why oh why MSI you have to put those ridiculous looking very tall NB coolers in every board...
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If you turn processor's fan so it looks down it may also effectively cool NB heatsink.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
why oh why MSI you have to put those ridiculous looking very tall NB coolers in every board...
still there is 1000 at least as good ways to cool NB without making it hard to have a large CPU cooler..Sup wrote:
If you turn processor's fan so it looks down it may also effectively cool NB heatsink.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
why oh why MSI you have to put those ridiculous looking very tall NB coolers in every board...
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but most people that use "enthusiast" mobos will use some form of tower cooler for the CPU.Sup wrote:
If you turn processor's fan so it looks down it may also effectively cool NB heatsink.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
why oh why MSI you have to put those ridiculous looking very tall NB coolers in every board...
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Dunno what you mean with tower cooler. Like TRUE? If so then thats exactly what i meant.max wrote:
but most people that use "enthusiast" mobos will use some form of tower cooler for the CPU.Sup wrote:
If you turn processor's fan so it looks down it may also effectively cool NB heatsink.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
why oh why MSI you have to put those ridiculous looking very tall NB coolers in every board...
like thermaltake 120's, freezer7pros, most of the sythe ... The Nothbridge only gets in the way of those and the CPU cooler won't blow any air over them.Sup wrote:
Dunno what you mean with tower cooler. Like TRUE? If so then thats exactly what i meant.max wrote:
but most people that use "enthusiast" mobos will use some form of tower cooler for the CPU.Sup wrote:
If you turn processor's fan so it looks down it may also effectively cool NB heatsink.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Look at this pic.max wrote:
like thermaltake 120's, freezer7pros, most of the sythe ... The Nothbridge only gets in the way of those and the CPU cooler won't blow any air over them.Sup wrote:
Dunno what you mean with tower cooler. Like TRUE? If so then thats exactly what i meant.max wrote:
but most people that use "enthusiast" mobos will use some form of tower cooler for the CPU
The black is TRUE turned differently and red is a fan on top of it blowing down ways. How can the NB cooler get in the way here?
If you turn the cooler by 90° from it's original position you loose cooling on the CPU (the case fan can't pull out the air properly anymore) and in the case as a whole (back casefan can't get rid of heat effectively anymore, CPU heat net getting sucked out but says inside, you get weird airflow patterns).Sup wrote:
Look at this pic.max wrote:
like thermaltake 120's, freezer7pros, most of the sythe ... The Nothbridge only gets in the way of those and the CPU cooler won't blow any air over them.Sup wrote:
Dunno what you mean with tower cooler. Like TRUE? If so then thats exactly what i meant.
http://shrani.si/f/k/eo/4pkXOi3u/untitled-1.png
The black is TRUE turned differently and red is a fan on top of it blowing down ways. How can the NB cooler get in the way here?
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
looks like Zalman 9700 series are pretty much not compatible... or at least the installation is mission impossible. really... it was hard enough to mount 9700NT to P5E that has NB heatsink of same height as the ram sticks. That nuts MSI cooler is like twice as high...
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I'm just saying if all the components are cooled well and the NB isn't you might go for that option. But as you said it isn't very practical since airflow wouldn't be the best.max wrote:
If you turn the cooler by 90° from it's original position you loose cooling on the CPU (the case fan can't pull out the air properly anymore) and in the case as a whole (back casefan can't get rid of heat effectively anymore, CPU heat net getting sucked out but says inside, you get weird airflow patterns).Sup wrote:
Look at this pic.max wrote:
like thermaltake 120's, freezer7pros, most of the sythe ... The Nothbridge only gets in the way of those and the CPU cooler won't blow any air over them
http://shrani.si/f/k/eo/4pkXOi3u/untitled-1.png
The black is TRUE turned differently and red is a fan on top of it blowing down ways. How can the NB cooler get in the way here?
I´m not saying it can't be done, it's just a bad implementation. Anyhow I'd like to see a proper northbrige cooler with an actual fan on it rather than the whole 500m heatpipe-bullshit. Look at this eVGA board, thats how it should be:
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active cooling, small enough so that any cooler fits, not too loud, all necessary components get cooled
.active cooling, small enough so that any cooler fits, not too loud, all necessary components get cooled
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
This reference cooling solution by nvidia made me NOT to buy this EVGA board. If you read GURU3ds review you know why. All 100% of the heat from NB is blown on the backside of the GPU.max wrote:
I´m not saying it can't be done, it's just a bad implementation. Anyhow I'd like to see a proper northbrige cooler with an actual fan on it rather than the whole 500m heatpipe-bullshit. Look at this eVGA board, thats how it should be:
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-12-17/780i_right.jpg.
active cooling, small enough so that any cooler fits, not too loud, all necessary components get cooled
better than having an overheating northbridge like on my P5N32-e SLI.Sup wrote:
This reference cooling solution by nvidia made me NOT to buy this EVGA board. If you read GURU3ds review you know why. All 100% of the heat from NB is blown on the backside of the GPU.max wrote:
I´m not saying it can't be done, it's just a bad implementation. Anyhow I'd like to see a proper northbrige cooler with an actual fan on it rather than the whole 500m heatpipe-bullshit. Look at this eVGA board, thats how it should be:
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-12-17/780i_right.jpg.
