ATG
Banned
+5,233|6952|Global Command
Genetically engineered food. A loss of knowledge of how to farm, raise and slaughter animals. Dependence on a food supply chain that relies on gas fueled trucks and trains in a unstable time.
Very dangerous.

I've gotten interested in urban farming, and we are redoing our yard. I have a 40' X 30' slope that I am going to attempt to farm. Koi or turtles outside shall help generate my own organic fertilizer along with recycled awsm water from my fish tank.

Just imagine how annoyed the big farms would be if we didn't need to buy their processed shitty canned glop and vegetables that have been giving people e-coli?



AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6576|what

Not everyone has the time, money or will to farm for themselves. Does that make them a bad person? No.

Genetically engineered food is a good thing. It means there is more food, better yield crops, faster growth and I could keep going.

But good luck growing your own vegetables.
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Canin
Conservative Roman Catholic
+280|6898|Foothills of S. Carolina

My father in law has his own garden, grows all sorts of veggies. Course he is semi retired and has ample time to piddle in the garden. That said, I too may be starting a smaller garden, grow a few things like beans and lettuce, maybe a melon or two. I have noticed a good many people in my area have their own gardens, and some of them sell their surplus on the side of the road.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7189|UK
My family grows our own vegetables, thats things like, lettuce, tomatoes, potatoes, rocket, bunch of herbs, beans, courgettes, strawberrys, bunch of kind of berrys. We have a smallish garden seeing as we live in the country side, we also have good soil and my dad enjoys it. However not everyone does, clearly that woman in the video doesnt have a full time job, if she did she would not have time to be hand washing clothes aswell as looking after the garden, which they claim not to use chemicals on, if you dont use chemicals you have to go through your plants by hand killing insects like slugs and other pests.

Ill also point out that GM/GE food is not bad. Very ignorant hippies seem to think it is, but thats because they dont understand the science behind it, increasing the productivity of plants by effectively making them evolve to better suit the environment is not bad. Its just speeding up a job nature will do anyway.

Last edited by Vilham (2008-04-26 08:18:51)

JahManRed
wank
+646|7051|IRELAND

Doing something similar myself at the minute. Have three horses eating down an acre and a half. In two weeks we are planting Turnip, carrots, leeks and potatoes. Along with a herb garden. Should be OK for vedge. Its just big enough that it can be done by tractor.

We are surrounded by farms full of bristling new government subsidised machinery and not one of them does any actual farming. They get the one farm payment from the government which goes by acres not stock. My neighbour gets £120 000 a year ffs. That's three good wages to do fuck all. So I have plenty of machinery at my disposal.

Also trying to buy an acre to plant fast growing pine on with a mind to chopping it down in 15 years as fuel prices will keep going up. I have wood burning stoves in my house and we have a big stockpile of timber that should last 3-4 years.

There are plenty of wild goats and dear in the forests around here also and they are good eating. I'm preparing, just in case the shit hits the fan.
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6838|Vienna

Not a bad idea to grow you own food if you have time for it. And you will need a lot of time for it.
I suggest you grow something that requires less attention and can be stored for a long time. Best would probably be to plant fruit trees. It needs much less work than most vegetables.

Anyway food shortage is not hitting developed and rich western countries. We are throwing away more food per person than its consumed per person in third world. In Austria about 1/4 of "factory" bread is returned back from the stores because it doesnt get sold. Also I bet that alot of the bread thats sold still gets thrown away. It could feed millions of people...

@ JahManRed from experience I can tell you that if the shit hits the fan all you need is a big stockpile of cigarettes. They are worth more than gold.

Last edited by zeidmaan (2008-04-26 09:27:13)

ThaReaper
Banned
+410|7063
I'm growing carrots in my back yard lol. Along with some cherries. apples, and cotton.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina
What about people living in apartments?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6828|North Carolina

sergeriver wrote:

What about people living in apartments?
Grow weed in your closet...  oh... I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6963|byah

Turquoise wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

What about people living in apartments?
Grow weed in your closet...  oh... I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?
i didnt hear anything
jord
Member
+2,382|7101|The North, beyond the wall.

