I heard you are a moron.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That was my first thought.Jaekus wrote:
It's funny how creationists disbelieve carbon dating as being wildly inaccurate and yet they use it to try and prove they've found Noah's Ark.
I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
Take THAT evolutionists!
rofl, yeah.Vilham wrote:
I heard you are a moron.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That was my first thought.Jaekus wrote:
It's funny how creationists disbelieve carbon dating as being wildly inaccurate and yet they use it to try and prove they've found Noah's Ark.
I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
you christians are fucked up
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probably has to do with the uncertainty of half life or the initial amount of carbon 14Uzique wrote:
rofl, yeah.Vilham wrote:
I heard you are a moron.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That was my first thought.
I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
you christians are fucked up
uncertainties are a bitch
the difference between scientifically provable and "strong evidence" I suppose
Last edited by Bevo (2010-04-27 13:22:31)
yeah it's like latching on the small technicalities of evolutionary theory that cannot easily be explained to the layman...
christians don't have a fucking clue. if they did, they wouldnt believe in jesus and god. tru fact.
christians don't have a fucking clue. if they did, they wouldnt believe in jesus and god. tru fact.
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that's the fact, jack
So... now I'm fucked up, clueless, and an idiot?
If I don't go out in the morning, read you something, and try to make you belive it using insults or threats... neither should you.
And that fact, my friend is real.
If I don't go out in the morning, read you something, and try to make you belive it using insults or threats... neither should you.
And that fact, my friend is real.
hey if im fucked in any regard it's because of my own existentialist, self-steering actions
fuck religion and their voodoo highjinx
fuck religion and their voodoo highjinx
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Firstly, you're not fucked up dude. So don't tell yourself that.Uzique wrote:
hey if im fucked in any regard it's because of my own existentialist, self-steering actions
fuck religion and their voodoo highjinx
yes lets spend millions more dollars finding stuff like this! because it is sure to feed all the starving people of the world! so if we somehow prove God is real is he going to then come down from heaven to fix all that is wrong in the world? silly waste of time and money. if you believe he is real isnt that good enough?
well, it's been a few years since I did this in school, but anyway. The carbon-14 method of gauging age is done my measuring the amount of Carbon-14 left in the item. We know how quickly it decreases, and thus we're able to track back to around the time it died. The half-life of carbon-14 (ie the time it takes to half) is 5730 years. It is therefore almost down to a quarter after 10k years, so I think shifty's number of 10k is quite a bit off. Still, the point is there.Uzique wrote:
rofl, yeah.Vilham wrote:
I heard you are a moron.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That was my first thought.
I heard it was good to about 10'000 years, so the guys using it on dinosaurs are full of bullshit.
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
you christians are fucked up
To take an easy number, 57300 years from now, the percentage is down to 0.098%, and understandably the gauging becomes more difficult and impossible to get accurate.
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The easter bunny is REAL!!!Jaekus wrote:
It's like being told the Easter Bunny and Santa aren't real, and rather than accepting your parents were doing it all along, you set out to prove these things exist.
Lol Fox News.
It's more like 55000 years.Uzique wrote:
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Edit:
Overlooked Jenspm's post.
(He's scientifically more muscular.)
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Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.globefish23 wrote:
It's more like 55000 years.Uzique wrote:
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
it's god taking away their C14 as a test of your faith. if you believe this carbon stuff is true you've lost your faithpresidentsheep wrote:
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.globefish23 wrote:
It's more like 55000 years.Uzique wrote:
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
/sarcasm
that was my point. i know that elements have a half-life and a finite-determinable accuracy/age. my point is that if we can carbon date stuff back to 10,000 years or so... why the fuck does it matter? christians nitpicking the methodology and science are missing the point that their beloved god was making shit out of clay way after that, apparently.presidentsheep wrote:
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.globefish23 wrote:
It's more like 55000 years.Uzique wrote:
why the fuck would a rigorous and empirical scientific method work up to 10,000 years, and then suddenly become whack pseudo-science?
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Thing is you can constantly point things like this out to them and it's just a "test" and they'll move onto something science can't explain yet.Uzique wrote:
that was my point. i know that elements have a half-life and a finite-determinable accuracy/age. my point is that if we can carbon date stuff back to 10,000 years or so... why the fuck does it matter? christians nitpicking the methodology and science are missing the point that their beloved god was making shit out of clay way after that, apparently.presidentsheep wrote:
Crazy stuff carbon dating. Think the most they can measure currently is 62,000 years.globefish23 wrote:
It's more like 55000 years.
With even older samples, the amount of C14 will be below detection limit due to radioactive decay of about 10 half-lives.
Which in itself is older than the bible claims the earth to be?
God of gaps and all that. I'm just happy the gaps will run out eventually.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
. . . and we'll be left with the unified field theory.presidentsheep wrote:
I'm just happy the gaps will run out eventually.
And when we reach the point of no more religion in the future, we'll have groups of people fighting over what the correct name for the atheist organization is
lol.
Thing is, atheism doesn't need an organisation, because it's simply a choice not to believe in religion. I don't see why a group of people would feel the need to get together on a regular basis to discuss about how they don't believe in something - they'd just live their lives and move on.mtb0minime wrote:
And when we reach the point of no more religion in the future, we'll have groups of people fighting over what the correct name for the atheist organization is