after he mounts you?Vilham wrote:
lmy mate mounts the guns.jord wrote:
Be a minigun door gunner.
Pew pew pew pew
zing
zing
Seriously marine, isn't it before 12 there. Drinking before 12 is a sign of alcohol problems.usmarine wrote:
after he mounts you?Vilham wrote:
lmy mate mounts the guns.jord wrote:
Be a minigun door gunner.
Pew pew pew pew
zing
zing
im at work school boy
im not at work, im chilling at home before uni starts again. ah what a wonderful life.
thank yur mum and dadVilham wrote:
im not at work, im chilling at home before uni starts again. ah what a wonderful life.
ill thank the government actually. seeing as my parents arent paying for it.usmarine wrote:
thank yur mum and dadVilham wrote:
im not at work, im chilling at home before uni starts again. ah what a wonderful life.
Presumably you should thank yourself, as unless the government gave you a scholarship, you're paying for it later.Vilham wrote:
ill thank the government actually. seeing as my parents arent paying for it.usmarine wrote:
thank yur mum and dadVilham wrote:
im not at work, im chilling at home before uni starts again. ah what a wonderful life.
Never?
A frind of mine is joining the Marines Reserve to go to college, but i have no idea how that works.
True, but they are kind enough to give me a loan on a better than normal rate.ghettoperson wrote:
Presumably you should thank yourself, as unless the government gave you a scholarship, you're paying for it later.Vilham wrote:
ill thank the government actually. seeing as my parents arent paying for it.usmarine wrote:
thank yur mum and dad
I'll be seeing a recruiter either later this month or later this year. My flight school is taking us on a trip to a fairly large private airport (Republic Airport in Farmingdale, NY - Google it) so we'll see what happens.
I already prepared what questions I want to ask. Someone told me to do that so that they don't try to convince me to do something I don't want to do. Forgot who it was though.
I already prepared what questions I want to ask. Someone told me to do that so that they don't try to convince me to do something I don't want to do. Forgot who it was though.
What exact reasoning do you have for giving that as answer?sergeriver wrote:
Never?
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jet whore
I wish. One recruiter I talked to in March said it's really, really not likely.SamTheMan:D wrote:
jet whore
I'd most likely be flying a cargo plane or something to that effect with the licenses I'm getting. No jets.
oh wellPoseidon wrote:
I wish. One recruiter I talked to in March said it's really, really not likely.SamTheMan:D wrote:
jet whore
I'd most likely be flying a cargo plane or something to that effect with the licenses I'm getting. No jets.
good luck anyway mate and don't listen to sergeriver
Come again? FAA licensing and Air Force training are NOT the same. Military pilots can move to jets WAY before 1000 hours.Poseidon wrote:
I wish. One recruiter I talked to in March said it's really, really not likely.SamTheMan:D wrote:
jet whore
I'd most likely be flying a cargo plane or something to that effect with the licenses I'm getting. No jets.
If your recruiter told you that your civilian license would limit what airframe you can fly, you need to find a new recruiter.
He just said the chances of me flying a jet are not likely, due to the overwhelming amounts of requests to do so. Who knows, he could have been talking out his ass. But I doubt that.RAIMIUS wrote:
Come again? FAA licensing and Air Force training are NOT the same. Military pilots can move to jets WAY before 1000 hours.Poseidon wrote:
I wish. One recruiter I talked to in March said it's really, really not likely.SamTheMan:D wrote:
jet whore
I'd most likely be flying a cargo plane or something to that effect with the licenses I'm getting. No jets.
If your recruiter told you that your civilian license would limit what airframe you can fly, you need to find a new recruiter.
And yes, I know FAA licensing and AF Training are not the same.
I'd LOVE to fly a jet, but I just don't see it happening.
I don't know if anyone's ever told you this...but never never never never never trust a recruiter. Never.Poseidon wrote:
He just said the chances of me flying a jet are not likely, due to the overwhelming amounts of requests to do so. Who knows, he could have been talking out his ass. But I doubt that.RAIMIUS wrote:
Come again? FAA licensing and Air Force training are NOT the same. Military pilots can move to jets WAY before 1000 hours.Poseidon wrote:
I wish. One recruiter I talked to in March said it's really, really not likely.
I'd most likely be flying a cargo plane or something to that effect with the licenses I'm getting. No jets.
If your recruiter told you that your civilian license would limit what airframe you can fly, you need to find a new recruiter.
And yes, I know FAA licensing and AF Training are not the same.
I'd LOVE to fly a jet, but I just don't see it happening.
That recruiter is an idiot or a liar.
The only thing that determines what aircraft you fly is how well you do during UPT. If you finish first, you get your pick of the cockpits available. If you finish last, you get what's left.
I have to warn you, though: many IPs would rather train someone with no aviation background. Their rationale is that they don't want to teach the students to "unlearn" bad habits.
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“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
LOLPoseidon wrote:
Yeah, thanks a lot. Real useful information. Dickhead.Nyte wrote:
Military first, because once you get killed in combat then your parents don't have to pay for college.
