Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

Bertster7 wrote:

Anyone advocating any sort of armed escalation, be it guns, knives or whatever, is retarded. That's not how these things work. If they are readily available to people the worst element of society WILL be the most likely to have them. The fact is that chavs always hang around in large groups and will be armed to an equivalent or greater degree than virtually anyone they encounter. Being outnumbered by armed gangs and trying to take them on is just stupid. I prefer the situation at the moment where they tend not to be armed at all - that way if you get any chavs starting shit with you, you just hit the mouthiest one of them and the rest of them tend to fuck off.

Even if they're armed with knives, at least you can run away - guns make that far more difficult. Anyone claiming guns being legal is a deterrent for crime needs to look at the homicide rates in countries where guns are legal and compare them to the rates in countries where they are illegal.
You're a subject.
Bertster7
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Anyone advocating any sort of armed escalation, be it guns, knives or whatever, is retarded. That's not how these things work. If they are readily available to people the worst element of society WILL be the most likely to have them. The fact is that chavs always hang around in large groups and will be armed to an equivalent or greater degree than virtually anyone they encounter. Being outnumbered by armed gangs and trying to take them on is just stupid. I prefer the situation at the moment where they tend not to be armed at all - that way if you get any chavs starting shit with you, you just hit the mouthiest one of them and the rest of them tend to fuck off.

Even if they're armed with knives, at least you can run away - guns make that far more difficult. Anyone claiming guns being legal is a deterrent for crime needs to look at the homicide rates in countries where guns are legal and compare them to the rates in countries where they are illegal.
You're a subject.
Damn straight.
Lotta_Drool
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^^^^ No really, that is supposed to be insulting........  ah nevermind.
jord
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We're all statistics. IF you think you're special then you need to do a bit more thinking on the world.
Bertster7
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ No really, that is supposed to be insulting........  ah nevermind.
How is that insulting?

It's pointing out something I quite like about my national and cultural identity. You need to do some work on the insults if that's the best you could come up with.

You're more than 25 times more likely to be shot to death than me. Ha!
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland
^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
jord
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
You're 25 time more likely to survive a stabbing than a gunshot.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
You're 25 time more likely to survive a stabbing than a gunshot.
You're 25 times more likely to stabbed in the weiner because the 12 year old is short.
jord
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+2,382|7103|The North, beyond the wall.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
You're 25 time more likely to survive a stabbing than a gunshot.
You're 25 times more likely to stabbed in the weiner because the 12 year old is short.
I'm 5 foot 8 myself so...
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:


You're 25 time more likely to survive a stabbing than a gunshot.
You're 25 times more likely to stabbed in the weiner because the 12 year old is short.
I'm 5 foot 8 myself so...
Oh, you should carry a gun so that you don't get shanked by some 12 year old.
jord
Member
+2,382|7103|The North, beyond the wall.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

You're 25 times more likely to stabbed in the weiner because the 12 year old is short.
I'm 5 foot 8 myself so...
Oh, you should carry a gun so that you don't get shanked by some 12 year old.
Easy options are for pussies. I'd rather fight, thanks.

And why does everyone use 12 year old when the majority of attacks are carried out by older teens... Shock value?
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:


I'm 5 foot 8 myself so...
Oh, you should carry a gun so that you don't get shanked by some 12 year old.
Easy options are for pussies. I'd rather fight, thanks.

And why does everyone use 12 year old when the majority of attacks are carried out by older teens... Shock value?
Sure, I think you are adding a couple years on to the perps to try to save face but I know you fear the prepubicent hoods.  They run your streets up there.  The shame of it all.
jord
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+2,382|7103|The North, beyond the wall.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


Oh, you should carry a gun so that you don't get shanked by some 12 year old.
Easy options are for pussies. I'd rather fight, thanks.

And why does everyone use 12 year old when the majority of attacks are carried out by older teens... Shock value?
Sure, I think you are adding a couple years on to the perps to try to save face but I know you fear the prepubicent hoods.  They run your streets up there.  The shame of it all.
You can think what you like, seeing as how you don't know shit all about what happens outside your state... Maybe country at a stretch I don't really care.

What do you do when someone starts shit in a bar looking for a fight? Pull a gun out? I don't know which I'd rather have, a society reliant on guns for protection where you need an assault rifle to keep level on the playing field or one "run" by teens.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:


Easy options are for pussies. I'd rather fight, thanks.

And why does everyone use 12 year old when the majority of attacks are carried out by older teens... Shock value?
Sure, I think you are adding a couple years on to the perps to try to save face but I know you fear the prepubicent hoods.  They run your streets up there.  The shame of it all.
You can think what you like, seeing as how you don't know shit all about what happens outside your state... Maybe country at a stretch I don't really care.

What do you do when someone starts shit in a bar looking for a fight? Pull a gun out? I don't know which I'd rather have, a society reliant on guns for protection where you need an assault rifle to keep level on the playing field or one "run" by teens.
Here is the free solution to your Chav problem.

Since Bill Clinton enacted MidNight basketball in the innercities there hasn't been much violence, but I am 25 times more likely to sprain my ankle while playing basketball at 2am.  Maybe England can have Midnight Cricket or something.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7007|SE London

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
No I'm not.

I'm actually about half as likely to be stabbed (to death) over here.

Based on a US homicide rate of 55 per million, of which 14% is knife crime (70% is gun crime) - makes 7.7 per million.

UK homicide rate is 15 per million, of which 29% is knife crime - 4.35 per million.
jord
Member
+2,382|7103|The North, beyond the wall.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


Sure, I think you are adding a couple years on to the perps to try to save face but I know you fear the prepubicent hoods.  They run your streets up there.  The shame of it all.
You can think what you like, seeing as how you don't know shit all about what happens outside your state... Maybe country at a stretch I don't really care.

