Because getting instant accuracy after going prone is stupidLucien wrote:
What is so bad about being able to shoot accurately after proning? Why do people want to remove it? Hasn't the damn game been nerfed enough already?
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt … ing-9.html
It seems the idiots are now rallying to remove any form of fast, accurate shooting from BF2
"It's not realistic enough, let's make it realistic and break the game!"Mekstizzle wrote:
Because getting instant accuracy after going prone is stupid
Last edited by TehMyke (2009-04-22 15:19:48)
fix'dTehMyke wrote:
go play bf heroes n00bs, stop breaking mauh bf2 with teh nerfz!!1!
- http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt … dream.htmlI wrote:
I've been trying to ignore all the hype of the upcoming patch/patch currently in beta due to exams coming up in June. However, I feel that the wishes of the active players have been ignored, and I feel the need to post this thread in their defense.
I've seen many similar threads, but they seem to be made by amateur gamers who have not really got to grips on how this great game should be played. The guys that I am talking about are the guys requesting AA to be more powerful, longer delays on prone and fixes on such issues like bunny hopping. These are minor issues, that can be dealt with by simple adaptions, using your common sense, and of course - a decent handi-coordination. There is NO need for the following 'fixes':
Improved AA, including IGLA, Stinger, USS Essex & Mobile AA. All AA in BF2 is currently completely balanced compared with the air vehicles themselves. There is no reason why a jet on ANY map should dominate if the other team use their common sense... There are numerous IGLA/Stinger planted around all airmaps for a reason, if used correctly they can dominate any aircrew. Stop whining and start using your brain. This in mind, the more skilled players can take down enemy aircraft with Anti-Tank missiles, tank shells & TV-Missiles. It can be done, stop whining and start practicing and perhaps you, someday can recieve the wondeful relief that one feels as he 'rolls' some chopper/jet with a kit/vehicle not originally suited to deal with enemy aircraft.
Hand held AA kit, I've seen this mentioned in numerous other threads/forums, it's a bad idea and would render ALL aircraft useless.
Teamwork points imbalance, I've also seen this mentioned in other threads/forums. The majority of players complain that the Spec-Ops kit & Engineer kit does'nt recieve enough points for the roles they partake in (destroying enemy assits/repairing team vehicles ect...). At this stage, I really doubt the players who play for the right reasons care about what points they recieve while playing these kits. These kits should be used when in a specified vehcile that requires player to be equipped with C4/Wrench ect... Not throughout an entire round. Medics should recieve the most amount of teamwork points as they contribute most to a team (closely followed by Anti-Tank) and it should stay that way.
Prone delays, I really don't see the point in making an already slow/laggy game slower. If anything, the game should be made quicker and more 'arcade like'. Prone delays need to be set back to the original '0.3'. Every player can do it, it's not like some players have an advantage over others. It's not lame, its a method of moving quickly and shooting accuratly. If the enemy player has any idea he will roll all over the proned player, adapt... use your brain, not the ingame chat - "U R LIEK NUB OMFG BUNNY NUB, LRN2PLAY BF2..."
There are some issues that need to be attended to, clearly, and need to be done right. I could name 100 players off the top of my head that could tell you (EA/Dice) exactly what to change to give this game the potential it has. It's clear the programmers are listening to the wrong people.
I've come here before and listed off numerous issues that need addressing, I spent hours making the post, and put alot of thought into it. I recieved no reply from any EA/Dice representitive, which is probably why this great game, that we all love to hate, gets worse with every patch.
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Last edited by Oisín | Irishpride (2009-04-22 15:24:22)
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I look up to this man haha true that!TehMyke wrote:
go play projcet reality fgts, stop breaking mauh bf2 with teh nerfz!!1!
Spawning every 15 seconds in predesignated spots is stupid.Mekstizzle wrote:
Because getting instant accuracy after going prone is stupidLucien wrote:
What is so bad about being able to shoot accurately after proning? Why do people want to remove it? Hasn't the damn game been nerfed enough already?
