Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
here is the link

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344409,00.html

" As a Christian, I must support my Christian brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Christian."

Let's keep in mind that this is just one Christian leader who teaches this to all his followers in England.

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2008-04-01 14:17:06)

S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6873|Chicago, IL
A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

"Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain."
learn to read fool

I see wut u did thar...


The Brits need to address the radical Islam problem in their country, it's getting out of hand.  Freedom of speech, at least in America, does not include calls for violence.
CameronPoe
Member
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Yeah read that story alright. Fox are really scraping the barrel these days. They must have about ten people monitoring the IslamWatch website (the source of their info) to keep up the feed of stories that will alienate all Americans against anyone will sallow skin and a beard. Incidentally IslamWatch is a Muslim administered website that outs those that seek to pervert their religion. I thought Muslims didn't speak out about this sort of thing, eh?

It's funny that you should use the Christian leader analogy. If one priest came out and said that to his congregation (which is roughly equivalent to this) most people would baulk in disbelief and either report the guy to the psych ward or e-mail the ChristianWatch website...

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-04-01 14:21:49)

CameronPoe
Member
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S.Lythberg wrote:

It's getting out of hand.
Is it really? What are you basing that on?
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
It is nice to see Muslims speak out against people like this, too bad you suggest it not to be reported.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7008|SE London

S.Lythberg wrote:

A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

"Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain."
learn to read fool

I see wut u did thar...


The Brits need to address the radical Islam problem in their country, it's getting out of hand.  Freedom of speech, at least in America, does not include calls for violence.


Calls for violence which are illegal under British law. The ones who do it and don't get arrested right away are usually under surveillance for intelligence purposes.

There isn't a out of control radical Islam problem in Britain. Muslims speaking out against others is far rarer than people speaking out against them - which seems to be the purpose of this thread.
CameronPoe
Member
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https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1161/1094501958_acd731525e.jpg?v=0

Two can play that game...

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-04-01 14:27:48)

Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7101|Florida, United States

Lotta_Drool wrote:

It is nice to see Muslims speak out against people like this, too bad you suggest it not to be reported.
The majority of Muslims are destitute poor in the Middle East and Indonesia and have no Internet.  It's awfully hard to decry what you don't know exists.  How about you stick to one Muslim bashing thread, ok Lotta?
CameronPoe
Member
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

It is nice to see Muslims speak out against people like this, too bad you suggest it not to be reported.
Report it fine. Blow it out of proportion, no. Not exactly worthy of the big headline status they gave it.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7008|SE London

CameronPoe wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

It is nice to see Muslims speak out against people like this, too bad you suggest it not to be reported.
Report it fine. Blow it out of proportion, no. Not exactly worthy of the big headline status they gave it.
Exactly. They've trawled the Internet for Muslims calling for the punishment of others. I bet if I had a news team trawling the Internet looking for non-Muslims calling for the punishment of Muslims they'd find just as much.
jord
Member
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S.Lythberg wrote:

The Brits need to address the radical Islam problem in their country, it's getting out of hand.  Freedom of speech, at least in America, does not include calls for violence.
Lulz.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6982

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

It is nice to see Muslims speak out against people like this, too bad you suggest it not to be reported.
Report it fine. Blow it out of proportion, no. Not exactly worthy of the big headline status they gave it.
Exactly. They've trawled the Internet for Muslims calling for the punishment of others. I bet if I had a news team trawling the Internet looking for non-Muslims calling for the punishment of Muslims they'd find just as much.
Yes it's called bf2s.com.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6873|Chicago, IL

CameronPoe wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

It's getting out of hand.
Is it really? What are you basing that on?
https://library.flawlesslogic.com/muslim2.jpg
Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

As were both aware, the vast majority of British Muslims are Moderate or Liberal, but there is a significant percentage that can be classified as radical, and the government does nothing to stop them from spewing hateful rhetoric and indoctrinating their children with their views.  Of course, the same can be said for some Christian groups in America, but I'd be all for censoring them as well.

In my opinion, freedom of speech does not include the right to publicly call for violence against another person or group, and yes, a religious institution counts as "publicly."
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
Nice picture.  Do they advocate people going out and killing people in the name of God?  (no)  They preach that God kills those people himself.  So, the difference is that they are just annoying retards and Islam has its very own word for its FOLLOWERS killing nonbelievers as I recall.  Hell they even have their very own word for nonbelievers.

So reflect on what you learned here, because if those people ever advocated murder or did so they would be imprisoned.  I bet if that picture was zoomed out you would see Christians protesting them.

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2008-04-01 14:36:34)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7008|SE London

S.Lythberg wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

It's getting out of hand.
Is it really? What are you basing that on?
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/muslim2.jpg
Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

As were both aware, the vast majority of British Muslims are Moderate or Liberal, but there is a significant percentage that can be classified as radical, and the government does nothing to stop them from spewing hateful rhetoric and indoctrinating their children with their views.  Of course, the same can be said for some Christian groups in America, but I'd be all for censoring them as well.

