I've known plenty unfortunately. Arrogance and religion do not mix well.Stingray24 wrote:
Wow, where do these Christians who cannot sin live? I want to be there when they turn water to wine.
They can sin, but if they ask for forgiveness the sin goes awayDilbert_X wrote:
What I've noticed with many Christians is they do whatever they like, and rationalise it by saying 'I'm a Christian, Christians cannot sin, therefore whatever I choose to do is right', and I know Christians who have done some shocking things.
A kind of cosmic get-out-of-jail-free card - except you can reuse this one.JohnG@lt wrote:
They can sin, but if they ask for forgiveness the sin goes awayDilbert_X wrote:
What I've noticed with many Christians is they do whatever they like, and rationalise it by saying 'I'm a Christian, Christians cannot sin, therefore whatever I choose to do is right', and I know Christians who have done some shocking things.
Thats only Catholics, who aren't really Christian.JohnG@lt wrote:
They can sin, but if they ask for forgiveness the sin goes awayDilbert_X wrote:
What I've noticed with many Christians is they do whatever they like, and rationalise it by saying 'I'm a Christian, Christians cannot sin, therefore whatever I choose to do is right', and I know Christians who have done some shocking things.
I would agree, but few people of any religious or nonreligious persuasion know much beyond that regarding religion.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
'Knowing' about religion is a lot more than memorizing stupid factoids you learn in the first few years of sunday school.
Of course it's plausible. The Jesus we know could even be the combined experiences of several men. Would it matter ? The message is what people want to spread not proof. that's why they use the word Faith.-Sh1fty- wrote:
If you read the Bible, it's very logical. The Earth is 6000 to 10,000 years old, not 5000.
On a side note, dinosaurs might have still existed in somewhat large numbers up until about 100-300 years ago. Those surviving being quite small, and in areas with few humans, such as dense jungles. It's a theory but I see it being quite plausible.
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What part of the post you quoted is plausible exactly?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Of course it's plausible. The Jesus we know could even be the combined experiences of several men. Would it matter ? The message is what people want to spread not proof. that's why they use the word Faith.-Sh1fty- wrote:
If you read the Bible, it's very logical. The Earth is 6000 to 10,000 years old, not 5000.
On a side note, dinosaurs might have still existed in somewhat large numbers up until about 100-300 years ago. Those surviving being quite small, and in areas with few humans, such as dense jungles. It's a theory but I see it being quite plausible.
When I read the bible or rather had it read to me as a tyke I didn't think
" wow Noah put every last worm chipmunk rat snake cheetah melnant neigh neigh mule cow deer and rhinoceros on a huge barge "
I figured he took the animals that were important to him, thought " thank god all the rats and cobras are toast ha ha ha ! Let the rain begin ! I hope this thing floats ? "
The bible stories are supposed to make you think and reflect and alter your out look and actions. Like the children's story
" The Rock in The road " were the liberals dig the hole deeper and set up the trap so everyone will have " Equality of Out Come ", Then the Conservative comes by and fixes the road to promote commerce.
I never really thought some one interviewed the good Samaritan and got it all down on paper just right. I got the message even if I didn't buy the Walking on water part. May Jesus was the David Blaine of his time?
I used to tell my ex wife that.Dilbert_X wrote:
Thats only Catholics, who aren't really Christian.JohnG@lt wrote:
They can sin, but if they ask for forgiveness the sin goes awayDilbert_X wrote:
What I've noticed with many Christians is they do whatever they like, and rationalise it by saying 'I'm a Christian, Christians cannot sin, therefore whatever I choose to do is right', and I know Christians who have done some shocking things.
. . . that Dinosaurs existed . . .jord wrote:
What part of the post you quoted is plausible exactly?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Of course it's plausible. The Jesus we know could even be the combined experiences of several men. Would it matter ? The message is what people want to spread not proof. that's why they use the word Faith.-Sh1fty- wrote:
If you read the Bible, it's very logical. The Earth is 6000 to 10,000 years old, not 5000.
On a side note, dinosaurs might have still existed in somewhat large numbers up until about 100-300 years ago. Those surviving being quite small, and in areas with few humans, such as dense jungles. It's a theory but I see it being quite plausible.
When I read the bible or rather had it read to me as a tyke I didn't think
" wow Noah put every last worm chipmunk rat snake cheetah melnant neigh neigh mule cow deer and rhinoceros on a huge barge "
I figured he took the animals that were important to him, thought " thank god all the rats and cobras are toast ha ha ha ! Let the rain begin ! I hope this thing floats ? "
The bible stories are supposed to make you think and reflect and alter your out look and actions. Like the children's story
" The Rock in The road " were the liberals dig the hole deeper and set up the trap so everyone will have " Equality of Out Come ", Then the Conservative comes by and fixes the road to promote commerce.
I never really thought some one interviewed the good Samaritan and got it all down on paper just right. I got the message even if I didn't buy the Walking on water part. May Jesus was the David Blaine of his time?
