And what if she wants to get married?SenorToenails wrote:
Then don't get married.FallenMorgan wrote:
What if she doesn't want a prenup for whiney little reasons?
QFEParker wrote:
dude, you better figure something out, cause if you are this whiny already, the real world is going to beat the life out of you.FallenMorgan wrote:
then poof it's over and then the rest of your lives are gust a schlog.
Then you find a way to work it out. Rarely are people that far into a relationship and still unable to reach compromise. If they are, their marriage is doomed from the start.FallenMorgan wrote:
And what if she wants to get married?
If two people want to get married, why stop them?
Getting married in 3 months exact.
Small solemnisation exercises at the ROMM ( Registrar of Muslim Marriages) and bigger celebrations at the banquet.
Marriage is about sacrifices, compromise and commitment. And yes , lots of money. For the wedding, the home mortgages and renovations and blah blah.
If u think women are subservient creatures sent by god to do the biddings of men, that is utter bullshit and will see u having endless lonely nights banging yourself with ....yourself.
Women nowadays, despite having the mentality of 5year olds daydreaming of their wedding date, (unfortunately) still have the mentality of adults who know what they want and will go it.
Just been informed that my fishing days are over and that I have to be a more pious Muslim husband. Not to mention that she wants me home by evening to accompany her to religious lessons at the nearby mosque.
Will get over it. Anybody up for a Daiwa Saltiga or a Abu G Ambassador 5500C. ??
In 3 months will have no more use for it.
Small solemnisation exercises at the ROMM ( Registrar of Muslim Marriages) and bigger celebrations at the banquet.
Marriage is about sacrifices, compromise and commitment. And yes , lots of money. For the wedding, the home mortgages and renovations and blah blah.
If u think women are subservient creatures sent by god to do the biddings of men, that is utter bullshit and will see u having endless lonely nights banging yourself with ....yourself.
Women nowadays, despite having the mentality of 5year olds daydreaming of their wedding date, (unfortunately) still have the mentality of adults who know what they want and will go it.
Just been informed that my fishing days are over and that I have to be a more pious Muslim husband. Not to mention that she wants me home by evening to accompany her to religious lessons at the nearby mosque.
Will get over it. Anybody up for a Daiwa Saltiga or a Abu G Ambassador 5500C. ??
In 3 months will have no more use for it.
Pretty much everything you have listed is either non existent or you don't need to be married to receive in Australia.
yeah, that sounds kinda familiar...imortal wrote:
Just wait until you actually get passed on the road and think "Damn kids. And he needs to turn his stereo down too." Scared me when I heard myself say that almost as bad as the first time I got "Sir"ed by a skateboarder on a sidewalk.
Yes, it will happen to you all. If you don't agree with me, then my guess you are too young to know. Other old farts in here? You know what I am talking about.
I am turning 33 this year, btw.
Some of that list is really a matter of convenience, but I was specifically referring to benefits gained in the US. I don't know Australian law.DrunkFace wrote:
Pretty much everything you have listed is either non existent or you don't need to be married to receive in Australia.
I think it depends on how you get married and the real reason why myself. I think the ceremony is just pomp and circumstance and the reception is just an excuse to have a good time but also serves to celebrate the happiness your life is going through. Of course, I have a unique perspective on marriage at this point ...
I think it is important as a symbol and personally don't really care for the religious implications. I care because it is myself offering myself to another and vice of versa. It is an open and loving expression. I think it's important for that aspect, but really can do without most of the trappings of the "institution" which is why I support gay marriage. Marriage is two institutions, sacred and secular. Sacred can do as it pleases, but as for secular - it has legal obligations and the legal institution of marriage also affords tangible financial benefits.
I think it is important as a symbol and personally don't really care for the religious implications. I care because it is myself offering myself to another and vice of versa. It is an open and loving expression. I think it's important for that aspect, but really can do without most of the trappings of the "institution" which is why I support gay marriage. Marriage is two institutions, sacred and secular. Sacred can do as it pleases, but as for secular - it has legal obligations and the legal institution of marriage also affords tangible financial benefits.
first off, i absolutely LOVE how you have dodged every statement i have made.
you must sense my limit for bullshit, smart move son.
but more importantly, i think you need a new member title-Victim.
as you play that role so fucking well, i think everyone should know...that way, we can all take it easy on you.
i would hate to see someone from bf2s victimize you.
and its only a matter of time, with how the world is
you must sense my limit for bullshit, smart move son.
but more importantly, i think you need a new member title-Victim.
as you play that role so fucking well, i think everyone should know...that way, we can all take it easy on you.
i would hate to see someone from bf2s victimize you.
and its only a matter of time, with how the world is
He has dodged everything that wasn't trivial.Parker wrote:
first off, i absolutely LOVE how you have dodged every statement i have made.
you must sense my limit for bullshit, smart move son.
but more importantly, i think you need a new member title-Victim.
as you play that role so fucking well, i think everyone should know...that way, we can all take it easy on you.
i would hate to see someone from bf2s victimize you.
and its only a matter of time, with how the world is
"Happiness is a short-lived thing. You smoke the butt, you eat the food, you have the orgasm, and then you got to fucking work" - Denis LearyParker wrote:
dude, you better figure something out, cause if you are this whiny already, the real world is going to beat the life out of you.FallenMorgan wrote:
then poof it's over and then the rest of your lives are gust a schlog.
