BF2S Forums Sorry folks, McCain may have "experience," but he doesn't know shit...

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

I'd move to Canada if another Republican won.  If you notice, debt has gone up during a Republican presidency.  We had three Republican presidents in a row before the Great Depression.  A Democrat, FDR, cleaned it all up.  We need a Democrat to mop up Bush's monkey shit.

My god...where do you come up with this crap. Take a brief history lesson back to just before you were born and remember what happened in the 70's and who was leading us then and then what happened during the 80's and who ruled then. Anyhow, its cyclical to a point and honestly our economy has held up under some extreme conditions. Who knows how long it will hold up though.

If you want to know what this country will be like under Hillary Clinton....look no further than Michigan. Michigan is under Democratic control and a Democratic Governor and they have put Michigan into a one state recession before the country started showing signs of recession. Granholm(the Democratic Governor) has taxed and spent the hell out of Michigan and its people and she is just like Clinton in her actions, her talk and her promises. Michigan has the worst housing crisis in the United States, its in a recession, she continues to spend and tax and now she is shutting down programs, schools etc. to protect what she feels she needs to spend on. But of course there is always room for a pat on the back on a raise or two for themselves. This is how the Dems are running things her in Michigan.....I wonder why everyone is moving away, why whole neighborhoods lay empty and for sale signs every where......hmmmm....yes, Democrats will do so much better....NOT!!!!

Every Democratic president has brought debt down.  All Republican presidents have brought debt up.  Explain.

FallenMorgan wrote:

Explain.

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FallenMorgan wrote:

Every Democratic president has brought debt down.  All Republican presidents have brought debt up.  Explain.

Dems also got us into Vietnam, and the Cuban missle crisis.  You really need a clue kid.

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CameronPoe wrote:

He's getting too old for this. At his age, you can't seriously expect him not to make ridiculous faux pas' that would cause diplomatic incidents if he were president....

Yet Hillary dodges sniper fire and Obama is preoccupied with race.

But it's better than putting an angry Irishman in office. He'd push the red button just because it's there.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

We might have another big Depression, and everyone knows what that means:

Stupid people following evil people.  That's how Hitler got to power. [Another democratic president will push the Second New Deal.]

Fixed.

How about government stop excise-taxing the shit out of small businesses so we can afford to hire on more people.

DER.

How about also stop giving tax breaks to corporations so that small businesses can actually compete with them?

Of course, that's something that neither party will touch since both of them are run by corporations.

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The_Mac wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Of course, that's something that neither party will touch since both of them are run by corporations.

meanwhile, the Democrats just want the biggest corporations to survive, because big corporations like big government.

Um...  If you haven't noticed, the biggest corporations connected to the government are of the military industrial complex, which has been favored by the Republicans for the last 30 years or so.

Of course, there was a time when the Democrats were the big military types too.

FallenMorgan wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

I'd move to Canada if another Republican won.  If you notice, debt has gone up during a Republican presidency.  We had three Republican presidents in a row before the Great Depression.  A Democrat, FDR, cleaned it all up.  We need a Democrat to mop up Bush's monkey shit.

My god...where do you come up with this crap. Take a brief history lesson back to just before you were born and remember what happened in the 70's and who was leading us then and then what happened during the 80's and who ruled then. Anyhow, its cyclical to a point and honestly our economy has held up under some extreme conditions. Who knows how long it will hold up though.

If you want to know what this country will be like under Hillary Clinton....look no further than Michigan. Michigan is under Democratic control and a Democratic Governor and they have put Michigan into a one state recession before the country started showing signs of recession. Granholm(the Democratic Governor) has taxed and spent the hell out of Michigan and its people and she is just like Clinton in her actions, her talk and her promises. Michigan has the worst housing crisis in the United States, its in a recession, she continues to spend and tax and now she is shutting down programs, schools etc. to protect what she feels she needs to spend on. But of course there is always room for a pat on the back on a raise or two for themselves. This is how the Dems are running things her in Michigan.....I wonder why everyone is moving away, why whole neighborhoods lay empty and for sale signs every where......hmmmm....yes, Democrats will do so much better....NOT!!!!

