4850 vs 4870

2008-12-14 17:19:36

#1

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

https://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3324/4870vs4850vx9.png

Both cards 512mb!

So I got a 4870 today....threw it under water and clocked it to 860/1000 before doing some benches.

I will keep this very short and to the point...as you can see, the 4870 is about 8% faster overall at the same clocks...possibly 9% if you clock the memory even higher to 1100 (4400). The biggest difference looks to be the maximum fps of Crysis with 4xAA. The 4870 also seems strong at 3dmark06 in comparison to the 4850 if you look at the individual sm2/sm3 scores...this shows that there's some power on tap here from the extra memory bandwidth...

Also keep in mind that the 4850 512mb was pencil modded and needed 1.37V for 860mhz...the 4870 did it on stock voltage which was measured with a DMM to be 1.277V under load. Both cards are under water and I will be vmodding the 4870 to see if I can get some more out of it

I will leave you all to draw your own conclusions as to the extra price of the 4870 over the 4850...hopefully this will spark some interesting discussion

Notes:

1. Settings in games are all maxed out (ultra, enthusiast..etc).
2. Resolution is 1680x1050 except 3dmark06 is the default 1280x1024

System test setup is:

* Server 2008 64bit
* E8500 @ 4607mhz
* 4x1gb OCZ SLI @ 1164mhz 5,5,5,15
* P5Q Deluxe
* Catalyst 8.12 BETA drivers, installed without CCC so default driver settings (balanced AFAIK)

http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f10/4870- … le-193397/

2008-12-14 17:21:01

#2

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6765|so randum

glad i went for the 50 tbh

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2008-12-14 17:29:42

#3

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|7008|London

Also keep in mind that the 4850 512mb was pencil modded and needed 1.37V for 860mhz...

2008-12-14 17:30:13

#4

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6729|cuntshitlake

Not a surprise to be honest. The only difference between a 4850 and a 4870 at same clocks is that the 4870 has GDDR5 instead or GDDR3. And you can't OC a 4850 to those clocks on air / without serious knowledge.

Besides the 4780 is only about 50e more expensive than 4850 as of the latest price drops.

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2008-12-14 17:31:47

#5

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

Dauntless wrote:
Also keep in mind that the 4850 512mb was pencil modded and needed 1.37V for 860mhz...

The point was to compare the cards clock for clock. Obviously the 4870 is superior in the fact that it can clock a bit higher.

2008-12-14 17:32:30

#6

Brasso: member; +1,549|6896

I thought you did all that, lol. Happy I went with the 4870 1GB. Very happy. Very.

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2008-12-14 17:33:25

#7

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

haffeysucks wrote:
I thought you did all that, lol. Happy I went with the 4870 1GB. Very happy. Very.

Oh, hell no. I'm too poor to fuck with volt modding.

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2008-12-14 17:36:27

#8

Brasso: member; +1,549|6896

CrazeD wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
I thought you did all that, lol. Happy I went with the 4870 1GB. Very happy. Very.
Oh, hell no. I'm too poor to fuck with volt modding.

Yeah I was like wow...Crazed is way legit.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-12-15 02:07:14

#9

some_random_panda: Flamesuit essential; +454|6656

<3 4850

Over 100 dollars less here (yes, that's a lot for us) and still runs crysis warhead on Gamer (I use XP) with over 30 fps. That's a huge improvement with 16 fps with my 7600 GS.

2008-12-15 02:23:03

#10

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

some_random_panda wrote:
<3 4850

Over 100 dollars less here (yes, that's a lot for us) and still runs crysis warhead on Gamer (I use XP) with over 30 fps. That's a huge improvement with 16 fps with my 7600 GS.

Indeed.

Now I just need some monies to buy a video card cooler so I can OC a bit.

I shoulda bought the HIS with the ICEQ4

2008-12-15 02:24:56

#11

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

I must change my opinion about which card I would get now for price range of 300.

XFX GTX 260/216 Black Edition is in some cases even faster than stock GTX 280. It looks awsome, is silent, is fast, has awsome warranty/support and is bundled with Far Cry 2.

https://www.motherboards.org/images/reviews/hardware/1836_p3_1.jpg?

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2008-12-15 02:45:35

#12

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

GTFO mah ATI threadz.