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt … ing-9.html
It seems the idiots are now rallying to remove any form of fast, accurate shooting from BF2
AA is fine...I dont have a 7KDR from over 70hours in AA from playing OSS, ORR and Daqing for no reason. And no, I dont rape GT for that. Yes, statsrlife, however, its a damn good indication.Ei Em wrote:
AA rant
The problem with stationary AA is that it shows up in the HUD in bombing mode.Snake wrote:
AA is fine...I dont have a 7KDR from over 70hours in AA from playing OSS, ORR and Daqing for no reason. And no, I dont rape GT for that. Yes, statsrlife, however, its a damn good indication.Ei Em wrote:
AA rant
You need tactics, you need cover, and you need to be sneaky. Cover is absolute key, because if a jet is coming at you and you move behind that huge Oil Cistern...guess what, he can no longer see you and you can put 2-3 up his tailpipe with ease. Sitting in the open waiting for the enemy heli/jet just doesn't work. You need to be entirely focussed on the air, for incoming jets and/or helis by spinning your turret like its on steroids to keep an eye out. Dont lock onto a heli as soon as it is in range, let it get closer (if it doesnt go directly for you, that is). You should be able to, often enough, take out a jet who is aiming straight at you by the time its about to drop its bombs. If you are good enough, enemy jets will focus on you in your Mobile AA and nothing else: because you are by far the biggest threat to them.
Bomber jets can be a huge problem due to the LGM, but, again, cover is the key. AA has the highest learning curve for ground-based vehicles, perhaps even including infantry, which is its biggest problem.
However, I agree with stationary AA, because it is utter shite.
^^^^QFT^^^^TehMyke wrote:
go play projcet reality fgts, stop breaking mauh bf2 with teh nerfz!!1!
I think I'll do exactly that.TehMyke wrote:
go play projcet reality fgts, stop breaking mauh bf2 with teh nerfz!!1!
Jesus some of you are retarded.globefish23 wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS
I agree with the Essex' Phalanx CIWS being way too underpowered.
IRL, that thing is a fully-automated, radar controlled monster spitting tungsten ammunition over many kilometers at rate of 3000^-1.
It was designed to take down incoming anti-ship missiles, which go a bit faster than a jet.
So, anything approaching a ship with a Phalanx installed would be hitting a curtain of tungsten.
In BF2 the proportions definitely are not right. Caliber .50 guns or even light MGs do more damage to aircraft.
If it makes you feel any better to know that my total time in the AA (including all of my mass amount of accounts) is 342:21:14 (eventhough my "main" account only has 19:11:25...) and average KDR of 5.4. Just if it makes me "good enough" to comment these things.Snake wrote:
AA is already über-pwner.
Ei Em wrote:
If it makes you feel any better to know that my total time in the AA (including all of my mass amount of accounts) is 342:21:14 (eventhough my "main" account only has 19:11:25...) and average KDR of 5.4. Just if it makes me "good enough" to comment these things.Snake wrote:
AA is already über-pwner.
But as I said, if one is playing on server where people actually know how to TV/fly jets AA is almost pointless.
For example; Dragon, BF2s server, Irish in choppa. (I use fine example player here) Our AA had HUGE opportunity against Irish. No shit. Irish just shot the AA everytime inside the hall with TV, or if the AA got out (when Irish was resupplying or etc.) choppa was way out of the range of AA but in the range TV, or Irish just shot from the canyon/behind trees where AA's can't lock. That's just example from one map. Even it didn't help that there was someone trying to use the stinger (same time with AA) to take Irish.
Now, with jets, taking AA is even easier. Hell, I play on server where 95% of the players have voice, they aren't lamejoining pricks/10 year young toddlers and commanders usually spot everything/tell where everything is when you ask them, so "hiding" is very useless. There's always way to kill the AA from some direction and flyer can do it before AA can even lock.
(Of course anyone can play on servers where you can kill almost everyone and everything with AA's, but that doesn't mean AA is good. AA just plain and simple sucks when good pilots fly. I doesn't help much your own pilots. It is under every form of attack all the time and finding AA's is way easier for jet/helo than for AA to find them.)
Last edited by Oisín | Irishpride (2009-04-24 08:01:42)