[TF2] The Sniper/Spy Update

2009-05-20 23:00:21

#326

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6692

Well it makes sense. The razorback isn't nearly a worthwhile tradeoff for the SMG while the jar is a little closer. Maybe if you could extinguish yourself it might be worth it just or if it replaced the machete (so you could splash people then finish them with the SMG).

2009-05-20 23:09:34

#327

Fenris_GreyClaw: Real Хорошо; +826|6776|Adelaide, South Australia

It makes more sense for Jar-Kukri and Razorback-SMG.

The Razorback stuns the spy, allowing for an easy Kukri to the face. Alternatively, you can jar people and spray them with the SMG, actually dealing some damage.

Having Jar-SMG and Razorback-Kukri makes little sense as you don't need a damage multiplier for the Kukri/Main weapon and the spy stun would then leave you susceptible to running out of ammo (unlikely but possible), and thus leaving you without a weapon. I assume the jar would have either multiple uses or be like the Sandvich.

2009-05-20 23:16:50

#328

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6692

Just going on what they've done in the past. The secondary weapon is usually the wackiest toy or most different. Like the flaregun to the shotgun, sandvich to the shotgun or the drink for the pistol. So it makes sense that their wacky jar is probably replacing the secondary.

Edit: I'm probably right

https://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/images/AchievementIcons/sniper/tf_sniper_jarate_chop.png

"Jarate chop". Meaning you'll still have the machete.

Last edited by Fat_Swinub (2009-05-20 23:18:39)

2009-05-21 01:30:22

#329

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6600

https://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/images/AchievementIcons/sniper/tf_sniper_trust_your_feelings.png

This one made me lol hard

https://www.abload.de/img/bf3-bf2ssig0250wvn.jpg

2009-05-21 01:45:34

#330

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7031|Noizyland

...

...God dammit Sisco...

[Blinking eyes thing]
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tzyon

2009-05-21 03:37:08

#331

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6600

Ty wrote:
...

...God dammit Sisco...

wat?

2009-05-21 03:59:45

#332

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6526

Yeah that Star Wars one made me laugh too. I wonder what you need to do for it.

So I guess the question now is...

Will there be a Butterfly Knife unlockable? My guess is yes, but a lot of people are unsure.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 04:04:34)

2009-05-21 04:04:49

#333

Fenris_GreyClaw: Real Хорошо; +826|6776|Adelaide, South Australia

Spidery_Yoda wrote:
Yeah that Star Wars one made me laugh too. I wonder what you need to do for it.

I bet it's 5 No-Scoped kills in one life.

2009-05-21 04:10:08

#334

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6600

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
Spidery_Yoda wrote:
Yeah that Star Wars one made me laugh too. I wonder what you need to do for it.
I bet it's 5 No-Scoped kills in one life.

this. or dropping proton torpedos on the death star.

2009-05-21 04:25:55

#335

Stimey: +786|6376|Ontario | Canada

Spidery_Yoda wrote:
Yeah that Star Wars one made me laugh too. I wonder what you need to do for it.

So I guess the question now is...

Will there be a Butterfly Knife unlockable? My guess is yes, but a lot of people are unsure.

I think its Dracula.
Maybe something like leeching health or something along those lines.
The "Meet the Spy" vide0 has 2 boxes that say "lost dracula" and "found dracula"
And theres one achievement where the spy's hand is popping out of the ground with a differently shaped knife.

2009-05-21 04:38:12

#336

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6526

Yeah I remember seeing the Dracula boxes. They could just be a joke. But it would certainly be a suitable name for a new knife.

I really can't think of what they could do to the current one, assuming it keeps the backstab ability. If they make the knife completely different then it'll be interesting to see what happens to it.

I say interesting. I'll probably just go since a lot of the unlockables so far seem to have been about lowering a class's skill ceiling, rather than raising it. But we'll see. I'll stay optimistic.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 04:49:06)

2009-05-21 04:48:43

#337

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6725

Make the knife only do frontstabs!

Uberspies incoming!

2009-05-21 05:00:12

#338

Kez: Member; +778|5959|London, UK

OP Updated

Jarate is actually amazing. The Sandvich got flamed as well but is actually a worthy replacement of the Shotgun.

