djphetal
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Daily - but especially in these election years - amateur political analysts like you and I hotly debate policies, candidates, wars and economics, often with excessive vitriol and hatred toward our chosen political target. Though in our fierce discussions, we, more often than not, generalize to the point where the discussion becomes "you are right, and I like you... or you are wrong and I hate you."

I would like to make a personal statement, and I'd like people to express their views on how heavily politics weigh into personal like or dislike.

Somebody's political opinion, unless used in a manner disrespectful to other human beings, has little to know weight on how I think about someone.
For instance, if a friend of mine says "I like what Bush has done and I would love to see McCain be president. We can't leave Iraq," or my roommate says "abortion has to be illegal, or girls will think they can just fuck anyone," I don't think less of them. Politically, I disagree, but that's their opinion, and "right" and "wrong" don't apply.
However, if a woman gets on an elevator and asks the hotel maid "What's wrong with the stairs?" and the hispanic maid responds "Don't know." and the woman says "You can't even speak fuckin' english and you come to america? Fucking ridiculous..."

That's when I have a problem with politics and people.

Your thoughts?
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
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djphetal wrote:

And yeah, when I hate a cunt as much as I hate Palin, I do hope the smearjob (if it is only that) works. I've had my country run by an incompetent fuck for 8 very important years of my life, and I feel no fucking remorse trashing anyone or everyone who represents the same thing as those who have made these last 8 years so pathetic.
Speak for yourself, I bet you never even heard about Palin a week ago.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7109|Tampa Bay Florida

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

djphetal wrote:

And yeah, when I hate a cunt as much as I hate Palin, I do hope the smearjob (if it is only that) works. I've had my country run by an incompetent fuck for 8 very important years of my life, and I feel no fucking remorse trashing anyone or everyone who represents the same thing as those who have made these last 8 years so pathetic.
Speak for yourself, I bet you never even heard about Palin a week ago.
Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
AussieReaper
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Spearhead wrote:

Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
McCain met her a few days ago...
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usmarine
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
McCain met her a few days ago...
funny, thats how you were created also.
AussieReaper
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usmarine wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
McCain met her a few days ago...
funny, thats how you were created also.
that's below the belt you dickhead.

(geddit, below the belt... but the dicks on your head... geddit?!)
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Reciprocity
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He looked into her soul and saw a good person.



At a governor's conference.
ATG
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So lemme get this straight; you may know somebody who supports NAMBLA and you won't think they are scuzz?
Spark
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Reciprocity wrote:

He looked into her soul and saw a good person.



At a governor's conference.
LolIrony
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7134|US
I don't have as much respect for people who rant on about a topic, but are not informed on said topic.
...that's probably why I lose respect for lot of the gun-control crowd, after all the unsupported BS some of them have said.

If you can logically support your claim with reasonable evidence, I will accept that values and opinions may differ.  However, if you spew nonsensical "facts," don't support your argument, or don't follow the logic of your own political argument...I'll probably think your are brainwashed or an idiot.

Last edited by RAIMIUS (2008-09-01 01:35:09)

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Personally, political opinions and beliefs don't really interfere with my relationships. Although I do admit that I have a much harder time taking some people seriously when it comes to certain topics because of their stance on other issues. For instance, it's hard to take any of my friends who think Bush was a good president seriously in any argument or debate. Or any of the little democrat whores who criticize the GOP constantly but are not physically capable of saying a bad thing about the democrats.
FEOS
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RAIMIUS wrote:

If you can logically support your claim with reasonable evidence, I will accept that values and opinions may differ.  However, if you spew nonsensical "facts," don't support your argument, or don't follow the logic of your own political argument...I'll probably think your are brainwashed or an idiot.
^What he said.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

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I'm curious to know what you've got on Palin to make you hate her. I know a few very basic things about her, but nothing that makes me like or dislike her.

EDIT: So actually, I just read her Wiki page () and I've found out what I don't like about her.

In 2002, while running for lieutenant governor, Palin called herself as "pro-life as any candidate can be."[26] She opposes abortion for rape and incest victims, supporting it only in cases where the mother's life is in danger.[83] Palin does support contraception,[84] and is a prominent member of Feminists for Life (which takes no position on that issue[85] but a more restrictive one on exceptions).