Turquoise wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

What about people living in apartments?
Grow weed in your closet...  oh... I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?
I never get the seeds with my Weed. I guess that makes it good to smoke, but no plants for me.
imortal
Member
+240|7088|Austin, TX

sergeriver wrote:

What about people living in apartments?
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Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6606|Ireland

ATG wrote:

Genetically engineered food. A loss of knowledge of how to farm, raise and slaughter animals. Dependence on a food supply chain that relies on gas fueled trucks and trains in a unstable time.
Very dangerous.

I've gotten interested in urban farming, and we are redoing our yard. I have a 40' X 30' slope that I am going to attempt to farm. Koi or turtles outside shall help generate my own organic fertilizer along with recycled awsm water from my fish tank.

Just imagine how annoyed the big farms would be if we didn't need to buy their processed shitty canned glop and vegetables that have been giving people e-coli?
I could grow enough hemp on my 1/4 acre lot to pay off my house in a year.

Seriously this is a ton of work and veggies spoil VERY quickly.  I plant some corn in my back yard in the spring in 3 day intervals so that come late summer I get fresh corn for about a month and a half free.  Corn takes very little work to grow which is good because it only costs about $1 for 10 ears when it is in season, but I like fresh stuff.  I also plant strawberries, raspberries, and Peas because I like to be able to have those fresh and it doesn't matter if some spoils because they keep producing.  With this I used to hunt and fish a lot and that provided a lot of my meat through the year.   

I will be busy this weekend planting the usuals, but in noway will give myself a second job like the hippies in the video.  Certain things are just to cheap to get at the store compared to the work it takes to grow them.  I know because I was raised farming on a 13000 acre farm and also tending to a 1/4 acre garden.  Mucho shitty oh work. 

Oh and btw, if you and your wife start wearing 100% hemp tydye clothing like hippies be sure to post a picture for us to enjoy.  Especially one of your wifes hairy arm pits
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7098|Canberra, AUS
Transport costs don't help.
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Smithereener
Member
+138|6739|California
It's actually nice growing your own food. My parents' garden has lettuce and tomatoes, although we did have more earlier on. Most of it are flowers now. On the other hand, we have a lot of fruit. Two orange trees, one tangarine tree, an apple tree my dad planted for me when I was about 7 years old, a Jujubes (parents and a lot of neighbors love them. I personally hate them.), a persimmons, lemons, and pomegranates. Used to have apricot and plum trees but we had to cut them to make room for a renovation my dad was doing.

Unfortunately, some people lack the space (we dont have much space, but my dad planted things everywhere he could. He keeps tons of orchids everywhere around the house.) nor the time to tend a garden. It'd be ideal for everyone to grow some food in their own gardens, but it's probably never going to happen. It's just more convienient to go to the store in a moments notice to buy produce instead of waiting a longer time for it to grow.

I do wish GM foods would no longer have that negative association of being unhealthy for you. More resistance to factors that would normally ruin crops and larger yields are definitely good things. Plus, haven't we been eating GM foods for a long time now? And haven't we in a sense genetically modified foods long before we were able to in the lab? I mean, we were artificially breeding the best crops of maize to make the corn we have today. I honestly don't see the huge fuss that people are making it out to be.
Nappy
Apprentice
+151|6652|NSW, Australia

i grow watermelons and lemons and limes

i want to grow these little tiny orange like fruits but theyre sour. i forget what theyre called comquats. or something

any other fruits i need, i just run up to the orchard and steal what i want

Last edited by Nappy (2008-04-26 21:44:30)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
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Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6965|Texas - Bigger than France

Kmarion wrote:

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
Yeah me too.  I was at Sam's this weekend, and saw a sign above the rice: limit four per customer over 40 lbs. bags.  Screw Sam's if I can only buy 160 lbs of rice. 

