Kmar
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Feds warn of terror plotting against NYC subways
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Federal authorities are warning law enforcement personnel of a possible terror plot against the New York City subway system during the holiday season.

    An internal memo obtained by The Associated Press says the FBI has received a “plausible but unsubstantiated” report that al-Qaida terrorists in late September may have discussed attacking the subway system.

    FBI spokesman Richard Kolko confirmed only that his agency and the Department of Homeland Security issued a bulletin last night to state and local authorities, and the information is being reviewed.

    Department of Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said the warning was issued as a routine matter, but added that there may be an increased police presence in New York and other large metropolitan areas.
Be careful out there.
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Superior Mind
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Kmarion wrote:

Be careful out there.
I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2008-11-26 11:00:08)

13/f/taiwan
Member
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Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Be careful out there.
I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.
Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.

Last edited by 12/f/taiwan (2008-11-26 11:10:52)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7110

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Be careful out there.
I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.
Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.
@.@ WHAT?! Who was it? Is he a familiar face around the hood?
13/f/taiwan
Member
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Superior Mind wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.
Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.
@.@ WHAT?! Who was it? Is he a familiar face around the hood?
He owned a Arabic book, clothing, etc. store next the Mosque/Vet. on 5th. Son was caught and arrested; the father just went on with his life running the store(he had no involvement).

Not really a "familiar" face.

Last edited by 12/f/taiwan (2008-11-26 11:22:01)

Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
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Be safe New Yorkers.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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12/f/taiwan wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Be careful out there.
I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.
Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.
It sounds like you take it like we take our hurricane warnings. With the Neo's securely on the way out it's hard to simply say "fear mongers". That is until the masses turn on the anointed one.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7110

Kmarion wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.
Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.
It sounds like you take it like we take our hurricane warnings. With the Neo's securely on the way out it's hard to simply say "fear mongers". That is until the masses turn on the anointed one.
Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2008-11-26 11:29:48)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6954|Long Island, New York
There's similar threats against the LIRR so I hear...a lot of commuters take the trains from the base stations in Port Washington and Ronkonkoma to the City (Penn Station usually) for work.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyo … 9654.story

Scary stuff. I always feel like there's no security on the trains.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-11-26 11:29:41)

Superior Mind
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+1,755|7110

Poseidon wrote:

There's similar threats against the LIRR so I hear...a lot of commuters take the trains from the base stations in Port Washington and Ronkonkoma to the City (Penn Station usually) for work.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyo … 9654.story

Scary stuff. I always feel like there's no security on the trains.
Yeah, some of the LIRR stations are pretty desolate.
san4
The Mas
+311|7105|NYC, a place to live

Superior Mind wrote:

Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.
I'm not sure what we're supposed to do, but what I usually do is report every guy wearing a turban to the police.
13/f/taiwan
Member
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Kmarion wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:


I will. I and, I think, most New Yorkers don't dwell on these sorts of things too much, but is definitely back there in the mind.
Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.
It sounds like you take it like we take our hurricane warnings. With the Neo's securely on the way out it's hard to simply say "fear mongers". That is until the masses turn on the anointed one.
TBH, any person can attack our subway/bus system. There is a bus stop every 2-5 blocks you walk and subway stations not too far away from each other. The NYPD has their "Random Bag checks" every so often at populated Subway Stations but that won't stop anyone from going on the train through another less-secure station. 

And...

Superior Mind wrote:

Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6954|Long Island, New York

Superior Mind wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

There's similar threats against the LIRR so I hear...a lot of commuters take the trains from the base stations in Port Washington and Ronkonkoma to the City (Penn Station usually) for work.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyo … 9654.story

Scary stuff. I always feel like there's no security on the trains.
Yeah, some of the LIRR stations are pretty desolate.
Tell me about it.

Especially Wyandanch's.

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6640|Escea

Switch wrote:

Be safe New Yorkers.
I concur, eyes peeled, ears pricked
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7018|132 and Bush

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Yeah, Ale- I mean Superior summed up what most New Yorkers think about this.