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Every Democratic president has brought debt down.  All Republican presidents have brought debt up.  Explain.

This is what I am talking about...you don't get it. There are many other factors that run our economy and a chart about one thing doesn't prove anything. I know you are only about 15 years old and that shows. You were born in the 90's....so what real life experience do you have? None...I have lived during the 70's, 80's, 90's and now into the first decade of 2000. I have owned my own business since 1995, probably almost as long as you have been alive and I know how my economics have been affected by Republican and Democratic rule and for you to say you would move if another Republican is elected is just flat out based on nothing but internet influence and ignorance.

Like I said, I live in Michigan and Michigan has been taken to the dumps because of Democratic leadership and our Hillary clone as its leader. Take a look at what is happening, read some real news stories or better yet, speak to someone who lives, works and owns businesses in Michigan. I don't need dumb ass charts to see what is happening. It is happening to me personally and I can thank our Democratic leadership in Michigan for its tax and spend policies and for putting us into a one state recession. If you want a leader that is Democrat and your choices are Hillary and Obama....then pray that someone else or something changes before they (especially Clinton) get in power, then Michigan will not be alone in the dumps.

I totally agree with you, that is the point I was trying to make to him was that you cant single out just Republicans for the mess we are in. I can however blame the Dems here in Michigan because they have been in power for quite awhile. Hillary Clinton and our Jennifer Granholm are basically one in the same and having Clinton as president would be a disaster. Obama, I am not sure of yet, even though, the more I hear and read, the more I feel that he doesn't look good either. I see myself as neither Democrat or Republican. Just get people in office that will work for us, not for power, for party or because they don't know how to do anything else. But when someone comes in here and basically blames the Republicans for everything, then they are short sighted and have a lot to learn.

Yes, I will blame the Dems in Michigan, that is what I am living here in Michigan and I would blame the Republicans if they were in charge, but I will not make a broad statement and lame blame on one party about the total mess we have in this country.

Tushers wrote:

tbh i would rather have mccain nam vet

Being a Vietnam war veteran contributes about as much to your qualifications for becoming the president of a country as being able to tie your shoes does.

I'd rather have a president who isn't an idiot, and knows his way around the problems that he'll be facing. Clearly, McCain doesn't have a clue, Hillary can't be trusted from one day to another, and Obama has a lot to prove. Personally, I'd rather risk relying on potential than going with the lesser of two inadequacies.

Pug wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Tushers wrote:

tbh i would rather have mccain nam vet

Being a Vietnam war veteran contributes about as much to your qualifications for becoming the president of a country as being able to tie your shoes does.

I'd rather have a president who isn't an idiot, and knows his way around the problems that he'll be facing. Clearly, McCain doesn't have a clue, Hillary can't be trusted from one day to another, and Obama has a lot to prove. Personally, I'd rather risk relying on potential than going with the lesser of two inadequacies.

i would think if the country is involved with a war, being a veteran in an unpopular war does mean a little more than being able to tie your shoes.

i personally believe no matter who we have in office, we'll still be in Iraq when the next election comes around unfortunately.  i don't believe they'll pull out as soon as they're saying.

If anything, it could make you less objective. I wouldn't immediately trust a person with McCain's history to handle any armed conflict rationally, objectively and with measured responses. By that, I'm by no means saying that he wouldn't be capable of it, but I feel that the only thing his history of armed service adds to his potential presidency is uncertainty. It's a big change to go from seeing a war as a direct and physical confrontation to having simply an ancillary role in the conflict.

Aren't these yankees about tired of voting in conservative idiots?  What kind of a democracy does US have holy shit?

ATG wrote:

Black+radical friends+uncertainty=interesting times.

Isn't there an ancient Chinese curse that translates to "May you live in interesting times?"

The last time I checked he wasn't running for office in Free Iraq.

          Its sad but The only thing McCain has going for him is that he is by far the best of the three, Its a lock.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2008-04-13 16:02:16)