Kmarion wrote:
Clearly you haven't spoken to the Junta.FEOS wrote:
Volunteering help to assist in a humanitarian crisis is now provocative and leading to WWIII.
/facepalm
Speaking in Washington, he expressed concern about reports of continuing Russian action in Georgia, and urged Russia to respect a ceasefire accord.
Mr Bush hinted that Russia could be jeopardising its international ties.
The Kremlin said the US must choose between partnership with Moscow, or with the Georgian leadership.
The difference is that it was Myanmar saying stay out (the actual (sovereign) country that needed humanitarian aid). Not a third party. Why shouldn't we help with humanitarian aid. The world has done it in plenty of other war zones. It's not an invasions if invited.sergeriver wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Clearly you haven't spoken to the Junta.FEOS wrote:
Volunteering help to assist in a humanitarian crisis is now provocative and leading to WWIII.
/facepalmSpeaking in Washington, he expressed concern about reports of continuing Russian action in Georgia, and urged Russia to respect a ceasefire accord.
Mr Bush hinted that Russia could be jeopardising its international ties.
The Kremlin said the US must choose between partnership with Moscow, or with the Georgian leadership.
Agreed... Compared to the invasion of Iraq, this is a legitimate case for intervention. Besides, fighting Russia would be more like us picking on someone our own size. I'm not eager to enter WW3, but we need to take an aggressive stance towards Russia because we don't want to set the precedent that this shit is ok for them to pull.DBBrinson1 wrote:
What do ya'll propose we do? The US and Georgia are allies. It's kinda what allies do.
@chef:
How about some "Putin need to be tried for war crimes and this is illegal and illegitimate war! It's about the Oil!" statements.
Fuck off.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
I think you're quite possibly the lamest guy on DAST. Even Rammunation has better shit than you.
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Lol. The coup de grace!Commie Killer wrote:
Fuck off.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Commie Killer wrote:
*Insert Ireland ginger comment here*.Commie Killer wrote:
Your to simple and dense for it, I already gave up trying to debate topics with you.I think you're quite possibly the lamest guy on DAST. Even Rammunation has better shit than you.Commie Killer wrote:
I spent about a few hours debating this topic with your drunk Irish ass in the past, I aint about to waste my time talking to a wall again.
Love you too.Braddock wrote:
Lol. The coup de grace!Commie Killer wrote:
Fuck off.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Commie Killer wrote:
*Insert Ireland ginger comment here*.I think you're quite possibly the lamest guy on DAST. Even Rammunation has better shit than you.Commie Killer wrote:
Your to simple and dense for it, I already gave up trying to debate topics with you.
I can understand the idea of not wanting Russia to think they can act the goat on the world stage from now on but seriously Turquoise Georgia are not blame free in this whole debacle. If they had not attempted a re-invasion of South Ossetia they would most likely not have had their asses handed to them by Russia.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... Compared to the invasion of Iraq, this is a legitimate case for intervention. Besides, fighting Russia would be more like us picking on someone our own size. I'm not eager to enter WW3, but we need to take an aggressive stance towards Russia because we don't want to set the precedent that this shit is ok for them to pull.DBBrinson1 wrote:
What do ya'll propose we do? The US and Georgia are allies. It's kinda what allies do.
@chef:
How about some "Putin need to be tried for war crimes and this is illegal and illegitimate war! It's about the Oil!" statements.
Clearly you've learned nothing from Secretary Pelt after the rogue Captain Ramius fled mother Russia with the Red October:FEOS wrote:
Volunteering help to assist in a humanitarian crisis is now provocative and leading to WWIII.
/facepalm
True... Inevitablly, I think Ossetia will become the next Kosovo.Braddock wrote:
I can understand the idea of not wanting Russia to think they can act the goat on the world stage from now on but seriously Turquoise Georgia are not blame free in this whole debacle. If they had not attempted a re-invasion of South Ossetia they would most likely not have had their asses handed to them by Russia.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... Compared to the invasion of Iraq, this is a legitimate case for intervention. Besides, fighting Russia would be more like us picking on someone our own size. I'm not eager to enter WW3, but we need to take an aggressive stance towards Russia because we don't want to set the precedent that this shit is ok for them to pull.DBBrinson1 wrote:
What do ya'll propose we do? The US and Georgia are allies. It's kinda what allies do.
@chef:
How about some "Putin need to be tried for war crimes and this is illegal and illegitimate war! It's about the Oil!" statements.
It's a little different to Kosovo though I can see where you're coming from. I presume you are talking about the way in which the Russians are giving out passports like sweeties in the region? However, Kosovo occurred when an ethnic group from a distinct and separate country moved en masse to another region in another country, Northern Ossetia on the other hand is actually in Russia and so a desire to rejoin the nation that contains half of your de facto country is somewhat more understandable.Turquoise wrote:
True... Inevitablly, I think Ossetia will become the next Kosovo.Braddock wrote:
I can understand the idea of not wanting Russia to think they can act the goat on the world stage from now on but seriously Turquoise Georgia are not blame free in this whole debacle. If they had not attempted a re-invasion of South Ossetia they would most likely not have had their asses handed to them by Russia.Turquoise wrote:
Agreed... Compared to the invasion of Iraq, this is a legitimate case for intervention. Besides, fighting Russia would be more like us picking on someone our own size. I'm not eager to enter WW3, but we need to take an aggressive stance towards Russia because we don't want to set the precedent that this shit is ok for them to pull.