Palin opposes same-sex marriage[26] and supported a non-binding referendum for a constitutional amendment to deny state health benefits to same-sex couples.[86] Palin has stated that she supported the 1998 constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.[26]

In a televised debate, Palin said she supported teaching both creationism and evolution in public schools. She clarified her position the next day, saying that if a debate of alternative views arose in class she would not prohibit its discussion. She added that she would not push the state Board of Education to add creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.[87]

Palin is in favor of capital punishment. She has stated that: "If the legislature passed a death penalty law, I would sign it. We have a right to know that someone who rapes and murders a child or kills an innocent person in a drive by shooting will never be able to do that again."[88]

Palin does not support re-legalizing marijuana in Alaska, stating concerns about the message re-legalization would send to her children. She has said that she has smoked marijuana in the past, when possession was legal under Alaska state law; but did not like it. “I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say I never inhaled”, she said.[26]

Palin has strongly promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska, including opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to drilling.[33] She does not believe that global warming is human-made.[36] She opposed listing of the polar bear as an endangered species on the grounds that it would interfere with oil and gas extraction,[89] and supported a controversial predator-control program involving aerial hunting of wolves to manage moose populations for hunters.[90]

Palin is a member of the National Rifle Association, and is popular among gun rights activists. She supports gun safety education for youth.[91]

According to Time, Palin's foreign policy positions were "not clear" at the time she was picked as McCain's running mate.[92] Although she has supported President Bush's efforts to stop terrorism "by taking the fight to the terrorists",[54] she has also critized the lack of an exit strategy in Iraq.[92]

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lowing
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Spearhead wrote:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

djphetal wrote:

And yeah, when I hate a cunt as much as I hate Palin, I do hope the smearjob (if it is only that) works. I've had my country run by an incompetent fuck for 8 very important years of my life, and I feel no fucking remorse trashing anyone or everyone who represents the same thing as those who have made these last 8 years so pathetic.
Speak for yourself, I bet you never even heard about Palin a week ago.
Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
Do we really really wanna go over again as to WHEN and HOW and WHO discovered Obama.

Screw it, lets do it anyway.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02188.html
Mekstizzle
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Not really. You can find out easily how much of an idiot someone is by listening to their political views. Especially if they don't even have any, because they're that fuckin ignorant and stupid
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Not really. You can find out easily how much of an idiot someone is by listening to their political views. Especially if they don't even have any, because they're that fuckin ignorant and stupid
The views themselves don't make the person an idiot...it's the rationale or lack thereof that does.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
lowing
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Oh gee, I thought Palin and her exposure and experience previously was in question. But since it is proven that Obama is nothing more than Oprahs bitch, and would still be nothing compared to what Oprah has made him into, Spearhead does not want to compare anymore. Oh well.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
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lowing wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:


Speak for yourself, I bet you never even heard about Palin a week ago.
Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
Do we really really wanna go over again as to WHEN and HOW and WHO discovered Obama.

Screw it, lets do it anyway.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02188.html
LMFAO

You have to be a total twat to think that Democrats didnt know about Obama until Oprah started supporting him.  Are you kidding me lowing?  Thats almost so dumb its insulting.  But you wouldnt do that would you? 
lowing
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Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spearhead wrote:


Tons of people havent heard about Palin.
Do we really really wanna go over again as to WHEN and HOW and WHO discovered Obama.

Screw it, lets do it anyway.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02188.html
LMFAO

You have to be a total twat to think that Democrats didnt know about Obama until Oprah started supporting him.  Are you kidding me lowing?  Thats almost so dumb its insulting.  But you wouldnt do that would you? 
Bullshit. Oprah fueled Obama, and no one ever heard of him before hand. Sorry Spearhead, like it or not it is well documented that Oprah pretty much discovered Obama and fueled the drive to make him a contender. On a side note it is also well documented that by doing so Oprah has dropped in the her ratings.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
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lowing wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:


Do we really really wanna go over again as to WHEN and HOW and WHO discovered Obama.

Screw it, lets do it anyway.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02188.html
LMFAO

You have to be a total twat to think that Democrats didnt know about Obama until Oprah started supporting him.  Are you kidding me lowing?  Thats almost so dumb its insulting.  But you wouldnt do that would you? 
Bullshit. Oprah fueled Obama, and no one ever heard of him before hand. Sorry Spearhead, like it or not it is well documented that Oprah pretty much discovered Obama and fueled the drive to make him a contender. On a side note it is also well documented that by doing so Oprah has dropped in the her ratings.
Like it or not, lowing, you do not know jack shit about me or any other liberal.  If you actually read stuff like newspapers rather than your fucked up right wing blogs maybe you'd have realized Obama existed long before Oprah even came around. 