Anyone remember the terrorist plot to against the MTA Subway line from a few years back? Scary finding out the guy who was behind it owned a store with his father a block away from where I live.
It sounds like you take it like we take our hurricane warnings. With the Neo's securely on the way out it's hard to simply say "fear mongers". That is until the masses turn on the anointed one.
Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.
What do they tell you to do? Keep an (extra) eye out for suspicious activity?  Increased alertness? Remind you not to become complacent? .. which judging by your post has already happened.

If you took the time to actually read the article you would have noticed that this was an internal memo obtained by AP. The FBI hasn't officially authorized anyone to say anything. So to answer your question "what are we supposed to do with these warnings?", nothing. But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6119|College Park, MD
$5 says nothing happens

Stay vigilant and all that, better safe than sorry... but it's probably just another threat that'll never substantiate to more than "Ah yes Mohammed, blowing up the subways would be amazing!"
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6954|Long Island, New York

Kmarion wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It sounds like you take it like we take our hurricane warnings. With the Neo's securely on the way out it's hard to simply say "fear mongers". That is until the masses turn on the anointed one.
Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.
What do they tell you to do? Keep an (extra) eye out for suspicious activity?  Increased alertness? Remind you not to become complacent? .. which judging by your post has already happened.

If you took the time to actually read the article you would have noticed that this was an internal memo obtained by AP. The FBI hasn't officially authorized anyone to say anything. So to answer your question "what are we supposed to do with these warnings?", nothing. But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
The only thing they'll do is tell you to report suspicious activity and report unattended bags to the authorities immediately...but they always do. The only change will be extra security this season. AKA (more) National Guard troops with assault rifles.

So basically, if you forget your guitar on the ground, expect a bomb squad to blow it up.

There's really not much they can do. There is such a huge commute going on in places like Penn Station, especially now. It's an absolute fucking madhouse. I remember being in the city last year on Dec. 23rd...one of the best, yet the worst experiences of my life.
san4
The Mas
+311|7105|NYC, a place to live

Kmarion wrote:

But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
That is for sure. This was probably leaked to cover the FBI's ass in case something actually happens.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7110

Kmarion wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It sounds like you take it like we take our hurricane warnings. With the Neo's securely on the way out it's hard to simply say "fear mongers". That is until the masses turn on the anointed one.
Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.
What do they tell you to do? Keep an (extra) eye out for suspicious activity?  Increased alertness? Remind you not to become complacent? .. which judging by your post has already happened.

If you took the time to actually read the article you would have noticed that this was an internal memo obtained by AP. The FBI hasn't officially authorized anyone to say anything. So to answer your question "what are we supposed to do with these warnings?", nothing. But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
I've not become complacent. I accept the situation that I am in. However; I stay very aware of things going on around me. The most I can do to actually combat the terrorism is as Poseidon said, report suspicious activities and unattended bags. In the event of a dude pulling out a detonator on the train and yelling "God is great", the best I can do is A) tackle him if I'm close enough. or B) Hope "Don't Fear the Reaper" is playing on my iPod.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7018|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.
What do they tell you to do? Keep an (extra) eye out for suspicious activity?  Increased alertness? Remind you not to become complacent? .. which judging by your post has already happened.

If you took the time to actually read the article you would have noticed that this was an internal memo obtained by AP. The FBI hasn't officially authorized anyone to say anything. So to answer your question "what are we supposed to do with these warnings?", nothing. But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
The only thing they'll do is tell you to report suspicious activity and report unattended bags to the authorities immediately...but they always do. The only change will be extra security this season. AKA (more) National Guard troops with assault rifles.

So basically, if you forget your guitar on the ground, expect a bomb squad to blow it up.

There's really not much they can do. There is such a huge commute going on in places like Penn Station, especially now. It's an absolute fucking madhouse. I remember being in the city last year on Dec. 23rd...one of the best, yet the worst experiences of my life.
No people don't always report suspicious activity. As I said before they become complacent, especially around the holidays. That would explain the timing. I've been through NY and DC a few times this time of year.. I know what it's like.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7110

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


What do they tell you to do? Keep an (extra) eye out for suspicious activity?  Increased alertness? Remind you not to become complacent? .. which judging by your post has already happened.