When would I go through UPT?FEOS wrote:
I don't know if anyone's ever told you this...but never never never never never trust a recruiter. Never.Poseidon wrote:
He just said the chances of me flying a jet are not likely, due to the overwhelming amounts of requests to do so. Who knows, he could have been talking out his ass. But I doubt that.RAIMIUS wrote:
Come again? FAA licensing and Air Force training are NOT the same. Military pilots can move to jets WAY before 1000 hours.
If your recruiter told you that your civilian license would limit what airframe you can fly, you need to find a new recruiter.
And yes, I know FAA licensing and AF Training are not the same.
I'd LOVE to fly a jet, but I just don't see it happening.
That recruiter is an idiot or a liar.
The only thing that determines what aircraft you fly is how well you do during UPT. If you finish first, you get your pick of the cockpits available. If you finish last, you get what's left.
I have to warn you, though: many IPs would rather train someone with no aviation background. Their rationale is that they don't want to teach the students to "unlearn" bad habits.
Once you get through ROTC/OTS/USAFA and get selected for it.Poseidon wrote:
When would I go through UPT?FEOS wrote:
I don't know if anyone's ever told you this...but never never never never never trust a recruiter. Never.Poseidon wrote:
He just said the chances of me flying a jet are not likely, due to the overwhelming amounts of requests to do so. Who knows, he could have been talking out his ass. But I doubt that.
And yes, I know FAA licensing and AF Training are not the same.
I'd LOVE to fly a jet, but I just don't see it happening.
That recruiter is an idiot or a liar.
The only thing that determines what aircraft you fly is how well you do during UPT. If you finish first, you get your pick of the cockpits available. If you finish last, you get what's left.
I have to warn you, though: many IPs would rather train someone with no aviation background. Their rationale is that they don't want to teach the students to "unlearn" bad habits.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I assume the CCAF has UPT as well, or...?FEOS wrote:
Once you get through ROTC/OTS/USAFA and get selected for it.Poseidon wrote:
When would I go through UPT?FEOS wrote:
I don't know if anyone's ever told you this...but never never never never never trust a recruiter. Never.
That recruiter is an idiot or a liar.
The only thing that determines what aircraft you fly is how well you do during UPT. If you finish first, you get your pick of the cockpits available. If you finish last, you get what's left.
I have to warn you, though: many IPs would rather train someone with no aviation background. Their rationale is that they don't want to teach the students to "unlearn" bad habits.
CCAF? That's for enlisted folks to get their associate's degrees.Poseidon wrote:
I assume the CCAF has UPT as well, or...?FEOS wrote:
Once you get through ROTC/OTS/USAFA and get selected for it.Poseidon wrote:
When would I go through UPT?
Sounds like you're talking to an enlisted recruiter who's looking to get you to enlist. No wonder he said you likely wouldn't fly jets, since enlisted personnel can't be pilots. Make sure you tell him you're looking into OTS...otherwise, you have no need to talk to a recruiter. Talk to either the ROTC staff at the university you want to attend (ERU, if I remember correctly) or find a local USAFA liaison officer.
Last edited by FEOS (2008-09-08 03:22:04)
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Degree + Commission + UPT = USAF pilot.
That's the equation.
You have to be an officer (degree + commission), and get selected for UPT.
That's the equation.
You have to be an officer (degree + commission), and get selected for UPT.
Yeah, I know enlisted can't be pilots. What I wanted to do was join when I'm 18, get my degree while I'm enlisted, and then move up to officer once I'm able to. Is that possible?FEOS wrote:
CCAF? That's for enlisted folks to get their associate's degrees.Poseidon wrote:
I assume the CCAF has UPT as well, or...?FEOS wrote:
Once you get through ROTC/OTS/USAFA and get selected for it.
Sounds like you're talking to an enlisted recruiter who's looking to get you to enlist. No wonder he said you likely wouldn't fly jets, since enlisted personnel can't be pilots. Make sure you tell him you're looking into OTS...otherwise, you have no need to talk to a recruiter. Talk to either the ROTC staff at the university you want to attend (ERU, if I remember correctly) or find a local USAFA liaison officer.
And yes, Embry-Riddle is where I'd be going if I decide to go to college first.
The only reason I'm considering enlisting after high school is because I was told that I'd be able to get everything I'd get in college (education wise) for free. No student loans? No debt? Sounds good to me. Of course, he was probably bullshitting me, but whatever.
Yes, you can do that. However, it is a more complex route.Poseidon wrote:
Yeah, I know enlisted can't be pilots. What I wanted to do was join when I'm 18, get my degree while I'm enlisted, and then move up to officer once I'm able to. Is that possible?
The only reason I'm considering enlisting after high school is because I was told that I'd be able to get everything I'd get in college (education wise) for free. No student loans? No debt? Sounds good to me. Of course, he was probably bullshitting me, but whatever.
USAFA has no tuition. Room and board are covered, plus cadets get paid.
AFROTC has varying scholarships that can cover tuition and books. Also, some schools will cover any expenses not covered by the ROTC scholarship (I'm not sure about ERAU, but at least one school I considered would have done that).
Also, USAFA and AFROTC get over 80% of the Air Force's available UPT slots.
Roughly 50% of USAFA cadets can get pilot slots.
About 40% of ROTC cadets can get pilot slots.
I don't know what ratio of OTS candidates can get slots.
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