Shocking part: I saw two people limit out.  2nd Shocking part: If I go to Sam's I go at lunch, so I can eat all the free samples on the end of every aisle.  They had a spring roll with rice on the side.  Hmmm....

My honest opinion this is a media hype story.
Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6994|USA

Pug wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
Yeah me too.  I was at Sam's this weekend, and saw a sign above the rice: limit four per customer over 40 lbs. bags.  Screw Sam's if I can only buy 160 lbs of rice. 

Shocking part: I saw two people limit out.  2nd Shocking part: If I go to Sam's I go at lunch, so I can eat all the free samples on the end of every aisle.  They had a spring roll with rice on the side.  Hmmm....

My honest opinion this is a media hype story.
...sort of. for those of us in the developed world there's virtually no rice shortage, at least not yet. for those in underdeveloped nations, there's a severe crisis right now.
Captain_Iron_shooter
Member
+2|7112|Montreal, QC. Canada

Ender2309 wrote:

Pug wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
Yeah me too.  I was at Sam's this weekend, and saw a sign above the rice: limit four per customer over 40 lbs. bags.  Screw Sam's if I can only buy 160 lbs of rice. 

Shocking part: I saw two people limit out.  2nd Shocking part: If I go to Sam's I go at lunch, so I can eat all the free samples on the end of every aisle.  They had a spring roll with rice on the side.  Hmmm....

My honest opinion this is a media hype story.
...sort of. for those of us in the developed world there's virtually no rice shortage, at least not yet. for those in underdeveloped nations, there's a severe crisis right now.
no shortage, but you'll pay twice as much for the same bag in a couple weeks, and it's the same around the world. There's no shortage at the moment, just price going up real fast. but for  North Americans and Europeans, that won't be that much of a problem. third world country will suffer a lot more

A Senegalese spend 80 % of his earning for food, a Canadian 17% (around the same in all G8 country i guess).

OP: Good for you, I stopped growing veggies when our first Daughter was born, didn't had time and all.... but now don't have much space to do it, and living in Canada you can't grow veggies all year long.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

Ender2309 wrote:

Pug wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
Yeah me too.  I was at Sam's this weekend, and saw a sign above the rice: limit four per customer over 40 lbs. bags.  Screw Sam's if I can only buy 160 lbs of rice. 

Shocking part: I saw two people limit out.  2nd Shocking part: If I go to Sam's I go at lunch, so I can eat all the free samples on the end of every aisle.  They had a spring roll with rice on the side.  Hmmm....

My honest opinion this is a media hype story.
...sort of. for those of us in the developed world there's virtually no rice shortage, at least not yet. for those in underdeveloped nations, there's a severe crisis right now.
It's been like that for years and years. I remember thinking we needed to stop sending rice to Ethiopians and send them some uhauls... like in the early 80's. People are only buying rice in bulk because they think it is going to go up 10 cents a lb .


Hurricane prone areas see this kind of ignorant crap every time we hear a storm might be coming. Assholes who hardly ever drink bottled water pillaging the local supermarkets for no reason but panic.
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jsnipy
...
+3,277|6945|...

Kmarion wrote:

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
Yeah I saw that on the news also, silly rice mongering
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

jsnipy wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I was horrified to find out this weekend Costco had limited the amount of rice I could buy at one time to four twenty pound bags. I had to do a second round of free in store samples to supplement my 80 lb of rice a day habit.
Yeah I saw that on the news also, silly rice mongering
These are the same people who collected Beanie babies and Tickle me Elmo's a few years ago.
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Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7063|Your moms bedroom
good luck,

when i do buy veggies they sit in the fridge till they go bad, then i toss them and go buy more

i guess you could say im a carnivore with good intentions
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7024|132 and Bush

Locoloki wrote:

good luck,

when i do buy veggies they sit in the fridge till they go bad, then i toss them and go buy more

i guess you could say im a carnivore with good intentions
Freezer might help you out.
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