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dont shit where you sleep.  the media doesnt give a fuck about any individual.  you did the right thing.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

dont shit where you sleep.  the media doesnt give a fuck about any individual.  you did the right thing.

That's what I was thinking at the time.  But I SO wanted to burn those fuckers.

usmarine wrote:

So as some of you may know, my airline closed its doors Friday night.  This morning we had a meeting so they could explain a bunch of crap to us.  I walked out half way through because I was so pissed off.  As I walked out the door, there was a news crew from ABC standing there.  The reporter came up to me and asked if I wanted to be interviewed.  I paused for about 20 seconds and then told her no.  She asked if I would talk to her off camera, and I said yes.  After she listened to me, she begged me to do the interview.  I said no and walked to my car.

For those of you who know anything about aviation, you know it is a very small community.  So for that reason, I did not want to burn any bridges that I may have to cross in the future.

So now that I think about it more, I wonder if I did the right thing.  I really could have made people angry disclosing some of the info I know.  But I would have made a ton of people happy when the saw me disclosing it.

Definitely, you did the right thing bro, don't worry about it.

Small world indeed, chances are we already know each other or have heard of each other.

Last edited by lowing (2008-04-07 18:29:21)

smart move usmandarine

As an ex-reporter I can tell you - never talk to the media unless it fits within your agenda.

Smart move.

I'm one of those 'too honest for my own good' types - one of these days I'll learn to keep my mouth shut.

usmarine wrote:

So as some of you may know, my airline closed its doors Friday night.  This morning we had a meeting so they could explain a bunch of crap to us.  I walked out half way through because I was so pissed off.  As I walked out the door, there was a news crew from ABC standing there.  The reporter came up to me and asked if I wanted to be interviewed.  I paused for about 20 seconds and then told her no.  She asked if I would talk to her off camera, and I said yes.  After she listened to me, she begged me to do the interview.  I said no and walked to my car.

For those of you who know anything about aviation, you know it is a very small community.  So for that reason, I did not want to burn any bridges that I may have to cross in the future.

So now that I think about it more, I wonder if I did the right thing.  I really could have made people angry disclosing some of the info I know.  But I would have made a ton of people happy when the saw me disclosing it.

First of all you wrote more than 2 lines of text in one post? What gives? You must be really pissed off.


Anyway it depends on what you could have disclosed and what the management did.
Long story...
I was working construction for a while, and one time were were building this huge roof balcony. According to the specifications it was supposed to be able to hold 2 tonnes. According to the regulation this ment that we had to install 2 very expensive steel wireframes as support. But this asshole boss decided to put only one and save some money. The rule is that wireframes were supposed to be installed and than wait for inspection before covering the wireframes with concrete - but we did it rightaway. Than when the inspection was supposed to come we were to put what seemed like 2 tonnes of materials on that balcony so that the dude doing the inspections doesnt get suspicious (if it can hold 2 tonnes than it must be 2 wireframes). But the trick is to fill the empty cement bags or the like with styrofoam or bubblewrap so that ten 50kg bags weight 2kg instead of 500kg. 
Basically money is saved and corners are cut all the time and people (me too) keep quite. But this was too much and too dangerous so me and few other guys blew the whistle. Boss got fined, we got fired and it took me a while to find another job. First few tries I was told that the company was looking for loyal workers... bullshit. But I still think it was the right thing to do.

So it depends and what you can disclose. If its reckless management that endangers planes safety and people on board than you must go public.

What do you stand to lose if you give an interview?  What do you stand to gain?  What about speaking to the reporter on the condition you remain anonymous?

Smart move, definitely. I know the feeling of just wanting to leave a place by backing up and waving both middle fingers in the air. However, doing that, no matter how much pleasure one gets from it at that specific moment, would (according to what you said) look bad in the eyes of the industry. As you mentioned, the airline business is all in all a small niche.

Each day the media is told to mind their own fucking business is win day - good call Tyler

The media are bloodsuckers. Right move.

usmarine wrote:

No severance package at all.  Not a dime.  I know the CEO and VP of Ops who quit before we shutdown got some good bank.  Since we were not public, it will be months till I see who got what.

You did the right thing not to discuss this in front of a camera. The people who did this are the same as the ones you'll be asking for a job tomorrow.

usmarine wrote:

Health care and life insurance ends today at 11:59.  It does not matter to me, but there are people who are pregnant and those who have families and prescriptions.

They still owe us a week of pay and vacation time.  They said it was up to the court.  And since employees come after creditors.....I know we won't see a dime.

Tough luck. Here the employees are first in line, and they are even guaranteed some payment from the gvt. if there is no money in the bankruptcy.

Last edited by Pierre (2008-04-08 03:20:22)