Poll

Smart Move or Dumb Move

Smart80%80% - 46
Dumb19%19% - 11
Total: 57
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6532|eXtreme to the maX
As usmarine did it how could I not vote 'dumb'?
Sorry to hear about that though, the corporate world really sucks these days.
Is that a De Tomaso Pantera? (I'm not aware of any other kind, just wondered)
Fuck Israel
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7183|Argentina
Yeah, talk to the press and let other airlines watch you on tv talking shit against your company.  Ceo's love people who protest on tv and they would hire you asap. /sarcasm 

Don't shit where you eat.
Nappy
Apprentice
+151|6655|NSW, Australia

i woulda have said yes, but not here, and you have to blur my face and change my voice

Last edited by Nappy (2008-04-08 04:09:28)

FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6926|so randum

usmarine wrote:

.  She asked if I would talk to her off camera, and I said yes.  After she listened to me, she begged me to do the interview.
Could she use what you said there?
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|7004|Columbus, OH
It all depends on the circumstances, I guess. You may of had informative insight or the news wanted to show a raving disgruntled ex-employee.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7054|IRELAND

Marines are recruiting.

Na, seriously, think you did the right thing. You could mess up future employment. Or at least the the reputation within the industry as someone who can't be trusted to hold sensitive information...............even if you are well pissed about it.

Same as me, I know people who have burned down whole streets of buildings, destroying peoples homes to avoid planning laws. Cant say shit.
13rin
Member
+977|6905

Braddock wrote:

Free speech is great isn't it?
Sometimes being free to not speak is as important as free speech itself.  Also he may have paid for his free speech in the long run had he opted to do the interview.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6716|Éire

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Free speech is great isn't it?
Sometimes being free to not speak is as important as free speech itself.  Also he may have paid for his free speech in the long run had he opted to do the interview.
I know the reality of usmarine's situation, I actually voted that he made the right choice...I was just trying to wind him up with a sarcastic comment about free speech
Steel
on_Target
+65|6743|Sarasota Fl
long disillusioned pause as I slowly relate usmarine and a smart move....+1
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7075

Dilbert_X wrote:

As usmarine did it how could I not vote 'dumb'?
Sorry to hear about that though, the corporate world really sucks these days.
Is that a De Tomaso Pantera? (I'm not aware of any other kind, just wondered)
They're a band actually.



EDIT: As for the actual topic I think you did the right thing. As everyone has said, if you want another job in the industry you're better staying away from the press. Other than a chance to vent, you don't really have anything to gain from doing an interview.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2008-04-08 05:35:19)

fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6916|Menlo Park, CA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

dont shit where you sleep.  the media doesnt give a fuck about any individual.  you did the right thing.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6532|eXtreme to the maX
They're a band actually.
Thx. That makes sense, a 300lb guy with two heads would never fit in a Pantera, what was I thinking...

Usmarine did the right thing, mouthing off in the heat of the moment is rarely productive, on tv its doubly bad, and from what I've heard if you do that in aviation its game over for you.
Fuck Israel
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6872|Chicago, IL
I'm sure she was all ready to ask you a few questions you wouldn't want to answer, so you made the right choice.

Stay away from the media as often as possible.
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7066|Your moms bedroom

zeidmaan wrote:

usmarine wrote:

So as some of you may know, my airline closed its doors Friday night.  This morning we had a meeting so they could explain a bunch of crap to us.  I walked out half way through because I was so pissed off.  As I walked out the door, there was a news crew from ABC standing there.  The reporter came up to me and asked if I wanted to be interviewed.  I paused for about 20 seconds and then told her no.  She asked if I would talk to her off camera, and I said yes.  After she listened to me, she begged me to do the interview.  I said no and walked to my car.

For those of you who know anything about aviation, you know it is a very small community.  So for that reason, I did not want to burn any bridges that I may have to cross in the future.

So now that I think about it more, I wonder if I did the right thing.  I really could have made people angry disclosing some of the info I know.  But I would have made a ton of people happy when the saw me disclosing it.
First of all you wrote more than 2 lines of text in one post? What gives? You must be really pissed off.


Anyway it depends on what you could have disclosed and what the management did.
Long story...
I was working construction for a while, and one time were were building this huge roof balcony. According to the specifications it was supposed to be able to hold 2 tonnes. According to the regulation this ment that we had to install 2 very expensive steel wireframes as support. But this asshole boss decided to put only one and save some money. The rule is that wireframes were supposed to be installed and than wait for inspection before covering the wireframes with concrete - but we did it rightaway. Than when the inspection was supposed to come we were to put what seemed like 2 tonnes of materials on that balcony so that the dude doing the inspections doesnt get suspicious (if it can hold 2 tonnes than it must be 2 wireframes). But the trick is to fill the empty cement bags or the like with styrofoam or bubblewrap so that ten 50kg bags weight 2kg instead of 500kg. 
Basically money is saved and corners are cut all the time and people (me too) keep quite. But this was too much and too dangerous so me and few other guys blew the whistle. Boss got fined, we got fired and it took me a while to find another job. First few tries I was told that the company was looking for loyal workers... bullshit. But I still think it was the right thing to do.

So it depends and what you can disclose. If its reckless management that endangers planes safety and people on board than you must go public.
As an engineer who has taken structural engineering classes, you did the right thing.

By loyal, they meant loyal to their interests.

Why did you not sue them after you got fired? Here in America whistleblowers are protected by law. Seriously, you could sue that company for a lot and take them down. I'm sure their former customers would be interested in a class-action lawsuit. BTW why not consider getting a job doing the inspections?
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6841|Vienna

Locoloki wrote:

As an engineer who has taken structural engineering classes, you did the right thing.

By loyal, they meant loyal to their interests.

Why did you not sue them after you got fired? Here in America whistleblowers are protected by law. Seriously, you could sue that company for a lot and take them down. I'm sure their former customers would be interested in a class-action lawsuit. BTW why not consider getting a job doing the inspections?
Hehe I was working illegally to pay my way through college
Couldn't exactly make an "official" report

Also I have no official knowledge in construction engineering or whatever... what I know I learned on the job. Im doing Multimedia Informatics on university. Im a geek that can lift things and build stuff
SFCCDailey
Banned
+106|7141|USA
Was the chick reporter hot? If so I might have traded her an interview for a little seomthing. The trick would be to hide a camera in your room while you bang her, then do the on camrea interview. After you're done ask her if she wants to trade tapes!
jord
Member
+2,382|7104|The North, beyond the wall.
Don't they say "Who do I have to screw around here to get a story". In which case you answer "Me".
colonelioan
Member
+14|6882|Kanada
Smart. What made your airline fall that fast? IIRC, it went up like 1 year ago. What happened?

It sucks you lost your job, but you should try a solid airline to apply next time... like, I dunno AA?

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