You do have a brain don't you? Just had to check...Commie Killer wrote:
Your to simple and dense for it, I already gave up trying to debate topics with you.Braddock wrote:
Great comeback Commie Killer. I suppose I was a bit foolish expecting a balanced attitude regarding anything involving Russia from a guy called "Commie Killer", would you care to refute the claim made in my post?Commie Killer wrote:
*Insert Ireland ginger comment here*.
one of the most ironic sentences in DST i've seen for a couple weeks nowCommie Killer wrote:
Your to simple and dense for it, I already gave up trying to debate topics with you.
Who drew up the border?Braddock wrote:
It's a little different to Kosovo though I can see where you're coming from. I presume you are talking about the way in which the Russians are giving out passports like sweeties in the region? However, Kosovo occurred when an ethnic group from a distinct and separate country moved en masse to another region in another country, Northern Ossetia on the other hand is actually in Russia and so a desire to rejoin the nation that contains half of your de facto country is somewhat more understandable.Turquoise wrote:
True... Inevitablly, I think Ossetia will become the next Kosovo.Braddock wrote:
I can understand the idea of not wanting Russia to think they can act the goat on the world stage from now on but seriously Turquoise Georgia are not blame free in this whole debacle. If they had not attempted a re-invasion of South Ossetia they would most likely not have had their asses handed to them by Russia.
no need to worry, just some power talk/muscle-flexing from one superpower to another. Just rethoric. Bush is concerned, thats all.
This is the most sensible post in this thread and in my opinion the closest to reality.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
The US won't go to war with Russia. Russia won't go to war with the US. It benefits no one. Vladimir Putin is not that stupid (to create international conflict and probably isolate many of his political allies outside of his country) and there is nothing to be gained by the US in going to war with Russia - we already are the sole superpower.
Georgia claimed the region when it broke from Russia but South Ossetia declared independence as the 'Republic of South Ossetia' in the early 1990s during the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. The region is linguistically and ethnically distinct from Georgia. The region had de facto independence from Georgia right up until those troops rolled in attempting to seize control of the region again last week.Turquoise wrote:
Who drew up the border?Braddock wrote:
It's a little different to Kosovo though I can see where you're coming from. I presume you are talking about the way in which the Russians are giving out passports like sweeties in the region? However, Kosovo occurred when an ethnic group from a distinct and separate country moved en masse to another region in another country, Northern Ossetia on the other hand is actually in Russia and so a desire to rejoin the nation that contains half of your de facto country is somewhat more understandable.Turquoise wrote:
True... Inevitablly, I think Ossetia will become the next Kosovo.
Poseidon wrote:
one of the most ironic sentences in DST i've seen for a couple weeks nowCommie Killer wrote:
Your to simple and dense for it, I already gave up trying to debate topics with you.
Yeah yeah. I already appologized for it. Got mad for stupid reasons and said stupid things on a forum where it doesnt even matter lol.oChaos.Haze wrote:
You do have a brain don't you? Just had to check...Commie Killer wrote:
Your to simple and dense for it, I already gave up trying to debate topics with you.Braddock wrote:
Great comeback Commie Killer. I suppose I was a bit foolish expecting a balanced attitude regarding anything involving Russia from a guy called "Commie Killer", would you care to refute the claim made in my post?
This is ST & (D), not everything else.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
Russia should conquer Georgia. The world in its current state is boring, we need some action. The Iraq war is boring (same news every day, 20 soldiers killed, boo fucking hoo).
We need a new war, one with nukes.
I don't see you adding anything to the discussion either, so shut up and listen to your own advise.dayarath wrote:
This is ST & (D), not everything else.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
Russia should conquer Georgia. The world in its current state is boring, we need some action. The Iraq war is boring (same news every day, 20 soldiers killed, boo fucking hoo).
We need a new war, one with nukes.
go back.
Hes Rammunitions sister. Ignore him.dayarath wrote:
This is ST & (D), not everything else.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
Russia should conquer Georgia. The world in its current state is boring, we need some action. The Iraq war is boring (same news every day, 20 soldiers killed, boo fucking hoo).
We need a new war, one with nukes.
go back.
Who the fuck is Rammunitions?Commie Killer wrote:
Hes Rammunitions sister. Ignore him.dayarath wrote:
This is ST & (D), not everything else.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
Russia should conquer Georgia. The world in its current state is boring, we need some action. The Iraq war is boring (same news every day, 20 soldiers killed, boo fucking hoo).
We need a new war, one with nukes.
go back.
I wonder what the goal of the Ossetian breakaway was when they seceded or whatever the proper team is. Were they trying to join their northern brethren or just trying to get away from Georgia?Braddock wrote:
It's a little different to Kosovo though I can see where you're coming from. I presume you are talking about the way in which the Russians are giving out passports like sweeties in the region? However, Kosovo occurred when an ethnic group from a distinct and separate country moved en masse to another region in another country, Northern Ossetia on the other hand is actually in Russia and so a desire to rejoin the nation that contains half of your de facto country is somewhat more understandable.Turquoise wrote:
True... Inevitablly, I think Ossetia will become the next Kosovo.Braddock wrote:
I can understand the idea of not wanting Russia to think they can act the goat on the world stage from now on but seriously Turquoise Georgia are not blame free in this whole debacle. If they had not attempted a re-invasion of South Ossetia they would most likely not have had their asses handed to them by Russia.
hahah.. unbelievably idealistic and naive. The whitewashed notion of "friends and allies" doesnt exist. It's simply national interest.DBBrinson1 wrote:
What do ya'll propose we do? The US and Georgia are allies. It's kinda what allies do.
@chef:
How about some "Putin need to be tried for war crimes and this is illegal and illegitimate war! It's about the Oil!" statements.