Vilham
Say wat!?
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

It's funny how creationists disbelieve carbon dating as being wildly inaccurate and yet they use it to try and prove they've found Noah's Ark.
That was my first thought.

I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
I heard you are a moron.
Stimey
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Take THAT evolutionists!
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Uzique
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Vilham wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

It's funny how creationists disbelieve carbon dating as being wildly inaccurate and yet they use it to try and prove they've found Noah's Ark.
That was my first thought.

I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
I heard you are a moron.
rofl, yeah.

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?

you christians are fucked up
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6927|Austin, Texas

Uzique wrote:

Vilham wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

That was my first thought.

I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
I heard you are a moron.
rofl, yeah.

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?

you christians are fucked up
probably has to do with the uncertainty of half life or the initial amount of carbon 14

uncertainties are a bitch

the difference between scientifically provable and "strong evidence" I suppose

Last edited by Bevo (2010-04-27 13:22:31)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6877
yeah it's like latching on the small technicalities of evolutionary theory that cannot easily be explained to the layman...

christians don't have a fucking clue. if they did, they wouldnt believe in jesus and god. tru fact.
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Cash 'N Prizes
we get in what we fit in 'round here
+18|5786|Toledo, Ohio
that's the fact, jack
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,746|7143|Cinncinatti

Uzique wrote:

you christians are fucked up
says uzique...lol
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pace51
Boom?
+194|5580|Markham, Ontario
So... now I'm fucked up, clueless, and an idiot?

If I don't go out in the morning, read you something, and try to make you belive it using insults or threats... neither should you.

And that fact, my friend is real.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6877
hey if im fucked in any regard it's because of my own existentialist, self-steering actions

fuck religion and their voodoo highjinx
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pace51
Boom?
+194|5580|Markham, Ontario

Uzique wrote:

hey if im fucked in any regard it's because of my own existentialist, self-steering actions

fuck religion and their voodoo highjinx
Firstly, you're not fucked up dude. So don't tell yourself that.
Christbane
Member
+51|6641
yes lets spend millions  more dollars finding stuff like this!  because it is sure to feed all the starving people of the world!  so if we somehow prove God is real is he going to then come down from heaven to fix all that is wrong in the world?  silly waste of time and money. if you believe he is real isnt that good enough?
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7139|St. Andrews / Oslo

Uzique wrote:

Vilham wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

That was my first thought.

I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
I heard you are a moron.
rofl, yeah.

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?

you christians are fucked up
well, it's been a few years since I did this in school, but anyway. The carbon-14 method of gauging age is done my measuring the amount of Carbon-14 left in the item. We know how quickly it decreases, and thus we're able to track back to around the time it died. The half-life of carbon-14 (ie the time it takes to half) is 5730 years. It is therefore almost down to a quarter after 10k years, so I think shifty's number of 10k is quite a bit off. Still, the point is there.

To take an easy number, 57300 years from now, the percentage is down to 0.098%, and understandably the gauging becomes more difficult and impossible to get accurate.

Last edited by Jenspm (2010-04-27 13:39:31)

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Jenspm
penis
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/me flexes 10th grade science muscles
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Nappy
Apprentice
+151|6636|NSW, Australia

Jaekus wrote:

It's like being told the Easter Bunny and Santa aren't real, and rather than accepting your parents were doing it all along, you set out to prove these things exist.
The easter bunny is REAL!!!
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6562|Vancouver | Canada
Lol Fox News.
globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6730|Graz, Austria

Uzique wrote:

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
It's more like 55000 years.
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.

Edit:
Overlooked Jenspm's post.
(He's scientifically more muscular.)

Last edited by globefish23 (2010-04-27 14:58:14)

presidentsheep
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globefish23 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
It's more like 55000 years.
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Bevo
Nah
+718|6927|Austin, Texas

presidentsheep wrote:

globefish23 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
It's more like 55000 years.
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
it's god taking away their C14 as a test of your faith. if you believe this carbon stuff is true you've lost your faith

/sarcasm
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6877

presidentsheep wrote:

globefish23 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
It's more like 55000 years.
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
that was my point. i know that elements have a half-life and a finite-determinable accuracy/age. my point is that if we can carbon date stuff back to 10,000 years or so... why the fuck does it matter? christians nitpicking the methodology and science are missing the point that their beloved god was making shit out of clay way after that, apparently.
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presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
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Uzique wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

globefish23 wrote:


It's more like 55000 years.
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
that was my point. i know that elements have a half-life and a finite-determinable accuracy/age. my point is that if we can carbon date stuff back to 10,000 years or so... why the fuck does it matter? christians nitpicking the methodology and science are missing the point that their beloved god was making shit out of clay way after that, apparently.
Thing is you can constantly point things like this out to them and it's just a "test" and they'll move onto something science can't explain yet.
God of gaps and all that. I'm just happy the gaps will run out eventually.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6904

presidentsheep wrote:

I'm just happy the gaps will run out eventually.
. . . and we'll be left with the unified field theory.
M.O.A.B
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mtb0minime
minimember
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And when we reach the point of no more religion in the future, we'll have groups of people fighting over what the correct name for the atheist organization is
GR34
Member
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lol.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5585|Sydney

mtb0minime wrote:

And when we reach the point of no more religion in the future, we'll have groups of people fighting over what the correct name for the atheist organization is
Thing is, atheism doesn't need an organisation, because it's simply a choice not to believe in religion. I don't see why a group of people would feel the need to get together on a regular basis to discuss about how they don't believe in something - they'd just live their lives and move on.

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