At the same time, it doesn't hurt to invest a teensy-bit more into overkill. It can add several years to your rig's lifetime.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Exactly.']['error wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
Any dual core and 2gb of ram are indeed fine for computers not used for gaming/hard multitasking for years ahead.
You referenced a Celeron 466 as your old laptop, which could apparently do everything you claimed. Now it's the Pentium M? Geez.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes. But an E2160 is more than enough to run flash animations properly. My lappy's Pentium M 1.6 runs every flash game that I've thrown at it flawlessly.
I think he had the old laptop, which he gave to his mother when his uncle gave him the current one (if I remember the thread correctly).
It's my old laptop that's the Celeron 466. My new one is a Pentium M 1.6, that I'm having two YouTube videos open on the same screen without lag. The 466 has no major problems rendering YouTube videos and the like. I've ran many much more demanding flashes on it. What I'm saying is, that if an 1.6GHz single-core CPU based on the same architecture as the Pentium 3 with 400MHz FSB can handle what the web has to offer, what will not an 1.8GHz dual-core Conroe with double the FSB do?SenorToenails wrote:
You referenced a Celeron 466 as your old laptop, which could apparently do everything you claimed. Now it's the Pentium M? Geez.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes. But an E2160 is more than enough to run flash animations properly. My lappy's Pentium M 1.6 runs every flash game that I've thrown at it flawlessly.
Yes.nukchebi0 wrote:
I think he had the old laptop, which he gave to his mother when his uncle gave him the current one (if I remember the thread correctly).
@unnamednewbie13: A 2160 alone is overkill. The 2140 is faster than my P4 at stock, and you can fuck me with a chainsaw if it can't handle 99% of what the web has to offer.
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The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Instead of investing in faster hardware, buy more expensive base components. It's a PC that's going to be used for simple purposes by inexperienced users: reliable hardware that won't cause problems is more desirable than giving people who don't care more performance. You think they'll even notice it's running slow 5 years from now? Buy a nice PSU, motherboard, hdd, and case instead so it stays alive.
*cough*pdf*cough* I've seen some pretty 'hefty' computers trip over certain web pages.Freezer7Pro wrote:
@unnamednewbie13: A 2160 alone is overkill. The 2140 is faster than my P4 at stock, and you can fuck me with a chainsaw if it can't handle 99% of what the web has to offer.
A cheap $60 dual core's fine and dandy, but my argument is that a pre-built rig for $750 with a CPU worth about a third of its price, plus all other components and an OS is pretty nice. The same argument was used years ago when a business advertised what was, in its day, a wholly-awesome rig for $1000 over the radio and, to its dismay, sold them all. One of these rigs is still running strong (though admittedly on Windows 98 SE).
But continuing to argue over this is like discussing religion: circular nonsense with no end in sight.
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Mine eats PDFs (once they've downloaded) for breakfast.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
*cough*pdf*cough* I've seen some pretty 'hefty' computers trip over certain web pages.Freezer7Pro wrote:
@unnamednewbie13: A 2160 alone is overkill. The 2140 is faster than my P4 at stock, and you can fuck me with a chainsaw if it can't handle 99% of what the web has to offer.
Well, of course even "hefty" computers will trip over websites with 500 50-frame gifs in the background, or every menu being really advanced flash, but do you really think that his parents are gonna be visiting lots of pages of that nature?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
*cough*pdf*cough* I've seen some pretty 'hefty' computers trip over certain web pages.Freezer7Pro wrote:
@unnamednewbie13: A 2160 alone is overkill. The 2140 is faster than my P4 at stock, and you can fuck me with a chainsaw if it can't handle 99% of what the web has to offer.
A cheap $60 dual core's fine and dandy, but my argument is that a pre-built rig for $750 with a CPU worth about a third of its price, plus all other components and an OS is pretty nice. The same argument was used years ago when a business advertised what was, in its day, a wholly-awesome rig for $1000 over the radio and, to its dismay, sold them all. One of these rigs is still running strong (though admittedly on Windows 98 SE).
But continuing to argue over this is like discussing religion: circular nonsense with no end in sight.
The op also states that he doesn't wanna go over £250.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Do you use Adobe Reader?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Mine eats PDFs (once they've downloaded) for breakfast.
Yup.SenorToenails wrote:
Do you use Adobe Reader?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Mine eats PDFs (once they've downloaded) for breakfast.
And £250 clearly indicates he is in UK, which means US pre-built rigs are worthless to use as comparison.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Well, of course even "hefty" computers will trip over websites with 500 50-frame gifs in the background, or every menu being really advanced flash, but do you really think that his parents are gonna be visiting lots of pages of that nature?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
*cough*pdf*cough* I've seen some pretty 'hefty' computers trip over certain web pages.Freezer7Pro wrote:
@unnamednewbie13: A 2160 alone is overkill. The 2140 is faster than my P4 at stock, and you can fuck me with a chainsaw if it can't handle 99% of what the web has to offer.
A cheap $60 dual core's fine and dandy, but my argument is that a pre-built rig for $750 with a CPU worth about a third of its price, plus all other components and an OS is pretty nice. The same argument was used years ago when a business advertised what was, in its day, a wholly-awesome rig for $1000 over the radio and, to its dismay, sold them all. One of these rigs is still running strong (though admittedly on Windows 98 SE).
But continuing to argue over this is like discussing religion: circular nonsense with no end in sight.
The op also states that he doesn't wanna go over £250.
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