active cooling, small enough so that any cooler fits, not too loud, all necessary components get cooled
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Having overheated GPU is not better than overheated NB. Everest shows 26 degrees Celsius idle on my P5E NB.max wrote:
better than having an overheating northbridge like on my P5N32-e SLI.Sup wrote:
This reference cooling solution by nvidia made me NOT to buy this EVGA board. If you read GURU3ds review you know why. All 100% of the heat from NB is blown on the backside of the GPU.max wrote:
I´m not saying it can't be done, it's just a bad implementation. Anyhow I'd like to see a proper northbrige cooler with an actual fan on it rather than the whole 500m heatpipe-bullshit. Look at this eVGA board, thats how it should be:
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-12-17/780i_right.jpg.
active cooling, small enough so that any cooler fits, not too loud, all necessary components get cooled
Probs a good time to ask then, what is a safe temperature for your mobo under load? Mine gets to 44C under load and 38C idle.Sup wrote:
Having overheated GPU is not better than overheated NB. Everest shows 26 degrees Celsius idle on my P5E NB.max wrote:
better than having an overheating northbridge like on my P5N32-e SLI.Sup wrote:
This reference cooling solution by nvidia made me NOT to buy this EVGA board. If you read GURU3ds review you know why. All 100% of the heat from NB is blown on the backside of the GPU.
Thats okay. Mobos are very tough when it comes to high temperatures. The can outstand higher temps than a processor.Aries_37 wrote:
Probs a good time to ask then, what is a safe temperature for your mobo under load? Mine gets to 44C under load and 38C idle.Sup wrote:
Having overheated GPU is not better than overheated NB. Everest shows 26 degrees Celsius idle on my P5E NB.max wrote:
better than having an overheating northbridge like on my P5N32-e SLI
I don't like the eVGA and XFX cooling solutions on the 780i and 790i, it blows are straight to the back of your graphics card, right on the GPU for which you bought that 50,00 cooler for. I like ASUS's solutions, they give 2 20mm fans that you can put on you motherboard without it blowing air onto you GPU but blows it to the back and to the top
Engi look at post no.13._NL_Lt.EngineerFox wrote:
I don't like the eVGA and XFX cooling solutions on the 780i and 790i, it blows are straight to the back of your graphics card, right on the GPU for which you bought that 50,00 cooler for. I like ASUS's solutions, they give 2 20mm fans that you can put on you motherboard without it blowing air onto you GPU but blows it to the back and to the top
decent cooler on the GPU should solve that problem. Also NBs don't put out _THAT_ much heat.Sup wrote:
Having overheated GPU is not better than overheated NB. Everest shows 26 degrees Celsius idle on my P5E NB.max wrote:
better than having an overheating northbridge like on my P5N32-e SLI.Sup wrote:
This reference cooling solution by nvidia made me NOT to buy this EVGA board. If you read GURU3ds review you know why. All 100% of the heat from NB is blown on the backside of the GPU.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
So EVGA 780i and stock GFX cooling is a nono? Regarding the NB heat output- I was just pointing out that mobos are more heat resistant than processors not saying it actually generates that much heat.max wrote:
decent cooler on the GPU should solve that problem. Also NBs don't put out _THAT_ much heat.Sup wrote:
Having overheated GPU is not better than overheated NB. Everest shows 26 degrees Celsius idle on my P5E NB.max wrote:
better than having an overheating northbridge like on my P5N32-e SLI
not at all. What I meant to say is that the TDP of the NB isn't all that high. If your gpu temps rise a few degrees that shouldn't be too bad. Better at least than all those passive designs that idle at 50°. Also that evga design isn't ideal, just a lot better than most (IMO).Sup wrote:
So EVGA 780i and stock GFX cooling is a nono? Regarding the NB heat output- I was just pointing out that mobos are more heat resistant than processors not saying it actually generates that much heat.max wrote:
decent cooler on the GPU should solve that problem. Also NBs don't put out _THAT_ much heat.Sup wrote:
Having overheated GPU is not better than overheated NB. Everest shows 26 degrees Celsius idle on my P5E NB.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
As i said my idle temps are 26 degrees Celsius which i think is really good. Whats yours and on what mobo?max wrote:
not at all. What I meant to say is that the TDP of the NB isn't all that high. If your gpu temps rise a few degrees that shouldn't be too bad. Better at least than all those passive designs that idle at 50°. Also that evga design isn't ideal, just a lot better than most (IMO).Sup wrote:
So EVGA 780i and stock GFX cooling is a nono? Regarding the NB heat output- I was just pointing out that mobos are more heat resistant than processors not saying it actually generates that much heat.max wrote:
decent cooler on the GPU should solve that problem. Also NBs don't put out _THAT_ much heat
with a 40mm fan ghetto modded on top like 35-40, stock in the 50's
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
40-50c heremax wrote:
with a 40mm fan ghetto modded on top like 35-40, stock in the 50's
was 35c with 12cm fan blowing air on it.
sup you absolutely sure your temps are 26c? try asus probe 2.
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