2009-05-21 05:03:45

#339

Kez: Member; +778|5959|London, UK

Btw, suspected Sniper descriptions from TF2 Wiki

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Sniper_achievements

(not accurate until Valve releases the descriptions)

2009-05-21 05:06:18

#340

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6526

Kptk92 wrote:
Jarate is actually amazing. The Sandvich got flamed as well but is actually a worthy replacement of the Shotgun.

That really is a matter of opinion. Not only is the Sandvich incredibly boring (is has no.. ability. You just press fire and get health. Fun.) but the Shotgun is too good to lose if you can aim with it. You move pretty much as fast as a Soldier and have enough health to 1v1 any class if you land your shots, which isn't very hard because since you're moving slowly, aiming is pretty easy. Depending on the level of course health packs may be scarce, but on most levels there's a good supply always nearby.

I never have Sandvich equiped.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 05:15:04)

2009-05-21 05:08:17

#341

Kez: Member; +778|5959|London, UK

Oh, I have Sandvich equipped all the time. I guess it's just a matter of what people like more, or what situation they're going to be in. If a team has no Medic, then the Sandvich would be a good idea, for example.

2009-05-21 05:14:51

#342

NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6725

But what do you do when some pesky pyro comes in from around corner and you don't have time to rev up?

You use shotgun. And if that don't work, you use more shotgun.

2009-05-21 05:19:51

#343

Kez: Member; +778|5959|London, UK

Or rev up, kill him and eat. There's two ways you can do it, and it depends on what you have equipped.

2009-05-21 05:32:55

#344

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6600

NooBesT wrote:
But what do you do when some pesky pyro comes in from around corner and you don't have time to rev up?

You use shotgun. And if that don't work, you use more shotgun.

Switching to shotgun takes as long as spinning up the gun, doesn´t it?

2009-05-21 06:17:05

#345

Fenris_GreyClaw: Real Хорошо; +826|6776|Adelaide, South Australia

So I'm hanging out in /v/ watching the Jarate piss shit-storm, and I've seen a few posters say that the Razorback and Jarate will take up the secondary slots, and the Spy and Sniper's new meleè weapons come tomorrow.

My hopes for a Boomerang have risen.

2009-05-21 06:33:03

#346

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6526

Sisco10 wrote:
NooBesT wrote:
But what do you do when some pesky pyro comes in from around corner and you don't have time to rev up?

You use shotgun. And if that don't work, you use more shotgun.
Switching to shotgun takes as long as spinning up the gun, doesn´t it?

You run around with the Shotgun out. Instant attack with full freedom of movement.

Switch to the Minigun when you're about to face a large number of enemies.

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
and I've seen a few posters say that the Razorback and Jarate will take up the secondary slots, and the Spy and Sniper's new meleè weapons come tomorrow.

That would make sense. Neither Sniper unlock looks like it replaces melee, and obviously neither Spy one does either. So today we'll have melee, hats, the new unlocking system, and achievement descriptions?

So today will be a big update. Unless we get something retarded like this

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 06:38:02)

2009-05-21 06:37:23

#347

Kez: Member; +778|5959|London, UK

Spidery_Yoda wrote:
Sisco10 wrote:
NooBesT wrote:
But what do you do when some pesky pyro comes in from around corner and you don't have time to rev up?

You use shotgun. And if that don't work, you use more shotgun.
Switching to shotgun takes as long as spinning up the gun, doesn´t it?
You run around with the Shotgun out. Instant attack with full freedom of movement.

Switch to the Minigun when you're about to face a large number of enemies.

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
and I've seen a few posters say that the Razorback and Jarate will take up the secondary slots, and the Spy and Sniper's new meleè weapons come tomorrow.
That would make sense. Neither Sniper unlock looks like it replaces melee, and obviously neither Spy one does either. So today we'll have melee, hats, the new unlocking system, and achievement descriptions?

So today will be a big update.

Providing that actually happens..

2009-05-21 06:38:50

#348

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6526

Yeah. They could just give both classes no new melee weapon. It would be a strange thing if they did that though.

2009-05-21 06:44:09

#349

Kez: Member; +778|5959|London, UK

Although the idea of both melee weapons tonight gives me great hope... but no other class has had 4 unlocks, so I dunno..

2009-05-21 07:28:10

#350

legionair: back to i-life; +336|6880|EU

So I assume that after update comes everyone will try to play sniper or spy, thanks god the number of kits available is limited . . .

Nevertheless does anyone know a good guide to play spy?

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