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Epic treehouse I built in Tazz's server burnt to the ground. Culprit: troll burning netherrack buried just under the dirt.

Could've been mine, for all I know, when I was dicking around with smoke effects.

pve.incredicraft.com is outdated. creative.incredicraft.com is not.

laptop can barely run as it is. fucking shadows. weather will kill it

Tazz did I make my giant pyramid on your server

Have you bought it yet?

I've been a busy person on the server I play on.



All of that mined and did not use the give command once.  Streamed the entire time too.

Last edited by Naturn (2011-04-08 22:34:17)

Saying you mined all the raw material for a megastructure in Minecraft is like saying you farmed five hundred thousand Goombas on world 1-1 for coins in Mario. I don't really know what else to say but Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me. I guess I prefer to focus on structure rather than the legitimacy of material acquisition. It doesn't give me any greater sense of accomplishment having spent tons of time tok-tok-tokking away for easy-to-acquire materials. It's not as if you're going to use it to repel an orcish horde.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Saying you mined all the raw material for a megastructure in Minecraft is like saying you farmed five hundred thousand Goombas on world 1-1 for coins in Mario. I don't really know what else to say but Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me. I guess I prefer to focus on structure rather than the legitimacy of material acquisition. It doesn't give me any greater sense of accomplishment having spent tons of time tok-tok-tokking away for easy-to-acquire materials. It's not as if you're going to use it to repel an orcish horde.

But, the real question is... Did you have fun?  If so who cares about if its useful or not.  I had a day off and need something to do.  poof I've got 2 completely useless structures, but I had fun. 

Naturn wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Saying you mined all the raw material for a megastructure in Minecraft is like saying you farmed five hundred thousand Goombas on world 1-1 for coins in Mario. I don't really know what else to say but Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me. I guess I prefer to focus on structure rather than the legitimacy of material acquisition. It doesn't give me any greater sense of accomplishment having spent tons of time tok-tok-tokking away for easy-to-acquire materials. It's not as if you're going to use it to repel an orcish horde.

But, the real question is... Did you have fun?  If so who cares about if its useful or not.  I had a day off and need something to do.  poof I've got 2 completely useless structures, but I had fun. 

I love building completely useless structures too, just look at creative.minecraft. What I don't like is being asked if I mined for everything or not. I don't see the reason why it's such an issue with some builders, or why it needs clarified.

e: To clarify, if you needed more than a simple box to hide from creepers overnight, I'd place more gameplay value into farming for iron as opposed to building a fortress straight away.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Naturn wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Saying you mined all the raw material for a megastructure in Minecraft is like saying you farmed five hundred thousand Goombas on world 1-1 for coins in Mario. I don't really know what else to say but Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me. I guess I prefer to focus on structure rather than the legitimacy of material acquisition. It doesn't give me any greater sense of accomplishment having spent tons of time tok-tok-tokking away for easy-to-acquire materials. It's not as if you're going to use it to repel an orcish horde.

But, the real question is... Did you have fun?  If so who cares about if its useful or not.  I had a day off and need something to do.  poof I've got 2 completely useless structures, but I had fun. 

I love building completely useless structures too, just look at creative.minecraft. What I don't like is being asked if I mined for everything or not. I don't see the reason why it's such an issue with some builders, or why it needs clarified.

e: To clarify, if you needed more than a simple box to hide from creepers overnight, I'd place more gameplay value into farming for iron as opposed to building a fortress straight away.

The point I was trying to make is that I find it more fun and satisfying to mine than to use the give command.  I think its more impressive that way versus just giving stuff out.  I'm not saying that people don't create good stuff with the give command, but its not to my liking to do that when the game is called Minecraft.  But, people will play how they like it.

Edit: Grammar and probably still missed some.

Last edited by Naturn (2011-04-09 22:34:00)

@Naturn Fair enough, but in my view, spending hours of effortless mining that you could have resolved in a couple of commands doesn't do anything to make a Minecraft structure any more appealing.

@mutant No. The analogy works. Chopping cobblestone is as equally monotonous as replaying 1-1 over and over again for coins and extra lives. If I want to stack lives, I'll do the turtle shell trick. If I want to build huge structures for purposes beyond survival Minecraft, I'll just 'give' myself the materials.



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Mining should be made a bit more interesting. I would like to see things like cave-ins be harder to escape from and dirt ceilings to collapse when left 'unsupported' by stone or wood-type blocks in a space that exceeds 5x5.