Poll

What internet browser do you use?

Internet Explorer8%8% - 13
FireFox70%70% - 110
Opera9%9% - 15
Safari0%0% - 0
Netscape0%0% - 0
Other10%10% - 17
Total: 155
RavyGravy
Son.
+617|6669|NSW, Australia

IE, it was the deafult
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6865|132 and Bush

max wrote:

Can someone explain this whole speed thing to me?

I notice absolutely no difference between the browsers when it comes to the time it takes for it to load a new page. I always seem to be bandwidth limited. Any example sites that make the difference more apparent?
The difference is noticeable over time. Facebook is one of those sites that I see the difference.

Here is a common unbiased way they test and rate browsers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3#Desktop_browsers

I can't wait for Carakan."5 and 50 times faster"
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-De … pt-Engine/

*Not a knock on FF. I still use it and the extensions are indeed
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jsnipy
...
+3,277|6786|...

ff ffs
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

acid3 is a standards compliance test and doesn't have anything to do with speed afaik

To loose the customizability of FF for a couple ms rendering speed just doesn't make sense to me. Then again all my PCs are rather high end. If you're surfing on a P4 or something the world might look a little different.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6412|'straya
Other.

Google Chrome.

a very nice simple, fast web browser... i dont need 1000 add-ons just something that loads pages fast.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6865|132 and Bush

max wrote:

acid3 is a standards compliance test and doesn't have anything to do with speed afaik

To loose the customizability of FF for a couple ms rendering speed just doesn't make sense to me. Then again all my PCs are rather high end. If you're surfing on a P4 or something the world might look a little different.
It most certainly does.
http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid3
The third test is the so called “smoothness” criterion. It is basically a speed test. No subtest may take too long – and especially subtest 26 is challenging. Compared to Slickspeed, Sun Spider, the V8 test suite or Dromaeo Acid3 is not so thorough. It will give some indication of a browsers speed, though.
I understand your reasoning. But I have enough customization in Opera already.
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

hmm, fair enough. It's not really a useful benchmark if the result is only pass or fail. Any data on which browsers pass and which don't?

In the end it's a personal choice that you have to make for yourself.

max wrote:

To loose the customizability of FF for a couple ms rendering speed just doesn't make sense to me. Then again all my PCs are rather high end. If you're surfing on a P4 or something the world might look a little different.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6702|King Of The Islands

max wrote:

only pass or fail
Acid3 has a percentage dunnit?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

I was referring to the subtest, duh
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6865|132 and Bush

max wrote:

hmm, fair enough. It's not really a useful benchmark if the result is only pass or fail. Any data on which browsers pass and which don't?

In the end it's a personal choice that you have to make for yourself.

max wrote:

To loose the customizability of FF for a couple ms rendering speed just doesn't make sense to me. Then again all my PCs are rather high end. If you're surfing on a P4 or something the world might look a little different.
Just promise me you'll try 10 when it comes out .
http://www.opera.com/browser/next/

They are really shifting their power to the web 2.0 stuff. That's why I said I definetly notice a difference on facebook.

You get a score cheez.
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

Sure I'll give it a shot.

I'm not a fan of web 2.0. I prefer forums, email and *gasp* the phone over social networking. I get my entertainment from usenet. I like my websites with just some simple HTML over tons of flash and javascript.

Shit, I think I'm getting old.

Back to my old question: And data on which browsers pass the subtest 26 and which don't?
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
phishman420
Banned
+821|5945
ill try opera again when they have adblock plus
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

phishman420 wrote:

ill try opera again when they have adblock plus
you can import the filter list into opera somehow. Google it
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
phishman420
Banned
+821|5945
too much work when firefox already does it for me
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

just saying
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6996|St. Andrews / Oslo

Kmarion wrote:

Just promise me you'll try 10 when it comes out .
http://www.opera.com/browser/next/
Didn't know Alpha was available for download! Thanks for the link
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png https://twitter.com/phoenix/favicon.ico
JoshP
Banned
+176|5953|Notts, UK

Jenspm wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Just promise me you'll try 10 when it comes out .
http://www.opera.com/browser/next/
Didn't know Alpha was available for download! Thanks for the link
omg awsm

ps copy wand.dat opera6.ini and cookies4.dat from your old opera profile to the new one if you want to keep the settings

It even remembers all your tabs that you had open in Opera 9.x when you copy those files over, lulz
Semiotic
Member
+0|5813|Netherlands
I'm using Google Chrome atm. It just so lightweight, easy to handle and stuff.
And the crash system is really good. The entire browser can crash of course it can.
Though if a page crashes. It only crashes the tab, not the entire browser. So thats pretty neat.

But, Firefox still rocks too. I just need the add-ons as a webdesigner. Like FireBug and FireFTP.
Firebug is just a dream for every designer out there. Amazing stuff.

As for Internet Explorer...Don't want to talk dirty about that..geez..
I remember this graph about IE: Breakdown of modern webdesign:
http://morango.co.uk/images/web-design-pie-chart.png

Thats why I deleted IE from my pc
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6842|Columbus, OH
If I stop using IE, Bill Gates will unleash his pet mosquitoes on me.
justice
OctoPoster
+978|7005|OctoLand

.Sup wrote:

Chrome
I know fucking karate
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6865|132 and Bush

phishman420 wrote:

too much work when firefox already does it for me
Takes about 2 minutes. ftr

JoshP wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Just promise me you'll try 10 when it comes out .
http://www.opera.com/browser/next/
Didn't know Alpha was available for download! Thanks for the link
omg awsm

ps copy wand.dat opera6.ini and cookies4.dat from your old opera profile to the new one if you want to keep the settings

It even remembers all your tabs that you had open in Opera 9.x when you copy those files over, lulz
Np, just remember is alpha.
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Semiotic
Member
+0|5813|Netherlands

loubot wrote:

If I stop using IE, Bill Gates will unleash his pet mosquitoes on me.
Whats that about mac-ho in your avatar then? (A)
JoshP
Banned
+176|5953|Notts, UK

Kmarion wrote:

phishman420 wrote:

too much work when firefox already does it for me
Takes about 2 minutes. ftr

JoshP wrote:

Jenspm wrote:


Didn't know Alpha was available for download! Thanks for the link
omg awsm

ps copy wand.dat opera6.ini and cookies4.dat from your old opera profile to the new one if you want to keep the settings

It even remembers all your tabs that you had open in Opera 9.x when you copy those files over, lulz
Np, just remember is alpha.
I seem to prefer pre-release versions of Opera lawl, I didn't like 9.50 final so I've stuck with 9.50 beta2, and now I'm using 10.00 alpha
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6842|Columbus, OH

Semiotic wrote:

loubot wrote:

If I stop using IE, Bill Gates will unleash his pet mosquitoes on me.
Whats that about mac-ho in your avatar then? (A)
It's a pic of Steve Jobs in a funny pose that's all
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7030|Cambridge (UK)
teh fox o' fire.

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