CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6940|USA
i live in MN and in my lease it says i can't have guns in my townhouse. 

is it legal for a landlord to say such a thing, or should i show him a copy of the constitution?



https://www.lib.csusb.edu/gov/Constitution1.jpg

Last edited by CoronadoSEAL (2008-06-26 21:16:35)

Commie Killer
Member
+192|6808
You agreed to a contract, now, if I am not mistaken, and if I payed attention in law class, you can forfeit your rights in a contract, so you cant have em.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7128|67.222.138.85
lol

You are legally allowed to own guns, but they don't have to let you use the townhouse if you do. It's very, very legal for them to do.
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6961|byah
Bend the rules. Have a paintball gun with the ammo in the freezer.
Volatile
Member
+252|7126|Sextupling in Empire

Just don't tell them, and if you have long guns that you need to take out, do it at night so it's inconspicuous.

That is, unless there are legal ramifications for having guns on the property when you have willingly signed a contract that explicitly says no guns allowed.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6745|New Haven, CT
Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-06-26 21:59:39)

Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6421|The Mitten

nukchebi0 wrote:

Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.
That would work, if he owned the property. Usually, people don't lease their own property to themselves.
EE (hats
paul386
Member
+22|6667
You make a agreement with him out of your own free will... right?

Then there is nothing you can do. It is his property and he agreed to rent it to you under specific guidelines, you must abide.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7128

Commie Killer wrote:

You agreed to a contract, now, if I am not mistaken, and if I payed attention in law class, you can forfeit your rights in a contract, so you cant have em.
What he said.

Morpheus wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.
That would work, if he owned the property. Usually, people don't lease their own property to themselves.
I think he's referring to the owner of the townhouse.
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6421|The Mitten

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.
That would work, if he owned the property. Usually, people don't lease their own property to themselves.
I think he's referring to the owner of the townhouse.
Ah. I get it.
EE (hats
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7022|132 and Bush

No, private property. Your legally allowed to own a dog unless the owner tells you that you cant also.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6912|Menlo Park, CA
Its your gun, you dont have to tell anybody you have the gun, so I wouldnt worry about it.  He/She (owners) cant enter your townhome without your permission.  Therefore I would conceal the gun in a safe place and not worry about it. . . . .

I would go about your business without mentioning a thing, its none of their buisness.

p.s. I have guns in my apt (Glock 30 and Glock 19) and my landlord dont know a damn thing!

Last edited by fadedsteve (2008-06-26 22:31:57)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7022|132 and Bush

fadedsteve wrote:

He/She (owners) cant enter your townhome without your permission.
I think it has to be an emergency for them to enter without permission. I could have told you for sure the week before I took my Real Estate exam .
Xbone Stormsurgezz
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6912|Menlo Park, CA

Kmarion wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

He/She (owners) cant enter your townhome without your permission.
I think it has to be an emergency for them to enter without permission. I could have told you for sure the week before I took my Real Estate exam .
Well senior I have my real estate license too, and any landlord has to give you at least 24hrs notice before entering a property you are currently inhabiting.  Renters have rights too ya know!

It is ILLEGAL for them to enter unannounced unless the building is on fire/emergency situation etc.  It is within your rights to be notified before anyone not on the lease enters your domain.

OR unless you give them permission to enter at anytime!

Last edited by fadedsteve (2008-06-26 22:48:19)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7022|132 and Bush

fadedsteve wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

He/She (owners) cant enter your townhome without your permission.
I think it has to be an emergency for them to enter without permission. I could have told you for sure the week before I took my Real Estate exam .
Well senior I have my real estate license too, and any landlord has to give you at least 24hrs notice before entering a property you are currently inhabiting.  Renters have rights too ya know!

It is ILLEGAL for them to enter unannounced unless the building is on fire/emergency situation etc.  It is within your rights to be notified before anyone not on the lease enters your domain.

OR unless you give them permission to enter at anytime!
You just repeated what I said..lol


Do you practice?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7096|Canberra, AUS

fadedsteve wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

He/She (owners) cant enter your townhome without your permission.
I think it has to be an emergency for them to enter without permission. I could have told you for sure the week before I took my Real Estate exam .
Well senior I have my real estate license too, and any landlord has to give you at least 24hrs notice before entering a property you are currently inhabiting.  Renters have rights too ya know!

It is ILLEGAL for them to enter unannounced unless the building is on fire/emergency situation etc.  It is within your rights to be notified before anyone not on the lease enters your domain.

OR unless you give them permission to enter at anytime!
Isn't that what he just said...?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7071
You're bound by a perfectly legal contract....so no guns for you!!!
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6832|'Murka

You can LEGALLY have them (it's not against the LAW).

But he can LEGALLY evict you if he finds out about it (it does violate the terms of your lease).
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san4
The Mas
+311|7110|NYC, a place to live
Get a sword.
13rin
Member
+977|6901

nukchebi0 wrote:

Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.
Actually, In Florida you can keep your gun in your car at work even if your employer doesn't allow it guns on the premesis.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7049|IRELAND

Take one of your guns and shot a hole in the window and tell him someone tried to take you out and you need it for protection. Otherwise its his property he can set the rules. It looks like an old deed check if there are any amendments.

Also, if he does agree to allowing you to keep a gun, get it in writing.
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6249

DBBrinson1 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.
Actually, In Florida you can keep your gun in your car at work even if your employer doesn't allow it guns on the premesis.
Florida law is the constitution now?
13rin
Member
+977|6901

ZombieVampire! wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Its entirely legal because it is his private property. There is no constitutional protection for having guns on someone else's property.
Actually, In Florida you can keep your gun in your car at work even if your employer doesn't allow it guns on the premesis.
Florida law is the constitution now?
Never said it was Bubba.  Just showing how different states can interpret the 2nd amendment.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6940|USA
i swore there was a clause restricting such a thing even in a signed lease...but i couldn't find anything hence the thread

thanks for the input!

and off the record: i will still have mah gunz in the house.  they all have trigger locks, so i don't see what the big deal is.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6383|Washington DC
"It's only illegal if you get caught"

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