So do that. You don't have to tear down the institution of marriage for everyone else so you can be happy.FallenMorgan wrote:
Most people feel compelled by society to "settle down" and have kids. If none of my dreams come true, I just want to get an apartment and live out the rest of my life how I please. I don't work well with others, especially when those others might be a bitchy girl I'm largely stuck with, or an annoying kid.Parker wrote:
you little rebel, you.FallenMorgan wrote:
Seriously, I'm sick of five year old girls dreaming of their wedding day.
so you dont agree with it, then dont get married. most people do, as its the normal thing to do....i know, seeing "the normal thing" makes you want to rebel in the form of text over the internets, but most people would like to settle down, GET MARRIED and raise a family.
you may yet understand this when you get older.
blog away.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
It's tradition; it doesn't really mean anything; it's just a fancy way of agreeing to be good to each other.
And to add, there's always the option of skipping all the traditions and just going to the courthouse.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
It's tradition; it doesn't really mean anything; it's just a fancy way of agreeing to be good to each other.
There is a lot more to marriage than just tradition. I am speaking as one whose marriage is 22 days away. If done correctly, a marriage is MUCH more than just living together. If you are not married, there is always the feeling of "if things get bad, I can always leave." Once that ring is on your finger, you are stuck; you had better work it out.Pug wrote:
And to add, there's always the option of skipping all the traditions and just going to the courthouse.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
It's tradition; it doesn't really mean anything; it's just a fancy way of agreeing to be good to each other.
Oh, and for those who want to say you can just get divorced, look at those wedding vows. You are swearing by all that you hold dear (or to God himself, for those among you who believe in such), that you will be together as long as you both shall live. Nothing in those wedding vows about divorce. If you do the marriage right and marry for the right reasons, then you should not need to worry about divorce.
Marriage has meaning as long as those who get married believe in it. Marriage, as with most concepts, only means as much as you believe it does. If you do not believe in marriage, find a partner who agrees with you, and live happily ever after without getting married. I will not think badly of you. But just because you do not believe in marriage, don't knock the concept or the people who do believe in it, just because you do not agree with it.
It's a tradition that's supposed to represent security and comfort. Or rather, that's what the government thought before people started marrying after knowing each other for 2 months. People now think it automatically ensures that you'll be in a stable/secure relationship.
Marriage is a good tradition, as it makes us look for someone meaningful in life - and makes an ideal atmosphere for raising kids.
If you don't want to raise kids, then don't. If you don't want to get married, don't. But what's wrong with marriage? There are plenty of other options out there for you if you don't want it, and most people enjoy having the tradition.
I sure as hell know that I will want to settle down, get married and have kids some day (I like a comfortable life).
-konfusion
Marriage is a good tradition, as it makes us look for someone meaningful in life - and makes an ideal atmosphere for raising kids.
If you don't want to raise kids, then don't. If you don't want to get married, don't. But what's wrong with marriage? There are plenty of other options out there for you if you don't want it, and most people enjoy having the tradition.
I sure as hell know that I will want to settle down, get married and have kids some day (I like a comfortable life).
-konfusion
...Raising kids who conform to society.
One thing I dislike is the tradition of the female taking the guy's last name, and it's a bunch of legal hoops trying to make it so the guy takes her last name if the situation happens. I dislike that whole idea, it comes from the idea of the woman being a ward of her husband instead of a ward of her father, way back when.
One thing I dislike is the tradition of the female taking the guy's last name, and it's a bunch of legal hoops trying to make it so the guy takes her last name if the situation happens. I dislike that whole idea, it comes from the idea of the woman being a ward of her husband instead of a ward of her father, way back when.
It harkens back to a time back when daughters were given away or sold by the family off to another family. Or when a clan steals the woman from her clan to marry into theirs.FallenMorgan wrote:
...Raising kids who conform to society.
One thing I dislike is the tradition of the female taking the guy's last name, and it's a bunch of legal hoops trying to make it so the guy takes her last name if the situation happens. I dislike that whole idea, it comes from the idea of the woman being a ward of her husband instead of a ward of her father, way back when.
How you raise your kids is up to you. Nice of you to automatically assume they would "conform."
If you don't like it, don't get married. Just don't knock those who do. How hard of a concept is that?
There are many people who keep their last names. And that's not even new.FallenMorgan wrote:
...Raising kids who conform to society.
One thing I dislike is the tradition of the female taking the guy's last name, and it's a bunch of legal hoops trying to make it so the guy takes her last name if the situation happens. I dislike that whole idea, it comes from the idea of the woman being a ward of her husband instead of a ward of her father, way back when.
A professor at my university (who is like 85 or 90 years old) got married a long time ago and kept her last name. She attained notoriety prior to marriage, and it would have killed her career as a scientist to give up her name and the recognition that went with it.
ATG wrote:
QFEParker wrote:
dude, you better figure something out, cause if you are this whiny already, the real world is going to beat the life out of you.FallenMorgan wrote:
then poof it's over and then the rest of your lives are gust a schlog.
Sticky situation there. "Don't you trust me? I thought we loved each other..."SenorToenails wrote:
Then don't get married.FallenMorgan wrote:
What if she doesn't want a prenup for whiney little reasons?
Sticky situation indeed. If arguments went like that, chances are your marriage is doomed. Though, I probably should have said "Then don't get married until you can work it out."unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Sticky situation there. "Don't you trust me? I thought we loved each other..."
Seriously, if you both think you'll be together forever, then why not have a prenup? It won't change anything in the long run if that happens.
Wouldn't it be nice if all women were that logical?SenorToenails wrote:
Sticky situation indeed. If arguments went like that, chances are your marriage is doomed. Though, I probably should have said "Then don't get married until you can work it out."unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Sticky situation there. "Don't you trust me? I thought we loved each other..."
Seriously, if you both think you'll be together forever, then why not have a prenup? It won't change anything in the long run if that happens.
All I can really say is: "keep your receipts."
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It would be.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if all women were that logical?
But, if you can't discuss and agree on something before marriage, what makes you think that things will be better after the wedding?