008-03-30 21:07:53

#9

jaymz9350: Member; +54|6849

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
ok my load temps look like to be much higher than others with same specs and cooler.
hitting over 80c at 1.35vcore doesn't sound right to me...
You think I should reapply the thermalpaste or what? It is really really shitty business to remove/remount teh cooler since it is so tight fit.
awww

max temp I hit was 87 on core #0 and then I read others pwning prime95 4 threads at 3.6ghz with <75c temps with 9700nt...

yeah reapplying the paste may help. But you also have to remember ambient temps have as much to do with your cpu temp as the other factors. my q6600 @ 3.4 vcore loads at about 65 on the hottest core with a zal 9500 but my ambients are about 60F.

2008-03-30 23:42:06

#10

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

Overdose wrote:
well Panzer i have the same motherboard with the latest bios (v0605), and i still get abnormal readings. Once i got 133°C on my motherboard while it was idle. All i could say is let the thermal paste to set for awhile and run orthos to make it set faster. If that doesn't fix it replace the paste.

I used latest Coretemp for temp monitoring. It shows up the correct temps. Running Prime95 with four threads is well, not so good idea now that the temps are sky high. Also zalman STG-1 grease doesn't need much time to reach optimal performance like AS5 does.

My case has very good airflow through it. It is NZXT Lexa Blackline and the cooling power is very good. Also I doubt that my ambient would have suddenly risen 10-15c. I can't help but look at cheap watercooling kit selling at 79€... I guess I'll at least try to reapply the paste first. Even tho it is a real bitch.... From that I can see how well the paste is spread. And if it doesn't fix this, watercooling it shall be.

edit: I know the coretemps readings are correct since I was running Prime95 with full load and it was all good but then temps went 87 for 2nd core and thread 2 failed. 85c is the safety limit on C2Q.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-03-30 23:45:13)

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2008-03-30 23:51:54

#11

jaymz9350: Member; +54|6849

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Overdose wrote:
well Panzer i have the same motherboard with the latest bios (v0605), and i still get abnormal readings. Once i got 133°C on my motherboard while it was idle. All i could say is let the thermal paste to set for awhile and run orthos to make it set faster. If that doesn't fix it replace the paste.
I used latest Coretemp for temp monitoring. It shows up the correct temps. Running Prime95 with four threads is well, not so good idea now that the temps are sky high. Also zalman STG-1 grease doesn't need much time to reach optimal performance like AS5 does.

My case has very good airflow through it. It is NZXT Lexa Blackline and the cooling power is very good. Also I doubt that my ambient would have suddenly risen 10-15c. I can't help but look at cheap watercooling kit selling at 79€... I guess I'll at least try to reapply the paste first. Even tho it is a real bitch.... From that I can see how well the paste is spread. And if it doesn't fix this, watercooling it shall be.

edit: I know the coretemps readings are correct since I was running Prime95 with full load and it was all good but then temps went 87 for 2nd core and thread 2 failed. 85c is the safety limit on C2Q.

I would definatlely redo the paste. you said you were digging around in the case and you could have easily bumped the heatsink and messed up the paste. And just a warning about watercooling, don't go cheap. A cheap kit will be out performed by a good air cooler.

2008-03-31 00:02:45

#12

Nappy: Apprentice; +151|6501|NSW, Australia

your ati card is making it boil....

2008-03-31 00:30:19

#13

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6765|N. Ireland

Been there, done that!

I had my E6400 randomly hit over 70C and it just wouldn't go down. So I took a look in my computer to find that the heatsink had separated itself from the thermal paste. I rubbed the old layer off off and applied a new, thin layer. Temperatures only dropped by 10C; I was very confused. Did it again, only this time used component solvent (although high volume alcohol will do the trick also) - I dabbed very little onto a cloth and rubbed the CPU again so that it was like-new. I then applied a new, thin layer as before and my temperatures were down to mind 30Cs.

Be sure to clean the thermal paste of your CPU and heatsink!

2008-03-31 00:35:52

#14

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

kylef wrote:
Been there, done that!

I had my E6400 randomly hit over 70C and it just wouldn't go down. So I took a look in my computer to find that the heatsink had separated itself from the thermal paste. I rubbed the old layer off off and applied a new, thin layer. Temperatures only dropped by 10C; I was very confused. Did it again, only this time used component solvent (although high volume alcohol will do the trick also) - I dabbed very little onto a cloth and rubbed the CPU again so that it was like-new. I then applied a new, thin layer as before and my temperatures were down to mind 30Cs.

Be sure to clean the thermal paste of your CPU and heatsink!

Yes I used Arctic clean kit to clean both the cpu and heatsink. Just tried my load temps at all stock. Still 71c. Hell, even stock cooler can do that!

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2008-03-31 01:04:42

#15

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

and those wondering how the case cooling is...
old pic but case fans are same...

https://img184.imageshack.us/img184/223/newrig1rm5.jpg

what you can't see in the pic are 120mm on the front and 80mm on the top.

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2008-03-31 04:35:17

#16

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

Ok just reapplied the paste and put everything back together.
Result @3.33ghz:
Idle temps at 45c (55-60c before)
Load temps 60-70c (80-90c before)
Heat is spread more evenly between cores. only 3-10c difference. (two cores used to be much much cooler than the other two)

Prime95 with 4 threads can now stress test my CPU as long as it wants (used to fail in one minute. emergency shutdown followed in a minute if continued)

Zalman runs at silent mode most of the time (used to go WOOOOOSSSSHHHH)

Owner is happy. (Owner was very unhappy.)

