The_Mac
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That movie is full of phail for a number of reasons.

For one thing, slavery didn't make the United States the richest country in the world, for one thing, slavery is a backwards economic institution because it prevents free enterprise and does not stimulate the economy, because producers are not receiving their wages.

Another backward bi-product is the concept of an aristocracy, and everybody else, even white people, were poor, which caused a huge stagnation in Southern society.

What's more is that the founding fathers, including Benjamin Franklin, argued against slavery because of this and for enlightenment ideals.

Thomas Jefferson did too, but he was a flake, and didn't do anything. In fact, he died in debt, and most of his slaves were sold off to reduce his debt.

Another issue he fails to address is that the pilgrims were actually a dissident group in England, but they were living in the Netherlands. They wanted to escape the "dutchification" of their children, and yet they simply didn't like the Church of England.

So they left from The Netherlands. But of course, such historical realities have no place for your skewed message, eh Sergie?
imortal
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The_Mac wrote:

That movie is full of phail for a number of reasons.

For one thing, slavery didn't make the United States the richest country in the world, for one thing, slavery is a backwards economic institution because it prevents free enterprise and does not stimulate the economy, because producers are not receiving their wages.

Another backward bi-product is the concept of an aristocracy, and everybody else, even white people, were poor, which caused a huge stagnation in Southern society.

What's more is that the founding fathers, including Benjamin Franklin, argued against slavery because of this and for enlightenment ideals.

Thomas Jefferson did too, but he was a flake, and didn't do anything. In fact, he died in debt, and most of his slaves were sold off to reduce his debt.

Another issue he fails to address is that the pilgrims were actually a dissident group in England, but they were living in the Netherlands. They wanted to escape the "dutchification" of their children, and yet they simply didn't like the Church of England.

So they left from The Netherlands. But of course, such historical realities have no place for your skewed message, eh Sergie?
You forgot that the slaves were brought to America by the Dutch, not by Americans.  And, IIRC, the Dutch simply befriended some African tribes, gave them guns to fight their enemies with, and traded the guns for the tribes' enemies which became the slaves they sold.
unnamednewbie13
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That clip made my eyes glaze over like those hypnotized kids early in it. I know it's supposed to be funny, but the only twitch of a smile came at the head chopping part. Otherwise, the logic has more holes than a fish net, and about a dozen or so loose ends. Now I guess only white people have guns, and only to shoot black people. Huh.

On another note, Moore should go back to making films like Canadian Bacon. That one was good.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-11 22:12:58)

FEOS
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ghettoperson wrote:

Braddock wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

oh I don't argue some of the messages or even the legitimacy of the base claims made over all ... but ffs ... fucking michael moore.
Michael Moore is undeniably woefully biased (the left wing equivalent of FOX News) but he does raise important points in his films. His problem is he cherry picks the facts and leaves out stuff that doesn't suit his argument.
Agreed. That said, I've only seen Bowling for Columbine, but I'm sure all his movies are the same.
Canadian Bacon wasn't bad.
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