Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6899

White-Fusion wrote:

I'm overclocking my CPU just now in little parts. At 3.25 ish now. And getting 59 degrees when using Orthos.

Wonder if i'll get to 3.5
Do it! I have my Q9450 at 3.5, and my system produces 18600 3Dmarks
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6805|Long Island, New York
I'll probably end up going ATi when I upgrade next year.

...However, I'll go for whatever card is BETTER at the time. Whether it's an nVidia or an ATi.
Defiance
Member
+438|6938

Poseidon wrote:

I'll probably end up going ATi when I upgrade next year.

...However, I'll go for whatever card is BETTER at the time. Whether it's an nVidia or an ATi.
Good man. I always liked nVidia, had good experiences at least, but I heard so much good about the 4850 (for my budget) it would be stupid to ignore it out of fanboyism. Only disappointment is the cooler, getting a S1r2 eventually.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6805|Long Island, New York

Defiance wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I'll probably end up going ATi when I upgrade next year.

...However, I'll go for whatever card is BETTER at the time. Whether it's an nVidia or an ATi.
Good man. I always liked nVidia, had good experiences at least, but I heard so much good about the 4850 (for my budget) it would be stupid to ignore it out of fanboyism. Only disappointment is the cooler, getting a S1r2 eventually.
I simply go for what's better.

It's why fanboyism (especially in tech) always makes me laugh. I'm a gamer and a tech enthusiast. I don't buy things by brand name (well, in terms of EVGA/BFG/etc I do since I prefer EVGA, but there's no difference...I'm talking in terms of ATi and nVidia), I buy them by which is BETTER. Just like I do for games. If there's a game on PC/PS3/360, I'll get it on whichever platform I think I'll enjoy it most on.

So yeah. I just get whichever is the best at the time, no matter who the brand is.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6659|Southern California

Uzique wrote:

So you replace a 8800GTS with a new ATI and then proclaim ATI as kings of the graphics world?

... Buy a 280 GTX?
He never said it was better then anything, He said he has always had Nvidia, and now bought ATI... and that he like his ATI.

I really like ATI's "use native aspect ratio" on my laptop, wish my 8800GTS could do that....
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6832|Area 51

DeathUnlimited wrote:

11600 is pretty low. What CPU do you have?

That card should score over 13k


/agrees. I got 14250 out of that thing with an E8400.

Btw, how on earth did you manage to set the fan speed higher? Because I couldn't find such an option in the ATI Overdrive menu


White-Fusion wrote:

Nope not saying that, just they are really impressing me. A 280 would probs beat this card. But I have zero issues with anything on the card.
btw..yes it probably would beat the HD4870 but not by much

ATI FTW at the moment

Last edited by RDMC (2008-09-08 00:06:55)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6940|Maine

RDMC wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

11600 is pretty low. What CPU do you have?

That card should score over 13k


/agrees. I got 14250 out of that thing with an E8400.

Btw, how on earth did you manage to set the fan speed higher? Because I couldn't find such an option in the ATI Overdrive menu


White-Fusion wrote:

Nope not saying that, just they are really impressing me. A 280 would probs beat this card. But I have zero issues with anything on the card.
btw..yes it probably would beat the HD4870 but not by much

ATI FTW at the moment
To make the fan speed higher, you have to make a new profile in CCC. Then go to C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\AppData\local\ATI\ACE\Profiles, then open the file called <whateveryounamedtheprofile>.xml in notepad or whatever. Go to the bottom, and find:

Code:

<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Automatic" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="27" />
Change to:

Code:

<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="100" />
The value on:
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="100" />

Is the fan speed %.

Then just save this and reload it in CCC.


OR:

The much better alternative is to uninstall CCC, because it is pathetically shitty, and download Rivatuner.

EDIT: By the way, the above path to the profiles may not be correct, I can't remember. It's close though.

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-09-08 01:16:18)

White-Fusion
Fuck
+616|6819|Scotland
Yeah CrazeD is right, do that to change it. I find out of game, a profile with speed of 35 works best. In game 38 to 42 depending on if the sound annoys you. And 50 for benchmarks etc (I like to have this)

I get 12600 or 12800 now cant remember. After overclocking to 3.45.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6940|Maine
I keep mine on 100%. You'd think 9000RPM would be ridiculously loud, but my old x1950xt was way louder...so this doesn't bother me.

Though if you want good fan control, like temperature-based control, get Rivatuner. I used CCC until Rivatuner supported the 4000 series, then I uninstalled it...I fucking hate CCC.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6681|Finland

CPU OC means A LOT in 3Dmark. I went from 13K to 20K by overclocking my Q6600. 11600 is right score for STOCK E6850. Although the 3dmark score isn't much better than with the old GTS, gaming performance gets much bigger boost.

The fact is that ATi does have the fastest gfx card atm (HD 4870 X2). That doesn't make a GTX 280 bad card if you get it at low price. if you want really fast card but can't afford the X2, 280 is your choise. But if you can afford the X2, you kick the GTX's butt...
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White-Fusion
Fuck
+616|6819|Scotland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CPU OC means A LOT in 3Dmark. I went from 13K to 20K by overclocking my Q6600. 11600 is right score for STOCK E6850. Although the 3dmark score isn't much better than with the old GTS, gaming performance gets much bigger boost.