If you took the time to actually read the article you would have noticed that this was an internal memo obtained by AP. The FBI hasn't officially authorized anyone to say anything. So to answer your question "what are we supposed to do with these warnings?", nothing. But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
The only thing they'll do is tell you to report suspicious activity and report unattended bags to the authorities immediately...but they always do. The only change will be extra security this season. AKA (more) National Guard troops with assault rifles.

So basically, if you forget your guitar on the ground, expect a bomb squad to blow it up.

There's really not much they can do. There is such a huge commute going on in places like Penn Station, especially now. It's an absolute fucking madhouse. I remember being in the city last year on Dec. 23rd...one of the best, yet the worst experiences of my life.
No people don't always report suspicious activity. As I said before they become complacent, especially around the holidays. That would explain the timing. I've been through NY and DC a few times this time of year.. I know what it's like.
You also should understand that most New Yorkers are used to weird shit, so we are not the best people to rely on to notice something unusual.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7018|132 and Bush

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Honesty, what are we supposed to do with these warnings? Stay off the subways? People have to get to work and school. At least with a hurricane one could board up the house and tie things down. A soldier can't just walk out of the suck. Fear no longer drives us. These threats are a part of life. If people abandoned the city every time there was a terror threat the city would collapse because no one would ever be here. You gotta do what you gotta do.

It pisses me off that a fucking terrorist lives(d) a few blocks from me.
What do they tell you to do? Keep an (extra) eye out for suspicious activity?  Increased alertness? Remind you not to become complacent? .. which judging by your post has already happened.

If you took the time to actually read the article you would have noticed that this was an internal memo obtained by AP. The FBI hasn't officially authorized anyone to say anything. So to answer your question "what are we supposed to do with these warnings?", nothing. But rest assured if something did happen people would lose their fucking minds if the FBI did not divulge any and all of the information they had.
I've not become complacent. I accept the situation that I am in. However; I stay very aware of things going on around me. The most I can do to actually combat the terrorism is as Poseidon said, report suspicious activities and unattended bags. In the event of a dude pulling out a detonator on the train and yelling "God is great", the best I can do is A) tackle him if I'm close enough. or B) Hope "Don't Fear the Reaper" is playing on my iPod.
You might not have but I absolutely guarantee that some have. 9/11 was seven years ago. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have moved to the city post 9/11. They are the ones who probably need a friendly reminder. .. but from what I gather this wasn't intended to be public knowledge. That is unless it was an intentional leak designed to "cover asses".. as san4 suggested.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7018|132 and Bush

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


The only thing they'll do is tell you to report suspicious activity and report unattended bags to the authorities immediately...but they always do. The only change will be extra security this season. AKA (more) National Guard troops with assault rifles.

So basically, if you forget your guitar on the ground, expect a bomb squad to blow it up.

There's really not much they can do. There is such a huge commute going on in places like Penn Station, especially now. It's an absolute fucking madhouse. I remember being in the city last year on Dec. 23rd...one of the best, yet the worst experiences of my life.
No people don't always report suspicious activity. As I said before they become complacent, especially around the holidays. That would explain the timing. I've been through NY and DC a few times this time of year.. I know what it's like.
You also should understand that most New Yorkers are used to weird shit, so we are not the best people to rely on to notice something unusual.
My Dad and my best friend are both from the city. Funny story, my Mom is from the deep south (Ga). I had a fun household growing up...lol.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7110

Kmarion wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


No people don't always report suspicious activity. As I said before they become complacent, especially around the holidays. That would explain the timing. I've been through NY and DC a few times this time of year.. I know what it's like.
You also should understand that most New Yorkers are used to weird shit, so we are not the best people to rely on to notice something unusual.
My Dad and my best friend are both from the city. Funny story, my Mom is from the deep south (Ga). I had a fun household growing up...lol.
Haha, I can only image. Both of my parents are Brooklyn born.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7038|London, England
Bah there's nothing you can really do anyway. Just get on with it like everyone else does.

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