Always difficult to tell but I think he was being somewhat sarcastic?jord wrote:
What part of the post you quoted is plausible exactly?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Of course it's plausible. The Jesus we know could even be the combined experiences of several men. Would it matter ? The message is what people want to spread not proof. that's why they use the word Faith.-Sh1fty- wrote:
If you read the Bible, it's very logical. The Earth is 6000 to 10,000 years old, not 5000.
On a side note, dinosaurs might have still existed in somewhat large numbers up until about 100-300 years ago. Those surviving being quite small, and in areas with few humans, such as dense jungles. It's a theory but I see it being quite plausible.
When I read the bible or rather had it read to me as a tyke I didn't think
" wow Noah put every last worm chipmunk rat snake cheetah melnant neigh neigh mule cow deer and rhinoceros on a huge barge "
I figured he took the animals that were important to him, thought " thank god all the rats and cobras are toast ha ha ha ! Let the rain begin ! I hope this thing floats ? "
The bible stories are supposed to make you think and reflect and alter your out look and actions. Like the children's story
" The Rock in The road " were the liberals dig the hole deeper and set up the trap so everyone will have " Equality of Out Come ", Then the Conservative comes by and fixes the road to promote commerce.
I never really thought some one interviewed the good Samaritan and got it all down on paper just right. I got the message even if I didn't buy the Walking on water part. May Jesus was the David Blaine of his time?
No he said the Earth is a few thousand years old and that somehow dinosaurs existed up until a few hundred years ago. So which do you agree with?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
. . . that Dinosaurs existed . . .jord wrote:
What part of the post you quoted is plausible exactly?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Of course it's plausible. The Jesus we know could even be the combined experiences of several men. Would it matter ? The message is what people want to spread not proof. that's why they use the word Faith.
When I read the bible or rather had it read to me as a tyke I didn't think
" wow Noah put every last worm chipmunk rat snake cheetah melnant neigh neigh mule cow deer and rhinoceros on a huge barge "
I figured he took the animals that were important to him, thought " thank god all the rats and cobras are toast ha ha ha ! Let the rain begin ! I hope this thing floats ? "
The bible stories are supposed to make you think and reflect and alter your out look and actions. Like the children's story
" The Rock in The road " were the liberals dig the hole deeper and set up the trap so everyone will have " Equality of Out Come ", Then the Conservative comes by and fixes the road to promote commerce.
I never really thought some one interviewed the good Samaritan and got it all down on paper just right. I got the message even if I didn't buy the Walking on water part. May Jesus was the David Blaine of his time?
Well spoken,KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
This is what passes as serious talk around here now, huh? More like an atheist circle-jerk.
No, non-believers know more random facts about the bible/Judeo-Christian storylines than believers. And Europeans can name more states than Americans. Whatever. 'Knowing' about religion is a lot more than memorizing stupid factoids you learn in the first few years of sunday school.
No one knows how old the Earth is or can even claim to but I guarantee its older than that. I am quite sure he means to sayjord wrote:
No he said the Earth is a few thousand years old and that somehow dinosaurs existed up until a few hundred years ago. So which do you agree with?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
. . . that Dinosaurs existed . . .jord wrote:
What part of the post you quoted is plausible exactly?
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It's a matter of evidence. Occam's Razor should continually be applied to all explanations.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
No one knows how old the Earth is or can even claim to but I guarantee its older than that. I am quite sure he means to sayjord wrote:
No he said the Earth is a few thousand years old and that somehow dinosaurs existed up until a few hundred years ago. So which do you agree with?Hunter/Jumper wrote:
. . . that Dinosaurs existed . . .
" an inhabitable earth as we know it. " Not some orb of molten rock. I am not out to trip him up using " Geometric Logic " !
It is possible about dinosaurs - they may yet find one. I doubt it, but it could happen, Maybe you didn't consider that it could be a deep ocean dwelling spices ? Didn't some guy in South American have an un-Identifiable hide they thought to be from an extinct species from the jurasic period.
I think by knowing you mean have faith. If so then you're right, Atheists will never beat believers on that.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
This is what passes as serious talk around here now, huh? More like an atheist circle-jerk.
No, non-believers know more random facts about the bible/Judeo-Christian storylines than believers. And Europeans can name more states than Americans. Whatever. 'Knowing' about religion is a lot more than memorizing stupid factoids you learn in the first few years of sunday school.
4.55 billion years old, give or take a bit.eleven bravo wrote:
the earth is 5 billion years old
But Scientology claims Ming the Merciless brought us here in galatic DC-8's 35 billion years ago!jord wrote:
4.55 billion years old, give or take a bit.eleven bravo wrote:
the earth is 5 billion years old
The oldest rocks on earth are like 3.8 billion years old, which debunks any moronic creationism theories. Though I think shifty was trolling... perhaps