The fact is that ATi does have the fastest gfx card atm (HD 4870 X2). That doesn't make a GTX 280 bad card if you get it at low price. if you want really fast card but can't afford the X2, 280 is your choise. But if you can afford the X2, you kick the GTX's butt...
I have 12500 on 3.45 overclock.

So I don't know wtf is letting me down... my 2 gig 6400 ram?
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6681|Finland

White-Fusion wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CPU OC means A LOT in 3Dmark. I went from 13K to 20K by overclocking my Q6600. 11600 is right score for STOCK E6850. Although the 3dmark score isn't much better than with the old GTS, gaming performance gets much bigger boost.

The fact is that ATi does have the fastest gfx card atm (HD 4870 X2). That doesn't make a GTX 280 bad card if you get it at low price. if you want really fast card but can't afford the X2, 280 is your choise. But if you can afford the X2, you kick the GTX's butt...
I have 12500 on 3.45 overclock.

So I don't know wtf is letting me down... my 2 gig 6400 ram?
quite frankly I don't find that score odd at all. 3dmark loves quad core CPUs. AMD HD 2000, 3000 and 4000 seem to score very close in 3dmark with dual core CPU.
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Brasso
member
+1,549|6897

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

3dmark loves quad core CPUs.
...I still haven't run 3DMark06.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-09-08 12:24:53)

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

Q6600 @ 4GHz and 2900XT CF and boom, the cheapest possible 3d06 killer. Seriously, that would do over 25k.

And would be shit in games compared to a single 4870 for example.

Edit: meant 2900XT Crossfire

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-09-08 12:33:25)

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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6681|Finland

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Q6600 @ 4GHz and 2900XT and boom, the cheapest possible 3d06 killer. Seriously, that would do over 25k.

And would be shit in games compared to a single 4870 for example.
Yeah. the HD 4800 series is sooo much faster with AA+AF. really great that they fixed it...(AA+AF performance)

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-09-08 12:31:47)

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elite.mafia
Banned
+122|6721|USA
I get 11110 with my 8800gt in 3dmark 06 and ur card that's 2 generations ahead gets only that little more? =s
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6681|Finland

elite.mafia wrote:

I get 11110 with my 8800gt in 3dmark 06 and ur card that's 2 generations ahead gets only that little more? =s
in 3dmark... the new gen cards are not designed to be 3dmark point monsters... google some real gaming tests and be amazed...
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Brasso
member
+1,549|6897

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

elite.mafia wrote:

I get 11110 with my 8800gt in 3dmark 06 and ur card that's 2 generations ahead gets only that little more? =s
in 3dmark... the new gen cards are not designed to be 3dmark point monsters... google some real gaming tests and be amazed...
hence 3dMark OH SIX
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
CrazeD
Member
+368|6940|Maine

Uzique wrote:

So you replace a 8800GTS with a new ATI and then proclaim ATI as kings of the graphics world?

... Buy a 280 GTX?
Why buy a GTX280 when you can buy a 4870X2 and totally rape it?
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6816|UK

Gooners wrote:

White-Fusion wrote:

I'm overclocking my CPU just now in little parts. At 3.25 ish now. And getting 59 degrees when using Orthos.

Wonder if i'll get to 3.5
Do it! I have my Q9450 at 3.5, and my system produces 18600 3Dmarks

and I have no friends
Pah, 4Ghz with ma E8400 xD
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6832|Area 51

CrazeD wrote:

RDMC wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

11600 is pretty low. What CPU do you have?

That card should score over 13k


/agrees. I got 14250 out of that thing with an E8400.

Btw, how on earth did you manage to set the fan speed higher? Because I couldn't find such an option in the ATI Overdrive menu


White-Fusion wrote:

Nope not saying that, just they are really impressing me. A 280 would probs beat this card. But I have zero issues with anything on the card.
btw..yes it probably would beat the HD4870 but not by much

ATI FTW at the moment
To make the fan speed higher, you have to make a new profile in CCC. Then go to C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\AppData\local\ATI\ACE\Profiles, then open the file called <whateveryounamedtheprofile>.xml in notepad or whatever. Go to the bottom, and find:

Code:

<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Automatic" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="27" />
Change to:

Code:

<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="100" />
The value on:
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="100" />

Is the fan speed %.

Then just save this and reload it in CCC.


OR:

The much better alternative is to uninstall CCC, because it is pathetically shitty, and download Rivatuner.

EDIT: By the way, the above path to the profiles may not be correct, I can't remember. It's close though.
Ooooh I got it I did know about rivatuner being able to change fan speeds, since I used it for my 7600GT but when I  installed it again it didnt show those options for my HD4870 but I never thought about updating it ...doh...

Just btw, I read somewhere that someone had that fun running at 100% and he wasnt bothered by it that much? Like WTF it sounds as if Hurricane Ike/Hannah/<Insert hurricane name here> is raging through my PC when I turn that fan up to 100%

Last edited by RDMC (2008-09-09 01:20:47)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6940|Maine
Maybe the HD4850 is a little different then.

My old x1950xt literally sounded like a leaf blower when I turned it to 100%, so this is nothing comparable. It's a whoosh of air but it's not really that annoying. I have a lot of fans and I wear noise canceling surround sound headphones, so I can't even hear it.

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