2008-12-15 02:57:38

#13

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

CrazeD wrote:
GTFO mah ATI threadz.

ha me flames u to dust. me a tri-fire duuude.

but specs and performance is with the Black Edition.

Actually it has one really cool thing budled with it too.

WELCOME TO THE DARK SIDE

https://i.neoseeker.com/neo_image/162274/article/xfxgtx260black/image11.jpg

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2008-12-15 03:08:34

#14

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

XFX owns, tbh.

2008-12-15 03:16:41

#15

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

CrazeD wrote:

XFX owns, tbh.

Yeah and they start shipping ATi cards in 2009 too

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-12-15 03:17:24)

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2008-12-15 03:16:44

#16

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

They better hurry up with the die shrink. I wunt my 2x GT200b GX2 SLI

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2008-12-15 03:49:41

#17

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

XFX owns, tbh.
Yeah and they start shipping ATi cards in 2009 too

NICE!!!

I hope the awesome warranties still apply.

2008-12-15 03:53:17

#18

Brasso: member; +1,549|6896

CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

XFX owns, tbh.
Yeah and they start shipping ATi cards in 2009 too
NICE!!!

I hope the awesome warranties still apply.

yeah, i'm excited too. not THAT excited - i want to keep my 4870 for a while. maybe a ltitle tri-fire in the future...

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-12-15 03:55:35

#19

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7109|Reykjavík, Iceland.

max wrote:
They better hurry up with the die shrink. I wunt my 2x GT200b GX2 SLI

Dibs on old cards assuming you are not creating another folding farm!

2008-12-15 04:55:46

#20

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

Sydney wrote:
max wrote:
They better hurry up with the die shrink. I wunt my 2x GT200b GX2 SLI
Dibs on old cards assuming you are not creating another folding farm!

I might do a little give away competition for my GX2 then

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-12-15 07:23:59

#21

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6463|Winland

max wrote:
Sydney wrote:
max wrote:
They better hurry up with the die shrink. I wunt my 2x GT200b GX2 SLI
Dibs on old cards assuming you are not creating another folding farm!
I might do a little give away competition for my GX2 then

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2008-12-15 08:32:10

#22

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

max wrote:
Sydney wrote:
max wrote:
They better hurry up with the die shrink. I wunt my 2x GT200b GX2 SLI
Dibs on old cards assuming you are not creating another folding farm!
I might do a little give away competition for my GX2 then

Max... you u made me join dark side again! Your pic of a 9800GX2 made me see the GTX 260/280 cards in whole different light.

(for some reason I started to really like the tank-like cards lol.)

other reason for my sudden interest in the green team is that their cards just seems to run the newest games better than ATi ones.

Now that I don't have to use nforce chipsets for SLi anymore (that was the doom of my 8800GTX SLi rig) I might as well go NV this time.

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2008-12-15 10:48:22

#23

The#1Spot: Member; +105|6805|byah

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
I must change my opinion about which card I would get now for price range of 300.

XFX GTX 260/216 Black Edition is in some cases even faster than stock GTX 280. It looks awsome, is silent, is fast, has awsome warranty/support and is bundled with Far Cry 2.

http://www.motherboards.org/images/revi … _p3_1.jpg?

Far Cry 2 sucks though.

2008-12-15 10:52:25

#24

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

The#1Spot wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
I must change my opinion about which card I would get now for price range of 300.

XFX GTX 260/216 Black Edition is in some cases even faster than stock GTX 280. It looks awsome, is silent, is fast, has awsome warranty/support and is bundled with Far Cry 2.

http://www.motherboards.org/images/revi … _p3_1.jpg?
Far Cry 2 sucks though.

sucks? you are the first one I have heard to say that.

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2008-12-15 11:40:24

#25

Brasso: member; +1,549|6896

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
The#1Spot wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
I must change my opinion about which card I would get now for price range of 300.

XFX GTX 260/216 Black Edition is in some cases even faster than stock GTX 280. It looks awsome, is silent, is fast, has awsome warranty/support and is bundled with Far Cry 2.

http://www.motherboards.org/images/revi … _p3_1.jpg?
Far Cry 2 sucks though.
sucks? you are the first one I have heard to say that.

everyone here hates it. include me on that list.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

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