Dude, Democrats have known about him on a national scale since 2004.  Now the entire country is getting exposed to him.  You only know half of the population votes, right?  Maybe that explains your delusion. 

P.S. I do not give a fuck about Oprah and her ratings.  Why do black celebrities matter to you?  If they are so disconnected from real people than why do you pay attention to them?
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Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spearhead wrote:


LMFAO

You have to be a total twat to think that Democrats didnt know about Obama until Oprah started supporting him.  Are you kidding me lowing?  Thats almost so dumb its insulting.  But you wouldnt do that would you? 
Bullshit. Oprah fueled Obama, and no one ever heard of him before hand. Sorry Spearhead, like it or not it is well documented that Oprah pretty much discovered Obama and fueled the drive to make him a contender. On a side note it is also well documented that by doing so Oprah has dropped in the her ratings.
Like it or not, lowing, you do not know jack shit about me or any other liberal.  If you actually read stuff like newspapers rather than your fucked up right wing blogs maybe you'd have realized Obama existed long before Oprah even came around. 

Dude, Democrats have known about him on a national scale since 2004.  Now the entire country is getting exposed to him.  You only know half of the population votes, right?  Maybe that explains your delusion. 

P.S. I do not give a fuck about Oprah and her ratings.  Why do black celebrities matter to you?  If they are so disconnected from real people than why do you pay attention to them?
Yeah, I remember seeing Obama commentate in the 2004 election coverage on CNN or NBC or something. Oprah didn't "discover" him.
lowing
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Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spearhead wrote:


LMFAO

You have to be a total twat to think that Democrats didnt know about Obama until Oprah started supporting him.  Are you kidding me lowing?  Thats almost so dumb its insulting.  But you wouldnt do that would you? 
Bullshit. Oprah fueled Obama, and no one ever heard of him before hand. Sorry Spearhead, like it or not it is well documented that Oprah pretty much discovered Obama and fueled the drive to make him a contender. On a side note it is also well documented that by doing so Oprah has dropped in the her ratings.
Like it or not, lowing, you do not know jack shit about me or any other liberal.  If you actually read stuff like newspapers rather than your fucked up right wing blogs maybe you'd have realized Obama existed long before Oprah even came around. 

Dude, Democrats have known about him on a national scale since 2004.  Now the entire country is getting exposed to him.  You only know half of the population votes, right?  Maybe that explains your delusion. 

P.S. I do not give a fuck about Oprah and her ratings.  Why do black celebrities matter to you?  If they are so disconnected from real people than why do you pay attention to them?
I didn't say he didn't exist. I said Oprah discovered him. Since when is the Washington Post a right wing blog. Spearhead, Oprahs influence is all over this guys career. get over it.

What is your obseession by bring race into every topic. I have not once said anything about being a race issue. You must be desporate for a defense.
Spearhead
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lowing wrote:

I didn't say he didn't exist. I said Oprah discovered him. Since when is the Washington Post a right wing blog. Spearhead, Oprahs influence is all over this guys career. get over it.

What is your obseession by bring race into every topic. I have not once said anything about being a race issue. You must be desporate for a defense.
Of course I didnt mean, LITERALLY EXIST.  /facepalm

Oprah did NOT discover him you twat.  You simply arent informed.

I pointed out black celebrities because of Oprah and P Diddy.  I've never seen you bashing a white celebrity who's out of touch with normal people.
lowing
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Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

I didn't say he didn't exist. I said Oprah discovered him. Since when is the Washington Post a right wing blog. Spearhead, Oprahs influence is all over this guys career. get over it.

What is your obseession by bring race into every topic. I have not once said anything about being a race issue. You must be desporate for a defense.
Of course I didnt mean, LITERALLY EXIST.  /facepalm

Oprah did NOT discover him you twat.  You simply arent informed.

I pointed out black celebrities because of Oprah and P Diddy.  I've never seen you bashing a white celebrity who's out of touch with normal people.
better check the net, I doubt you can show anything that Oprah had nothing to do with Obams success.

I promise you the second I come accross any celebrity that does something like this I will say something

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