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2008-03-31 05:10:17

#17

ReDevilJR: Member; +106|6623

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Ok just reapplied the paste and put everything back together.
Result @3.33ghz:
Idle temps at 45c (55-60c before)
Load temps 60-70c (80-90c before)
Heat is spread more evenly between cores. only 3-10c difference. (two cores used to be much much cooler than the other two)

Prime95 with 4 threads can now stress test my CPU as long as it wants (used to fail in one minute. emergency shutdown followed in a minute if continued)

Zalman runs at silent mode most of the time (used to go WOOOOOSSSSHHHH)

Owner is happy. (Owner was very unhappy.)

Holy crap dude, I have an A900 case, my CPU fan doesn't even turn on unless using highly CPU intensive programs/games. I've got an E6850 @ 3.6Ghz, and an 8800 Ultra.. Right now my CPU fan is just sitting there, doing nothing. My CPU idles under 30, and under load, not far into the 30's from what I've seen.. CNPS 9700NT, AS5..

Do Q's really expel that much more heat? I understand that there's twice as many cores, but not all of them are being used greatly at all times..?

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2008-03-31 05:16:53)

2008-03-31 05:28:56

#18

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

ReDevilJR wrote:
Holy crap dude, I have an A900 case, my CPU fan doesn't even turn on unless using highly CPU intensive programs/games. I've got an E6850 @ 3.6Ghz, and an 8800 Ultra.. Right now my CPU fan is just sitting there, doing nothing. My CPU idles under 30, and under load, not far into the 30's from what I've seen.. CNPS 9700NT, AS5..

Do Q's really expel that much more heat? I understand that there's twice as many cores, but not all of them are being used greatly at all times..?

E6850 has TDP of 65w at stock. Yours might be about 80w with those clocks. My G6600 G0 has TDP of 95w at stock. With this high OC it is more like 130w. So it makes a lot more heat than the dual cores. You are right about the CPU usage on normal windows use. it is pretty low and temps are low too. It has tremendous multiprocessing power when fully loaded. Running 4 threads of prime95 give me 100% CPU load. Most games don't use much of my CPU power at all. That's why my Zalman's fan hardly spins in normal gaming use. Some games that use 4 cores do stress it a bit more but not even close to 100%. There is huge potential to be had in next gen applications that support all 4 cores.

Worth the extra heat I would say. If someone is planning to do an upgrade that must last years, quad is definately the way to go. Gotta love having .zip compressing 10GB rar, burning a DVD, azureus, winamp, steam, MSN, Warcraft 3 and Source running at the same time.

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2008-03-31 05:32:53

#19

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6921

60-70 degrees is still fuckin' toasty, I'd try again. My E6550 @ 3.4Ghz gets up to 47 at load.

2008-03-31 05:35:50

#20

TheEternalPessimist: Wibble; +412|6892|Mhz

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Ok just reapplied the paste and put everything back together.
Result @3.33ghz:
Idle temps at 45c (55-60c before)
Load temps 60-70c (80-90c before)
Heat is spread more evenly between cores. only 3-10c difference. (two cores used to be much much cooler than the other two)

Prime95 with 4 threads can now stress test my CPU as long as it wants (used to fail in one minute. emergency shutdown followed in a minute if continued)

Zalman runs at silent mode most of the time (used to go WOOOOOSSSSHHHH)

Owner is happy. (Owner was very unhappy.)

Hmm I get lower temps than that with a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with no fan on (e6600 at 3.4, 30* idle 45-50* running Orthos), Antec 900 has a lot more CPU area airflow than that case though.

2008-03-31 05:39:51

#21

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

TheEternalPessimist wrote:
Hmm I get lower temps than that with a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with no fan on (e6600 at 3.4, 30* idle 45-50* running Orthos), Antec 900 has a lot more CPU area airflow than that case though.

Download prime95 25.6 and latest coretemp if you want to see max temps of ur CPU. And run it for 45 minutes. And, you have a dual core CPU. So of course it has much lower temps.

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2008-03-31 05:41:57

#22

TheEternalPessimist: Wibble; +412|6892|Mhz

Q6600 and e6600 are actualy almost identical on temps (I'm assuming you got a G0 anyway, the non power efficient Q66 is a fair bit hotter).

2008-03-31 05:45:43

#23

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6686|Finland

TheEternalPessimist wrote:
Q6600 and e6600 are actualy almost identical on temps (I'm assuming you got a G0 anyway, the non power efficient Q66 is a fair bit hotter).

Q6600 has MUCH higher TDP when overclocked and increased vcore. Try it. I have had E6320, E6750 and now this Q6600 G0 and I would say it is a lot hotter than E6600 is. so 2 cores vs 4 cores definately don't have same temps..

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-03-31 05:46:14)

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2008-03-31 05:51:06

#24

TheEternalPessimist: Wibble; +412|6892|Mhz

Every Q66 rig ive built (of which there have been about 5 now) has had almost identical temps to mine (+5* or so max) so there's something wrong here.

2008-03-31 05:53:10

#25

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6765|N. Ireland

TheEternalPessimist wrote:
Every Q66 rig ive built (of which there have been about 5 now) has had almost identical temps to mine (+5* or so max) so there's something wrong here.

It could simply be the fact that Panzer has significantly overclocked his chip.

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