In my opinion, freedom of speech does not include the right to publicly call for violence against another person or group, and yes, a religious institution counts as "publicly."
Which part of this didn't you understand?

Bertster7 wrote:

Calls for violence which are illegal under British law. The ones who do it and don't get arrested right away are usually under surveillance for intelligence purposes.
Of course if you've got no evidence then you've got no case for prosecution and proving someone has said something to an audience that is unlikely to testify against them, then you're a bit fucked. Everything practical within the law is being done to silence these few troublemakers.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7101|Florida, United States

Lotta_Drool wrote:

So, the difference is that they are just annoying retards and Islam has its very own word for its FOLLOWERS killing nonbelievers as I recall.
Christians do too.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Crusade

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Hell they even have their very own word for nonbelievers.
Christians do too.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Heathen

Lotta_Drool wrote:

So reflect on what you learned here, because if those people ever advocated murder or did so they would be imprisoned.  I bet if that picture was zoomed out you would see Christians protesting them.
I have never in my life seen a picture of public protest against the WBC, at least while the WBC was out protesting.  Find one and I'll concede.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/pal-seminary-attack1.jpg

Palestinian Muslims celebrate the cold-blooded murder
of eight Jewish seminary students in the name of their god.

I wonder if that is an Irishman playing the bagpipes.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6895
cam, you fell right into WBC's trap. There's just attention whores, trying to get people to notice them and with just a hateful message they can try to get people to assault them so that they can sue their ass, as they are all lawyers.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

It is nice to see Muslims speak out against people like this, too bad you suggest it not to be reported.
Report it fine. Blow it out of proportion, no. Not exactly worthy of the big headline status they gave it.
Exactly. They've trawled the Internet for Muslims calling for the punishment of others. I bet if I had a news team trawling the Internet looking for non-Muslims calling for the punishment of Muslims they'd find just as much.
Yeah, finding shit like this is such a rarity I can not believe he found it in the first place He musta scowered for hours to bring this out.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Havok wrote:

I have never in my life seen a picture of public protest against the WBC, at least while the WBC was out protesting.  Find one and I'll concede.
[edit] Counter protests
Counter protests are generally organized to provide an opposing viewpoint at sites that Westboro Baptist pickets. In some cases counter protesters have lined up and turned their backs on the Westboro Baptist pickets or encircled them in a ring, explaining that they want to symbolically shield the community from the protest.

Two days after the September 11th attacks, a 19-year old man named Jared Dailey stood on the street corner facing the church holding up a plywood sign that said "Not today Fred." Within two days, 86 people joined him, waving American flags and anti-hate signs.[71] Since then, "Not today Fred" has become a commonly used motto for counter protests against Phelps.


[edit] Patriot Guard Riders
The Patriot Guard Riders is a motorcyclist group comprised mostly of veterans who attend the funerals of members of the U.S. Armed Forces at the invitation of the deceased’s family. The group was initially formed to shelter and protect the funerals from protesters from the WBC, but has since expanded its activities beyond those funerals covered by the WBC.


[edit] The Black Guard
The Black Guard is a Facebook group that actively protests the actions of the WBC. It has a list of all of the WBC's protests and has plans to protest them at these sites.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Patriotguard.JPG


start conceding
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7008|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Report it fine. Blow it out of proportion, no. Not exactly worthy of the big headline status they gave it.
Exactly. They've trawled the Internet for Muslims calling for the punishment of others. I bet if I had a news team trawling the Internet looking for non-Muslims calling for the punishment of Muslims they'd find just as much.
Yeah, finding shit like this is such a rarity I can not believe he found it in the first place He musta scowered for hours to bring this out.
Not when you have sites like Islam Watch (the source for this) on your favourites.
CloakedStarship
Member
+76|6992
I would leave that church if some bishop told me that I've gotta hate people just because they aren't Christians.  Theres no reason to hate people just because they don't follow the same belief I do.  In the end, we'll find out whats up, and then judgment shall be dealt.  Or nobody is right and we all just blink out of existence.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
Oh, now I get it cam, you should have just came out and said it like he is willing too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2R … mp;search=
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Exactly. They've trawled the Internet for Muslims calling for the punishment of others. I bet if I had a news team trawling the Internet looking for non-Muslims calling for the punishment of Muslims they'd find just as much.
Yeah, finding shit like this is such a rarity I can not believe he found it in the first place He musta scowered for hours to bring this out.
Not when you have sites like Islam Watch (the source for this) on your favourites.
It is time you had a reality check.......You can not swing a dead fuckin cat on the internet without finding sites that show Islam for what it is.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6873|Chicago, IL

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Exactly. They've trawled the Internet for Muslims calling for the punishment of others. I bet if I had a news team trawling the Internet looking for non-Muslims calling for the punishment of Muslims they'd find just as much.
Yeah, finding shit like this is such a rarity I can not believe he found it in the first place He musta scowered for hours to bring this out.
Not when you have sites like Islam Watch (the source for this) on your favourites.
Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.

Last edited by S.Lythberg (2008-04-01 14:56:00)

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