What do you do when someone starts shit in a bar looking for a fight? Pull a gun out? I don't know which I'd rather have, a society reliant on guns for protection where you need an assault rifle to keep level on the playing field or one "run" by teens.
Here is the free solution to your Chav problem.

Since Bill Clinton enacted MidNight basketball in the innercities there hasn't been much violence, but I am 25 times more likely to sprain my ankle while playing basketball at 2am.  Maybe England can have Midnight Cricket or something.
I, and pretty much everyone I know don't play Cricket. Now that that's been elaborated on...

I've heard better "solutions". But it's pointless telling me the solution spitty... I'm just a subject.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6925|so randum

Snake wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

d4rkst4r wrote:

and how does muslim bitchers fit in?
Was just using it to show how people complain and moan about Britains muslim population, yet stuff like this goes on daily, and i don't see people up in arms about it.
Because it is all too common on those kinds of estates, and has been for as long as I can remember. Perhaps not 17person strong gangs such as that, but its certainly "old news" compared to some of the muslim stuff.

Yes, we all condone it...but Terrorists and foreigners flooding into this country is what the media reports, and what people buy into.
The too common part is damn right, but that shouldn't stop it making the news. I guess the whole terrorism shit and immigration sounds a lot more drastic though, and so that's what makes the media the money.
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Bertster7
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jord wrote:

I, and pretty much everyone I know don't play Cricket. Now that that's been elaborated on...
I do.

I love playing cricket.
jord
Member
+2,382|7103|The North, beyond the wall.

Bertster7 wrote:

jord wrote:

I, and pretty much everyone I know don't play Cricket. Now that that's been elaborated on...
I do.

I love playing cricket.
I only liked hitting the ball really hard. That was pretty much my main aim when batting. Hit it as hard as I could.

More into football myself.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7007|SE London

jord wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

jord wrote:

I, and pretty much everyone I know don't play Cricket. Now that that's been elaborated on...
I do.

I love playing cricket.
I only liked hitting the ball really hard. That was pretty much my main aim when batting. Hit it as hard as I could.

More into football myself.
I like bowling. You just try and scare/hurt the batsman and then put a few on target. It's great fun!
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6925|so randum

jord wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

jord wrote:

I, and pretty much everyone I know don't play Cricket. Now that that's been elaborated on...
I do.

I love playing cricket.
I only liked hitting the ball really hard. That was pretty much my main aim when batting. Hit it as hard as I could.

More into football myself.
I'm a left back myself.

Check karma bitch.

love you.
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Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

Bertster7 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
No I'm not.

I'm actually about half as likely to be stabbed (to death) over here.

Based on a US homicide rate of 55 per million, of which 14% is knife crime (70% is gun crime) - makes 7.7 per million.

UK homicide rate is 15 per million, of which 29% is knife crime - 4.35 per million.
Yeah, but we have the Mexicans and Cubans which make up 40% of our prison population.  If you take them out of the equation you drop the homicide rate of knife crime rate by 40% ( number of Mexicans in prison ) and then you end up with 5.5% -  3.025 per million
jord
Member
+2,382|7103|The North, beyond the wall.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
No I'm not.

I'm actually about half as likely to be stabbed (to death) over here.

Based on a US homicide rate of 55 per million, of which 14% is knife crime (70% is gun crime) - makes 7.7 per million.

UK homicide rate is 15 per million, of which 29% is knife crime - 4.35 per million.
Yeah, but we have the Mexicans and Cubans which make up 40% of our prison population.  If you take them out of the equation you drop the homicide rate of knife crime rate by 40% ( number of Mexicans in prison ) and then you end up with 5.5% -  3.025 per million
Obviously you take out the people that do the crimes the fuckin' number goes down...

Hitler took Jews off the employment register and take a wild guess what happened...


THE EMPLOYMENT NUMBER ONLY WENT DOWN!!! /gasp

Last edited by jord (2008-04-11 13:26:52)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7007|SE London

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ You are 25 times more likely to get stabbed by a punk in a hoodie.
No I'm not.

I'm actually about half as likely to be stabbed (to death) over here.

Based on a US homicide rate of 55 per million, of which 14% is knife crime (70% is gun crime) - makes 7.7 per million.

UK homicide rate is 15 per million, of which 29% is knife crime - 4.35 per million.
Yeah, but we have the Mexicans and Cubans which make up 40% of our prison population.  If you take them out of the equation you drop the homicide rate of knife crime rate by 40% ( number of Mexicans in prison ) and then you end up with 5.5% -  3.025 per million
So what?

The UK has a very large immigrant population too. The simple facts are that the homicide rate in the UK is almost 4 times lower than that in the US. If you take 40% off, which is stupid because it's not representative of anything, then it's still twice as high.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6608|Ireland

jord wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


No I'm not.

I'm actually about half as likely to be stabbed (to death) over here.

Based on a US homicide rate of 55 per million, of which 14% is knife crime (70% is gun crime) - makes 7.7 per million.

UK homicide rate is 15 per million, of which 29% is knife crime - 4.35 per million.
Yeah, but we have the Mexicans and Cubans which make up 40% of our prison population.  If you take them out of the equation you drop the homicide rate of knife crime rate by 40% ( number of Mexicans in prison ) and then you end up with 5.5% -  3.025 per million
Obviously you take out the people that do the crimes the fuckin' number goes down...

Hitler took Jews off the employment register and take a wild guess what happened...


THE EMPLOYMENT NUMBER ONLY WENT DOWN!!! /gasp
They are not Americans though.  I will admitt that there is a knife problem in Mexico and Cuba.

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